Ferguson Riots

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lawgator1 said:
Again, the location of the shell casings should make if fairly clear. Unless you think someone picked them up off the street out front, then carried them and dropped them 100 yards away.

I really think if will turn out that this was much closer than press stories.
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I believe the charges indicate that the guy shot from a vehicle so how about those casing locations now?

Jeffrey Williams was arrested late Saturday, and he has been charged with two counts of first-degree assault, a count of firing a weapon from a vehicle and three counts of armed criminal activity, St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch said at a news conference in Clayton.
 
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120 yards is no big deal, don't know what the fuss is about. I once fired at a target 600 yards away and missed, but I hit something. Just like this guy did.
 
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AirVol said:
120 yards is no big deal, don't know what the fuss is about. I once fired at a target 600 yards away and missed, but I hit something. Just like this guy did.
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I was thinking that two. It makes sense that this wasn't his intended target. But he has to hit something.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, he accidentally hit two cops...
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Not saying he wasn't aiming at a particular cop, just saying he may have had an angle where he shot that he would hit one. As for aiming at the head, I doubt he was, I'd bet a hundo he couldn't do it again.
 
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AirVol said:
Not saying he wasn't aiming at a particular cop, just saying he may have had an angle where he shot that he would hit one. As for aiming at the head, I doubt he was, I'd bet a hundo he couldn't do it again.
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I'm just saying the likelihood of hitting one random person is pretty low.

Hitting two?

I kind of agree with LG to an extent.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm just saying the likelihood of hitting one random person is pretty low.

Hitting two?

I kind of agree with LG to an extent.
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In a crowd? If you fire into a crowd, the chances of hitting someone are far greater than the chances of hitting no one (depending on the density of the crowd, and there seemed to be a lot of people there).
 
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Vol8188 said:
In a crowd? If you fire into a crowd, the chances of hitting someone are far greater than the chances of hitting no one (depending on the density of the crowd, and there seemed to be a lot of people there).
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So random shots fired towards a crowd just happened to hit nobody except the police?

You are pretty much proving the point.
 
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Grand Vol said:
So random shots fired towards a crowd just happened to hit nobody except the police?

You are pretty much proving the point.
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I'm sure the police were most likely standing behind the crowd correct? So if your shot misses the person in the crowd, it would be very likely to hit something behind the crowd.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'm sure the police were most likely standing behind the crowd correct? So if your shot misses the person in the crowd, it would be very likely to hit something behind the crowd.
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Very likely to hit something, not very likely to hit two cops you were not aiming at.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'm sure the police were most likely standing behind the crowd correct? So if your shot misses the person in the crowd, it would be very likely to hit something behind the crowd.
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Did you see the size of the crowd at the police station?

And furthermore, the story the perp allegedly told was he was firing from a vehicle.

You can argue all day long. But go ahead and give me the statistical probabilities of firing two shots, missing the target both times and hitting two other completely random people.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Did you see the size of the crowd at the police station?

And furthermore, the story the perp allegedly told was he was firing from a vehicle.

You can argue all day long. But go ahead and give me the statistical probabilities of firing two shots, missing the target both times and hitting two other completely random people.
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About tree fiddy to 1.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Did you see the size of the crowd at the police station?

And furthermore, the story the perp allegedly told was he was firing from a vehicle.

You can argue all day long. But go ahead and give me the statistical probabilities of firing two shots, missing the target both times and hitting two other completely random people.
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From 120 yards? Those odds are probably around 90% depending on the experience of the shooter.
 
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allvol123 said:
Very likely to hit something, not very likely to hit two cops you were not aiming at.
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Why not? The cops were standing in between the crowd and the building correct? So if you miss the person in the crowd, the bullet will most likely hit something behind them.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Why not? The cops were standing in between the crowd and the building correct? So if you miss the person in the crowd, the bullet will most likely hit something behind them.
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In the head, at 120 yards, with a pistol?

I bet that bullet had to drop 12-18"s. (Grandvol will know)

I'm still in shock it wasn't a rifle.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Why not? The cops were standing in between the crowd and the building correct? So if you miss the person in the crowd, the bullet will most likely hit something behind them.
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This is just delusional. Yes, it will definitely hit something. Great observation. It is not likely two random shots hit cops.
 
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Obsessed said:
In the head, at 120 yards, with a pistol?

I bet that bullet had to drop 12-18"s. (Grandvol will know)

I'm still in shock it wasn't a rifle.
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If you shoot from a car, there's a good chance you have a slight upward angle, which would make up for any drop in the bullet over that distance.
 
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allvol123 said:
This is just delusional. Yes, it will definitely hit something. Great observation. It is not likely two random shots hit cops.
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If the cops are behind the target and the target is missed (which it's highly likely to be a miss from that distance), then yes it would be likely to hit a cop.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If the cops are behind the target and the target is missed (which it's highly likely to be a miss from that distance), then yes it would be likely to hit a cop.
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At this point, I am arguing with a person that does not comprehend the term "likely."

Thus, this is useless.
 
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allvol123 said:
At this point, I am arguing with a person that does not comprehend the term "likely."

Thus, this is useless.
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How do I not understand the term likely. There's a line of cops in front of a building. Bullet misses intended target in the crowd. Therefore it will likely hit something behind the target....such as the cops.
 
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