Fire Mike Hamilton (merged)

#51
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orange+white=heaven said:
Firing Hamilton now would only increase the number of column inches the scribes spend bemoaning the disarray at Tennessee...
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There might be one writer out there who would see UT taking such action to rid itself of the people causing problems in its past as a sign that the school if finally doing something to address its problems.

I don't even know how anyone could spin firing Hamilton as a sign that UT still doesn't care about the NCAA, or more simply put, 'playing fair.'
 
#52
#52
tigervol9802 said:
I don't think we're sitting on a Pat Hayden type person to come in and clear it up is the only reason I think we should wait. I think it would be hard to get someone at this present time. I would say bring Dickey back as interim, but I don't think he could handle it from a health (I did not think he looked good last time I saw him).

My two cents, but yes, I don't expet him there this time next year.
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Probably no Pat Haden, but one of the hundreds of million with an intelligence rank above Hamilton, but below Haden, could surely help. Especially, if you throw in one with enough leadership, vision, and PR management skill.
 
#53
#53
Mandel, Forde, plus anyone with half a brain should slam Hamilton.

It may take every sports writer on the planet to write their opinions on Hamilton before it gets through to our fanbase.
 
#55
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utmba93 said:
leadership, vision, and PR management skill.
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yeah we've had real problems getting anything done to our athletic facilities and just can't get any donations coming in. What a nightmare

just admit it, you were on the back end of the Fulmer thing and want to be seen as leading the charge to oust MH. It's ok if you just want some e-cred
 
#56
#56
utmba93 said:
Mandel, Forde, plus anyone with half a brain should slam Hamilton.

It may take every sports writer on the planet to write their opinions on Hamilton before it gets through to our fanbase.
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I don't think Hamilton will be here much longer.

However, he's not getting fired tomorrow.
 
#58
#58
one of the things i don't get is the following......

we can fire pearl because there are other good basketball coaches who can win games and pearl is not UT basketball......

but, we can't fire hamilton because apparently there are no other potential good athletic directors out there who could also raise a lot of money and upgrade facilities. hamilton must be UT athletics or something.
 
#59
#59
99gator said:
one of the things i don't get is the following......

we can fire pearl because there are other good basketball coaches who can win games and pearl is not UT basketball......

but, we can't fire hamilton because apparently there are no other potential good athletic directors out there who could also raise a lot of money and upgrade facilities. hamilton must be UT athletics or something.
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no one has said that. People just have agendas
 
#60
#60
99gator said:
one of the things i don't get is the following......

we can fire pearl because there are other good basketball coaches who can win games and pearl is not UT basketball......

but, we can't fire hamilton because apparently there are no other potential good athletic directors out there who could also raise a lot of money and upgrade facilities. hamilton must be UT athletics or something.
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We?

Are you a closet UT fan?

IMO, Hamilton is much more replaceable than Pearl from a performance perspective.
 
#61
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utvolpj said:
yeah we've had real problems getting anything done to our athletic facilities and just can't get any donations coming in. What a nightmare

just admit it, you were on the back end of the Fulmer thing and want to be seen as leading the charge to oust MH. It's ok if you just want some e-cred
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He's one of the best monkeys to hold a hat in a while... we all get that. But we'll be paying for the damage done long after he puts the hat down.

The fact that you wanted Fulmer fired earlier seems be a sticking point for you. I could give a crap about e-cred. It doesn't pay my bills like it does yours.
 
#62
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utmba93 said:
He's one of the best monkeys to hold a hat in a while... we all get that. But we'll be paying for the damage done long after he puts the hat down.

The fact that you wanted Fulmer fired earlier seems be a sticking point for you. I could give a crap about e-cred. It doesn't pay my bills like it does yours.
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just shows how seriously your opinion should be taken. Much of the damage was done by that former coach who couldn't let go.

And nothing about VN pays my bills
 
#63
#63
utvolpj said:
just shows how seriously your opinion should be taken. Much of the damage was done by that former coach who couldn't let go.

And nothing about VN pays my bills
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Yeh... it was really hyperbole, but I wondered how you'd respond. Pretty good retort, PJ. The other option was to ban me. :hi:
 
#65
#65
99gator said:
one of the things i don't get is the following......

we can fire pearl because there are other good basketball coaches who can win games and pearl is not UT basketball......

but, we can't fire hamilton because apparently there are no other potential good athletic directors out there who could also raise a lot of money and upgrade facilities. hamilton must be UT athletics or something.
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1. Tennessee is not keeping coach Pearl because he's the only basketball coach that can win games.We are keeping him because what he has done for Tennessee basketball....lead us to one of,if not the best,5 year run in Tennessee basketball history....and it's Mike's decision...for now.

2. We're not keeping Hamilton because he's the only ad
who can raise funds and improve facilities.He's still here because he has done those things EXTREMLY well and we're waiting to see if he can clean up this mess.
 
#67
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99gator said:
one of the things i don't get is the following......

we can fire pearl because there are other good basketball coaches who can win games and pearl is not UT basketball......

but, we can't fire hamilton because apparently there are no other potential good athletic directors out there who could also raise a lot of money and upgrade facilities. hamilton must be UT athletics or something.
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Most of that out of fear Hamilton would be replaced by Fulmer.

I don't get all the backing of Hamilton but this has to be it. Forget the fact he's turned UT athletics into a circus, just keep Fulmer out.
 
#68
#68
99gator said:
one of the things i don't get is the following......

we can fire pearl because there are other good basketball coaches who can win games and pearl is not UT basketball......

but, we can't fire hamilton because apparently there are no other potential good athletic directors out there who could also raise a lot of money and upgrade facilities. hamilton must be UT athletics or something.
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I don't really care either way, but you have a point about Hammy. UT spent major bucks on a search committee, ignored the recommendations, and ultimately hired Hammy. Fair or not, he's catching enough bad pub that he may lose his job. We have several viable candidates for his replacement on campus. Holloway, Blackburn, and Pat Summitt.
 
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#71
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Whether you like Hamilton or not, you have to acknowledge any other AD in the country under this kind of scrutiny would likely be out of a job. I personally don't care for Hamilton but he has done some great things for the university and it's athletic department. As an AD if you have three programs under NCAA investigation, are responsible for hiring the worst PR nightmare in program history as your football HC, you are likely not going to have a job long.
 
#72
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gnm53108 said:
1. Tennessee is not keeping coach Pearl because he's the only basketball coach that can win games.We are keeping him because what he has done for Tennessee basketball....lead us to one of,if not the best,5 year run in Tennessee basketball history....and it's Mike's decision...for now.

2. We're not keeping Hamilton because he's the only ad
who can raise funds and improve facilities.He's still here because he has done those things EXTREMLY well and we're waiting to see if he can clean up this mess.
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seriously?
 
#75
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gnm53108 said:
Yes....he has done a fantastic job of fundraising and facility improvement.
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this is like having a lawyer who is reprimanded by the bar, loses most of his cases, embarrasses his firm......but, did bring in a couple of new clients.

part of my angst is that i fully believe that hamilton is culpable for what has occurred. i don't think the actions of the people running these programs was not known to the athletic department.

especially, when it comes to kiffin and hamilton defended kiffin publicly at every opportunity no matter what the situation. hamilton and tennessee should send a large check to pete carroll and thank god that the usc job opened up. who knows what further damage that man would have caused with more time and an athletic director who was going to look the other way.
 
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