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Worst thing for us was Bredesen appointing left wing political hacks to the UTBOT who then rerouted the UTAD'S surplus to fund ridiculous garbage academic programs that would otherwise have fallen victim to budget cuts. That was the money that would've gotten us A list coaches for the two premiere men's sports. You think Bama, AU, UF, LSU, or even UGA would stand for that? We got hosed and the same people are still calling shots.

How dare those trustees for an educational institution fund academics. What are they thinking!!?!? And btw all of those schools save LSU and UA are regarded higher academically than UT so apparently they could stand for that.
 
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Worst thing for us was Bredesen appointing left wing political hacks to the UTBOT who then rerouted the UTAD'S surplus to fund ridiculous garbage academic programs that would otherwise have fallen victim to budget cuts. That was the money that would've gotten us A list coaches for the two premiere men's sports. You think Bama, AU, UF, LSU, or even UGA would stand for that? We got hosed and the same people are still calling shots.

Completely false.
 
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We've been down for the better part of a decade and it's been over a decade since we were any kind of contender. Ask a long time Ole Miss fan how long a once powerhouse program has to be mired in a cycle of turmoil and unsuccessful rebuilds before they have to just admit that they're a bottom feeder. We're a lot closer to bottom feeder than contender these days with nothing but one good recruiting class to pin our hopes of resurgence on.
:rolleyes:
 

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We've been down for the better part of a decade and it's been over a decade since we were any kind of contender. Ask a long time Ole Miss fan how long a once powerhouse program has to be mired in a cycle of turmoil and unsuccessful rebuilds before they have to just admit that they're a bottom feeder. We're a lot closer to bottom feeder than contender these days with nothing but one good recruiting class to pin our hopes of resurgence on.

This sounds right, but I have to blame the 3-day Hamilton shopping spree for prolonging the retardation of the program.
 
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This site appears to be predominately right wing, kinda weird for a football message board. :question:
McWhorter didn't appoint those sort of people to the BOT because he was from here and understood the concept of the football program being the front porch of the university's metaphorical house. Bredesen was not from here, probably didn't give a rat's behind about Vol football, and made appointments that pleased a component of his political base that was important for winning primaries. That was where the worm really started to turn. If me or mine taught a course in the social interactions of medieval lesbian sheep grazing on the banks of the Firth of Forth then I'd be 100% behind looting the AD to fund my position. The other 99.999% of us have a right to be indignant about what's been permitted to happen up there.
 
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McWhorter didn't appoint those sort of people to the BOT because he was from here and understood the concept of the football program being the front porch of the university's metaphorical house. Bredesen was not from here, probably didn't give a rat's behind about Vol football, and made appointments that pleased a component of his political base that was important for winning primaries. That was where the worm really started to turn. If me or mine taught a course in the social interactions of medieval lesbian sheep grazing on the banks of the Firth of Forth then I'd be 100% behind looting the AD to fund my position. The other 99.999% of us have a right to be indignant about what's been permitted to happen up there.

It had nothing to do with Fulmer, It had nothing to do with Fulmer
 

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McWhorter didn't appoint those sort of people to the BOT because he was from here and understood the concept of the football program being the front porch of the university's metaphorical house. Bredesen was not from here, probably didn't give a rat's behind about Vol football, and made appointments that pleased a component of his political base that was important for winning primaries. That was where the worm really started to turn. If me or mine taught a course in the social interactions of medieval lesbian sheep grazing on the banks of the Firth of Forth then I'd be 100% behind looting the AD to fund my position. The other 99.999% of us have a right to be indignant about what's been permitted to happen up there.

:eek:lol:
 
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McWhorter didn't appoint those sort of people to the BOT because he was from here and understood the concept of the football program being the front porch of the university's metaphorical house. Bredesen was not from here, probably didn't give a rat's behind about Vol football, and made appointments that pleased a component of his political base that was important for winning primaries. That was where the worm really started to turn. If me or mine taught a course in the social interactions of medieval lesbian sheep grazing on the banks of the Firth of Forth then I'd be 100% behind looting the AD to fund my position. The other 99.999% of us have a right to be indignant about what's been permitted to happen up there.

This post has legs. And is GREAT
 
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Nearly everything in life seems to run in cycles. Football is no different. It took Bama years and years to emerge from Gene Stallings shadow. Florida is having a tough time since Urban Meyer left. UGA has had very talented teams that somehow always find a way to lose big games. LSU has been very consistent since 2000, but there were lean years in the 90's there as well. UT will be back sooner than later and I see absolutely no way how SEC expansion can be the worst thing to happen to UT. Sportswriters and commentators always need something to get people stirred up and this is "Fine-bum's" way of rattling up a fan base on a May weekday.

Don't compliment him.
 
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We've been down for the better part of a decade and it's been over a decade since we were any kind of contender. Ask a long time Ole Miss fan how long a once powerhouse program has to be mired in a cycle of turmoil and unsuccessful rebuilds before they have to just admit that they're a bottom feeder. We're a lot closer to bottom feeder than contender these days with nothing but one good recruiting class to pin our hopes of resurgence on.

As much as I hate to admit your right, your really really close on this one, unfortunately.....it is what it is
 
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Worst thing for us was Bredesen appointing left wing political hacks to the UTBOT who then rerouted the UTAD'S surplus to fund ridiculous garbage academic programs that would otherwise have fallen victim to budget cuts. That was the money that would've gotten us A list coaches for the two premiere men's sports. You think Bama, AU, UF, LSU, or even UGA would stand for that? We got hosed and the same people are still calling shots.

