Fire Mike Hamilton (merged)

[jps2194]

Blame Tennessee's NCAA infractions on more than Bruce Pearl, Kiffin - Stewart Mandel - SI.com

I tend to agree with Mandel. Hamilton should be held accountable for the mess he has created. He is ultimately responsible for the compliance of both programs.

 

[Bobby720]

agree, the boss needs to be slapped too
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[kwebbvols2344]

Pat Forde on ESPN ripped Hamilton in his column, when it is all said and done I believe Hamilton needs to be fired.

 

[AJeray4TN]

So did Forde.

Tennessee Volunteers athletic director Mike Hamilton to blame for NCAA violations regarding Bruce Pearl, Lane Kiffin - ESPN

I'm certainly not defending Hamilton, but these national talking heads have about wore out the story on Pearl, were unsuccessful at napalming the football program in the national media, and are now just looking for their next juicy bone as it pertains to the "Big Orange Saga." They have turned their ire towards Hammy now. Sensationalist media doing their slimy jobs I suppose.
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[AstonRoyal]

This is a very well written article. Makes you think about who's really to blame for whats going on with our athletic department!
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[jps2194]

So did Forde.

Tennessee Volunteers athletic director Mike Hamilton to blame for NCAA violations regarding Bruce Pearl, Lane Kiffin - ESPN

I'm certainly not defending Hamilton, but these national talking heads have about wore out the story on Pearl, were unsuccessful at napalming the football program in the national media, and are now just looking for their next juicy bone as it pertains to the "Big Orange Saga." They have turned their ire towards Hammy now. Sensationalist media doing their slimy jobs I suppose.
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At the end of the day, somebody needs to be held responsible for two programs with violations. If it was just football or basketball, I would say it is an isolated incident. But if we have 2 programs, then clearly there is a leadership problem.

 

[thegasman54]

senationalism media...blah blah blah

 

[Plano Vol]

In most companies, you have to look at who the misbehavers work for when determining corrective action. I suppose Hammy is culpable under that rule. Maybe he does need to go.

I do take exception to little rabid Stewie indicting our university as the vilest of the vile. Pearl shouldn't have lied to the NCAA and that is cause for dismissal but aside from that, everything else appears to be some form of illegal contact. It makes it worse that there are multiple offenses but even so, in my opinion, it is a much lighter shade of gray than pay for play.

 

[AJeray4TN]

At the end of the day, somebody needs to be held responsible for two programs with violations. If it was just football or basketball, I would say it is an isolated incident. But if we have 2 programs, then clearly there is a leadership problem.

Perhaps, but that's not for Pat Forde to decide. Look, I get that he's doing his job, but that's all it is, his job. He is a glorified blogger that's annoyed that his prognostications about the downfall of UT football probably aren't going to come to fruition. He's latching on to the next sexy aspect of this story, Hamilton. I'm not even saying he is completely wrong, but whatever Hamilton's fate may be, I find the righteous indignation lobbed his way from these slimy "reporters" to be hilarious.
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[NEVolFan]

I don't think anyone could have controlled the James Gang when they were running the football program. This mess cannot bode well for Hammy long term....he will be a lucky guy to survive with his job.

 

[VegasVol]

Blackburn appears to have been working diligently to do his job; Hamilton, however, appears just the contrary.

1. Kiffin makes a series of secondary violations and brags to the press about drawing "attention" to Tennessee. Hamilton issues no penalty against him.

2. Reaves uses the hostesses to target recruits in improper contacts. This comes to Hammy's attention in early fall. Hamilton issues no penalty against him or Kiffin.

3. Kiffin is told not to take Rubio on trips. Days later, he does so. Hamilton issues no penalty against him.

4. Kiffin and crew are told not to make certain improper phone contacts. They do about as many in a week or two as Pearl & crew did in 6 months, and they do so while under NCAA inquiry, no less. Hammy issues no penalty against them.

5. Knowing all he knew about Kiffin, he admits he basically begged Kiffin to stay rather than go to USC. Not the sign of an AD who actually cared about compliance.

Then you have the additional context of Pearl, who Hammy knew lied, but kept him, didn't suspend him, and let recruit for weeks after the initial announcement, where Pearl committed another violation Hammy knew about. We are the ONLY program I know about to keep a coach we know the NCAA is going to level unethical charges of lying about.

Can Hammy, and we can make the sanctions bite even less.

 

[Ari Silverstein]

senationalism media...blah blah blah

opcorn:

 

[tvolsfan]

6. Not firing Fulmer earlier

 

[Nerwen Aldarion]

I've been saying for a while Hammilton needs to go. He can fundraise all he wants but he sure as heck can't monitor the Department.

 

[utgibbs]

6. Firing fulmer, hiring qiffin

fyp

 

[VolDad]

7. Giving Fulmer a raise and extension.

 

[zjcvols]

7. Giving Fulmer a raise and extension.

That was worse than not firing him after 2005 in my opinion.

 

[iuvol2012]

6. Not firing Fulmer earlier

7. Giving Fulmer a raise and extension.

Both of these.

 

[Tenacious D]

7. Giving Fulmer a raise and extension.

Giving Phil an egregiously stupid automatic extension for any 8-win season, and a $6M buyout.....before firing him the next season.
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[Domestic Silence]

Most of you yelling for Hamilton's head were the same ones cheering Kiffin when he was racking up secondaries. Is it raining yet up there on your perch?

 

[tripper]

David Blackburn is the real hero here. He gave Kiffin the rope and he hung himself with it. Blackburn insulated UT by isolating Kiffin. I don't buy all this Clay Travis crap that UT negotiated with the NCAA. They don't do it, period. Blackburn for AD.

 

[Tenacious D]

Most of you yelling for Hamilton's head were the same ones cheering Kiffin when he was racking up secondaries. Is it raining yet up there on your perch?

That's a convenient set of reasoning skills you've got there. Because some cheered Kiffin's scofflaws, Hammy is exonerated.

Hammy is the new Phil Fulmer. Hung around too long, too many lapses, and is about to see it all catch up to him. Spectacularly.
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[tripper]

Most of you yelling for Hamilton's head were the same ones cheering Kiffin when he was racking up secondaries. Is it raining yet up there on your perch?

Whatever. 6. and 7. are the reasons I want Hamilton gone. And his handling of the Pearl debacle which would be the major violations 1-8.

 

[Domestic Silence]

That's a convenient set of reasoning skills you've got there. Because some cheered Kiffin's scofflaws, Hammy is exonerated.

Hammy is the new Phil Fulmer. Hung around too long, too many lapses, and is about to see it all catch up to him. Spectacularly.
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I never said he should be exonerated, I believe he should be gone too. I'm just pointing out the "holier than thou" posters that come out and suddenly demand perfection from their AD, yet defended Kiffin and Pearl acting like criminals. Find how many threads are pro-Pearl, anti-Hamilton. It all goes together, fire them all.

I believe MH should be held accountable for what went on under his watch, but Bruce Pearl brought this, he should be fired before MH is.

 

[orange_peel]

I agree 100 % with firing of Mike Hamilton. Every coach he has hired has been in trouble with the NCAA. Hamilton knew what was going on and he turned a blind eye to it. Bye bye Mikey.