Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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lawgator1 said:
As more and more slowly comes out, this is looking far worse for Trump:

1) Agents had to seize archive documents as far back as June, and order that others be sequestered and held there;

2) Informants tell them that there are still classified documents there, causing enough alarm that the DOJ has to seek a search warrant to get them;

3) Search warrant was only option because of fear that Trump or his agents would destroy the documents;

4) Trump has, and could easily release, but for some reason will not release, the warrant itself;

5) A judge had to sign off on the warrant application.


We are rapidly getting to a point where it is clear that Trump took those documents from the WH for the very purposes of hiding them from someone, the feds gave him every opportunity to give them back and he did not, and enough information came out that it became clear that the documents are at risk if left in Trump's hands.

Sorry Trumpsers, but this reeks of disaster for Trump.
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Why don’t we go back and look at all the threads you libtards have created in which you take circumstantial evidence, quotes from a lying media, and put your personal spin on it to conclude “Trumps in trouble”. And nothing ever happens.

Sorry LG. Trumps gonna be elected President in 2024. Deal with it!
 
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lawgator1 said:
As more and more slowly comes out, this is looking far worse for Trump:

1) Agents had to seize archive documents as far back as June, and order that others be sequestered and held there;

2) Informants tell them that there are still classified documents there, causing enough alarm that the DOJ has to seek a search warrant to get them;

3) Search warrant was only option because of fear that Trump or his agents would destroy the documents;

4) Trump has, and could easily release, but for some reason will not release, the warrant itself;

5) A judge had to sign off on the warrant application.


We are rapidly getting to a point where it is clear that Trump took those documents from the WH for the very purposes of hiding them from someone, the feds gave him every opportunity to give them back and he did not, and enough information came out that it became clear that the documents are at risk if left in Trump's hands.

Sorry Trumpsers, but this reeks of disaster for Trump.
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And yet another LG prognostication...IOW..Trump will be vindicated.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Why don’t we go back and look at all the threads you libtards have created in which you take circumstantial evidence, quotes from a lying media, and put your personal spin on it to conclude “Trumps in trouble”. And nothing ever happens.

Sorry LG. Trumps gonna be elected President in 2024. Deal with it!
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hog88 said:
And if the warrant and affidavit is sealed wouldn’t Trumps lawyers be barred from releasing it just as the DOJ is?
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A legal analyst on CNN said that Trump can release the warrant ant receipt if he wants. He can also go to court and argue that they remain sealed. Looks like the ball is in Trump's court.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What source(s) of information have you formed this opinion of mail-in voting from? It is wholly inaccurate on multiple fronts. I'm going to post one video, and four links to non-news media sources, which I will also label. These sources of information should alleviate your concerns if you take the time to watch the video, and read through the provided sourced-material.





^^^^ County Seat (Utah) ^^^^


Is Voting by Mail Safe and Reliable? We Asked State and Local Elections Officials | Bipartisan Policy Center

^^^^ Bi-Partisan Policy Center ^^^^


Table 14: How States Verify Voted Absentee/Mail Ballots

^^^^ National Conference of State Legislatures ^^^^


How does vote-by-mail work and does it increase election fraud?

^^^^ Brookings ^^^^


Mail-in Ballots Are Secure, Confidential, and Trustworthy

^^^^ Columbia University ^^^^
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@volgr ,

I haven't seen those examples... and even if I had, I have provided more sources than you (see the post above) have which make the case for voting by mail being "secure, confidential and trustworthy" - those are the word of Columbia University - not mine.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
A legal analyst on CNN said that Trump can release the warrant ant receipt if he wants. He can also go to court and argue that they remain sealed. Looks like the ball is in Trump's court.
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I thought something sealed means neither side can make it public.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Why don’t we go back and look at all the threads you libtards have created in which you take circumstantial evidence, quotes from a lying media, and put your personal spin on it to conclude “Trumps in trouble”. And nothing ever happens.

Sorry LG. Trumps gonna be elected President in 2024. Deal with it!
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I fear you are right.

If the concept of justice had any say in the matter, his odds of being behind bars should be higher than his odds of being POTUS come January 2025.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As more and more slowly comes out, this is looking far worse for Trump:

1) Agents had to seize archive documents as far back as June, and order that others be sequestered and held there;

2) Informants tell them that there are still classified documents there, causing enough alarm that the DOJ has to seek a search warrant to get them;

3) Search warrant was only option because of fear that Trump or his agents would destroy the documents;

4) Trump has, and could easily release, but for some reason will not release, the warrant itself;

5) A judge had to sign off on the warrant application.


We are rapidly getting to a point where it is clear that Trump took those documents from the WH for the very purposes of hiding them from someone, the feds gave him every opportunity to give them back and he did not, and enough information came out that it became clear that the documents are at risk if left in Trump's hands.