Change your ****ing logo if u want to say us talking About tn
 
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I get it...Even when the SEC was at its worst in the last 25 years, our best was only 2nd best. Opposing teams started getting better coaches and we got complacent.
 
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It will get there again.


Then again though, there is something to be said for how much it was pretty much just UT, UF...and everyone else was at least a tier or more below them in the 90s.

From '92 to to 2001 UT and UF were the kings of the eastern division and the only winners of the SEC East during that time frame.

As for the SEC West during those years, 6 different teams won that division, losing to the eventual eastern division champion 7 times.
 
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Don't know how to properly spell his name and that's beside the point. Coming back from my lunch hour he had a guest on and according to him Tn football will not be like it was in the 90's until the coaching of member SEC schools declines. Said the worst thing that could have happened to UT and USC was expansion of SEC.

The same can be said for other SEC institutions, such as Florida and Georgia for example.

Spurrier reigned over the SEC when the conference was half-full of mediocre coaches. The same can be said for Meyer during his tenure at Florida. Besides Saban, which opposing coaches were equal to what Meyer brought on game day?

While Georgia had a short reign at the top of the SEC East and the SEC as a whole, which coach had the ability to match up consistently with Richt during that same time?
 
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The same can be said for other SEC institutions, such as Florida and Georgia for example.

Spurrier reigned over the SEC when the conference was half-full of mediocre coaches. The same can be said for Meyer during his tenure at Florida. Besides Saban, which opposing coaches were equal to what Meyer brought on game day?

While Georgia had a short reign at the top of the SEC East and the SEC as a whole, which coach had the ability to match up consistently with Richt during that same time?[/QUOTE]

Really? I would say that Richt's 4 best teams at Georgia were '02, '03, '04 and '07... Ron Zook and Florida beat Georgia in '02 and '03 while Fulmer and Tennessee beat Georgia in '04 and (badly) in '07...
 
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How dare those trustees for an educational institution fund academics. What are they thinking!!?!? And btw all of those schools save LSU and UA are regarded higher academically than UT so apparently they could stand for that.

I'm fine with funding education, but I'm not fine with the pilfering of AD funds to do so. The UTAD has contributed a lot of funds to the University in the past at a time when the academic side wasn't killing the golden goose. I'm for increasing the academic prestige of the University, but you're acting as if it is the UTAD's fault that our academic reputation is low when in truth it has absolutely nothing to do with athletics. That blame rests solely on the university administrations and state governments of the past.
 
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Really? I would say that Richt's 4 best teams at Georgia were '02, '03, '04 and '07... Ron Zook and Florida beat Georgia in '02 and '03 while Fulmer and Tennessee beat Georgia in '04 and (badly) in '07..

The 2007 team wasn't really in mind when thinking about UGA's top teams, even though they did earn a BCS at-large bid to play in the Sugar Bowl. Also, Georgia won the SEC in 2005 also. I would consider that one of Richt's better teams as well.

At the time though, CPF's abilities were beginning to be questioned and had already reached the pinnacle of his career 3 years prior. As for Zook, well...even though there was no excuse for either of those losses, Georgia was still brainwashed at that point in the series going 0-fer forever against the Gators.

I do understand your points though. They are valid.
 
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Mark Richt is a mediocre coaching also ran never has never will get a UGA team into a NC game much less win one. He and UGA are the laughingstock of the entire SEC as what other coach in this conference, other than Vanderbilt, would be allowed to stay on the job >10 years without a NC? The answer is none .. other than Vandy .. heck even Ole Miss and Miss St fire guys who cant get it done ... not UGA, they love mediocre football and coaches. Name one SEC school scared to face a UGA team on a Saturday? Heck Vandy beat 'em at their homecoming just a year or two ago and we had 'em beat and they had Murray on the field for crying out loud. As a Vol fan in the SEC, heck I hope UGA keeps Richt forever, they'll be beatable as long as that clown is still there and without a real shot at an NC, just one we don't have to worry about ..
 
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GA under Richt should have won the SEc a couple of times since he took over! They've had the athletes as we all shoukd know because our pipeline from that state as well as other schools were cut when he took over!
 
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GA under Richt should have won the SEc a couple of times since he took over! They've had the athletes as we all shoukd know because our pipeline from that state as well as other schools were cut when he took over!

He did win it a couple of times. He won in 2002 and 2005.
 
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Mark Richt is a mediocre coaching also ran never has never will get a UGA team into a NC game much less win one. He and UGA are the laughingstock of the entire SEC as what other coach in this conference, other than Vanderbilt, would be allowed to stay on the job >10 years without a NC? The answer is none .. other than Vandy .. heck even Ole Miss and Miss St fire guys who cant get it done ... not UGA, they love mediocre football and coaches. Name one SEC school scared to face a UGA team on a Saturday? Heck Vandy beat 'em at their homecoming just a year or two ago and we had 'em beat and they had Murray on the field for crying out loud. As a Vol fan in the SEC, heck I hope UGA keeps Richt forever, they'll be beatable as long as that clown is still there and without a real shot at an NC, just one we don't have to worry about ..

Just curious, what's Richt's record versus Tennessee?
 
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