Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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clarksvol00 said:
Why are they weird questions? I'll wait.

Edit: why is the basis for my opinion relevant to your answer? I'll wait.
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Because you’re asking me to prove a negative. You’re making an unfounded statement about a man. I can’t disprove something that doesn’t exist. So it’s up to you to prove your claim.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Because you’re asking me to prove a negative. You’re making an unfounded statement about a man. I can’t disprove something that doesn’t exist. So it’s up to you to prove your claim.
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I'm not asking you to prove or disprove anything. I offered my opinion and I'm asking your opinion. If you don't want to respond with your opinion, that's fine.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Please define "it." I'm not trying to be a jerk. I just don't know if you're talking about Mike Pence's moral views, LGBTQ views, both, or something else.
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I am saying each side finds "it"..ie both, offensive. Same with DEI..one can learn that stuff in secondary education if one wants. No place for it in primary education, especially in light of student scores on the fundamentals.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I am saying each side finds "it"..ie both, offensive. Same with DEI..one can learn that stuff in secondary education if one wants. No place for it in primary education, especially in light of student scores on the fundamentals.
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I agree that younger students should be focusing on fundamental skills. Reading, writing, math, what we called social studies back in the day. Do you think the Mike Pence morality issues or LGBT stuff is getting a significant amount of attention in education of our children? I know/am related to multiple educators in different locations and grade levels and none of them get into this stuff.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
AI generated voices? Really? @Jxn Vol @davethevol the nazi rocket scientists are at it again.
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If your not familiar with it...here is a video... obviously the voice are fake and generated because I doubt Trump, Biden and Obama play games together...but AI fakes are very convincing... so unless that tape has witness collaboration I don't know if it'll have the impact or use they believe

 
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whodeycin85 said:
If your not familiar with it...here is a video... obviously the voice are fake and generated because I doubt Trump, Biden and Obama play games together...but AI fakes are very convincing... so unless that tape has witness collaboration I don't know if it'll have the impact or use they believe

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Has Trump denied the authenticity of the tape? Is there reason to believe it is fake other than the fact that it is damaging? Is there the potential that experts could testify as to whether the tape is fake or not with or without corroboration? Is there a reason to believe that the person who made the tape could or would not testify as to its authenticity? Are nazi rocket scientists trying to frame Trump? @Jxn Vol .
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I'm not asking you to prove or disprove anything. I offered my opinion and I'm asking your opinion. If you don't want to respond with your opinion, that's fine.
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I can’t give an opinion on something that is baseless. Do you have any reasons you’d like to explain for your claim? If not, it’s just baseless nonsense that should be mocked
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Has Trump denied the authenticity of the tape? Is there reason to believe it is fake other than the fact that it is damaging? Is there the potential that experts could testify as to whether the tape is fake or not with or without corroboration? Is there a reason to believe that the person who made the tape could or would not testify as to its authenticity? Are nazi rocket scientists trying to frame Trump? @Jxn Vol .
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I haven't read on any collaborating witnesses nor have I read a Trump response....smart money would be to challenge it in court...have a professional fake made and play it in court to invalidate the prosecution's audio. Some are indistinguishable from real...as of now there is now reason to believe either way other then Trump is an ego maniac who would say something like this for "clout" wether what he was saying is true or not...but if the prosecutor is basing his case on this and weak precedent , Trump will walk..
 
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Vol8188 said:
I can’t give an opinion on something that is baseless. Do you have any reasons you’d like to explain for your claim? If not, it’s just baseless nonsense that should be mocked
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You could just say you don't think Mike Pence wants to impose a puritanical morality on the country if elected. Like i said, if you don't have an opinion, that's fine.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I haven't read on any collaborating witnesses nor have I read a Trump response....smart money would be to challenge it in court...have a professional fake made and play it in court to invalidate the prosecution's audio. Some are indistinguishable from real...as of now there is now reason to believe either way other then Trump is an ego maniac who would say something like this for "clout" wether what he was saying is true or not...but if the prosecutor is basing his case on this and weak precedent , Trump will walk..
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I'm sure you're a bright person, but I don't have any reason to believe that your legal conclusions are based on anything other than your personal opinions. If Trump is saying things for "clout" purposes, he should probably think about the consequences before he says things that give him "clout," but could also be admissions of criminal activity.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I'm sure you're a bright person, but I don't have any reason to believe that your legal conclusions are based on anything other than your personal opinions. If Trump is saying things for "clout" purposes, he should probably think about the consequences before he says things that give him "clout," but potentially are admissions of criminal activity.
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Your absolutely agree...if he said that, which I'm sure he did personally, he is an idiot and ego maniac...from a legal standpoint if that is the "smoking gun" so to speak without collaborating evidence/witness. It's a weak case come across as even more political and make a martyr out Trump, if he wins.... personally I hope he doesn't run..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Your absolutely agree...if he said that, which I'm sure he did personally, he is an idiot and ego maniac...from a legal standpoint if that is the "smoking gun" so to speak without collaborating evidence/witness. It's a weak case come across as even more political and make a martyr out Trump, if he wins.... personally I hope he doesn't run..
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I don't think either of us, or anybody else on this thread, knows enough about the evidence to know if it's a weak or strong case. I think all this is more speculative than anyone wants to admit.
 
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OrangeBoro said:
Biden is the sitting president y’all just choose to ignore his crimes and focus all your energy on Trump. That’s a choice you all make. I will continue to focus on the Biden crime family. I hope if we get a R in the WH they pardon Trump on a fake charges
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Again, if the evidence is so obvious and overwhelming that Biden is some criminal mastermind, while simultaneously being a feeble minded dementia patient, then go ahead and put your cards on the table. You guys have been parroting this for years, and yet Biden walks a free man. So is it incompetence on the part of conservatives? You had a R in the White House and both the house and senate for 2 years and yet Hillary walks free. Incompetence again? How’s that committee going that was looking into this? Is the super secret and totally real informant going to come forward? Im beginning to lose faith in you guys if you can’t prosecute an open and shut case.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
You could just say you don't think Mike Pence wants to impose a puritanical morality on the country if elected. Like i said, if you don't have an opinion, that's fine.
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What is your opinion based in? Can you point me to anything or is it just baseless nonsense
 
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The evidence against the gangster seems quite strong. If he gets off, it will be because he gets an OJ-like jury in florida that decides to ignore
the evidence. The judge was appointed by trump and has apparent trump sympathies: She made two earlier rulings in the documents case that were favorable to the gangster, one of which was quickly overturned by an appeals court. The government will have to show that many of the documents indeed contained highly sensitive information of importance to national security. In that way they can preclude any imbeciles on the jury simply concluding that the gangster used to be president, I know who he is, the documents are abstract to me, and so I will acquit him. You get one MAGA moron on the jury and the state can lose the case.
 
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