Sorry Trumpsers, but this reeks of disaster for Trump.
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... and it looks more and more, like Trump didn't fully comply with a subpoena for specific documents that he was in possession of at Mar-a-Lago. Why didn't he just hand them over? It seems like this whole thing was easily avoided. Trump is not a victim here. He was either too lazy to look for the documents that had been subpoenaed, or he was hiding something that he didn't want either the National Archives or the Department of Justice to be in possession of.
 
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VolStrom said:
What is the receipt going to say, 12 boxes of stuff and Melania underwear?
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The warrant should reveal the potential criminal charge. Trump doesn't want to talk about that, though does he?


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BowlBrother85 said:
... and it looks more and more, like Trump didn't fully comply with a subpoena for specific documents that he was in possession of at Mar-a-Lago. Why didn't he just hand them over? It seems like this whole thing was easily avoided. Trump is not a victim here. He was either too lazy to look for the documents that had been subpoenaed, or he was hiding something that he didn't want either the National Archives or the Department of Justice to be in possession of.
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And no one from the right side of the board has ever answered the question of why he would take and/or keep the boxes of documents in the first place?

The law could not be clearer, the documents belong to the country and are to be archived. 15 boxes?


Why?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I fear you are right.

If the concept of justice had any say in the matter, his odds of being behind bars should be higher than his odds of being POTUS come January 2025.
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If so, his cellmate should be Biden (the big guy one) with the crack head in the next cell.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
@volgr ,

I haven't seen those examples... and even if I had, I have provided more sources than you (see the post above) have which make the case for voting by mail being "secure, confidential and trustworthy" - those are the word of Columbia University - not mine.
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This is from one your links
According to the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University, there is no evidence that mail balloting increases electoral fraud as there are several anti-fraud protections built into the process designed to make it difficult to impersonate voters or steal ballots. These provisions include requiring people requesting absentee ballots to be registered voters, mailing ballots to the official address listed on voter registration rolls, requiring voter signatures on the external envelope, and having election authorities make sure the ballot came from the address of an actual voter. If a ballot appears questionable, some states use a signature matching technique to verify the signature of the voter.
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For one, we know the first sentence is incorrect, as I have already shown.

Secondly, the assumed provisions that make mail in balloting "secure", weren't followed in every State. Hell, I would say most States. Again, those that aren't familiar with mass mail-in balloting did a poor job of administering them. Why do we know this? Because there is proof ballots were mailed out without being requested, they were mailed out multiple times in a lot of cases, they were mailed out to people who no longer lived at said residence, we know ballots were not signature verified and those that were had a very low standard to meet, we know voter rolls were dirty, we know drop boxes were used so there was no check on making sure ballots came from the proper address.

Just admit you were wrong. Which you are.
 
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lawgator1 said:
And no one from the right side of the board has ever answered the question of why he would take and/or keep the boxes of documents in the first place?

The law could not be clearer, the documents belong to the country and are to be archived. 15 boxes?


Why?
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If only this DOJ or the corrupt FBI could ever demonstrate that they tell the truth, maybe you would get an answer.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Why after all this time has nothing been found? It’s not for lack of effort. There’s still people now looking for it, and shockingly it’s been mostly Republican voters that have been guilty of any kind of voter fraud.
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The dead Democratic voters of Chicago say "Hi!"
 
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lawgator1 said:
And no one from the right side of the board has ever answered the question of why he would take and/or keep the boxes of documents in the first place?

The law could not be clearer, the documents belong to the country and are to be archived. 15 boxes?


Why?
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Obviously, he took the items to sell to Russia and China. We all know that the economy sucks, so it took longer than a year and a half to "move the merchandise" since he still has those napkins and dinner menu's.
 
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lawgator1 said:
And no one from the right side of the board has ever answered the question of why he would take and/or keep the boxes of documents in the first place?

The law could not be clearer, the documents belong to the country and are to be archived. 15 boxes?


Why?
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No one on this board knows the contents. It's not reasonable to demand any side to speculate why he took them.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Why don’t we go back and look at all the threads you libtards have created in which you take circumstantial evidence, quotes from a lying media, and put your personal spin on it to conclude “Trumps in trouble”. And nothing ever happens.

Sorry LG. Trumps gonna be elected President in 2024. Deal with it!
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LOL.

I really do hope that Trump is the Republican Party nominee again. Just as was the case in 2020, he is the only candidate that the Democrats could even hope to beat. With Trump on the ballot, the focus of the entire campaign changes. Instead of the 2024 presidential election campaign being about inflation, it would be about Trump's illicit conduct. It gives the Democrats a deflection point that they wouldn't have with Ron DeSantis. If you don't think Trump could lose again ... you are kidding yourself.

If Republicans are smart, they will nominate DeSantis, he brings all of the same policies to the table as Trump, but none of the baggage.
 
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