First day in office.

[Vol Mania 21]

i can see that happening at one point

 

[Vol Mania 21]

Red coats, red coats, red coats

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

i know that queen is looking for her chance...

 

[vader]

Pistol-Grip PUMP on my lap at all times..
Pistol-Grip PUMP on my lap at all times..
Pistol-Grip PUMP on my lap at all times..

:thumbsup: I like that album a lot.

 

[SavageOrangeJug]

Where are the Obama disciples to tell us the error of our ways.

Surely we have misinterpreted the Messiah's first day job performance. These actions are indeed producing jobs, and finding new alternative energy sources.

Obama created seventy-four new jobs in the time it took me to type this post.

 

[gsvol]

Somehow left out of your list was the calls he put into Israeli and Muslim leaders in the middle east and briefings he received from the joint chiefs.

But I'm sure it is more fun to focus on the stuff you want to ridicule.

Was that one the White House site??

So, gs, Obama lists 24 policy areas....why do you suggest that he is focusing on Civil Rights and Urban Policy on day one....I would think day one looked more like this;



...or why not.....

Rural:

I was focusing on the social engineering aspects obviously, why do you ask?

We are definately going to have a huge bump for the LGTOP agenda.

That is what I started with, I was underwhelmed with the rural program, I did like it that they say they will put rural teacher pay on the same scale as urban teachers but I doubt it will happen, the state determines those pay scales and federal urban programs just keep throwing in money instead of doing intelligent things.

In my special bubble world..I'll pretend he was working on some of these issues day one:

Energy:



Technology:

Hope you aren't injured when your bubble bursts.

Obviously you turn you nose up at anything that doesn't smack of socialism.

I'm just saying there will be a toll booth along the way.

i know that queen is looking for her chance...

Actually Wellington never surrendered to Washington and said; "there are other ways to fight."

Of course they burned Washington down during the war of 1812.

The great depression of the 1930s was a direct result of the Bank of England shutting off our credit. We would never have been in debt to them if the Federal Reserve Act had not been passed during the Wilson administration.

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

we need a good non-nuclear war to start up somewhere in europe, thatll fix the econ situation

 

[gsvol]

Pistol-Grip PUMP on my lap at all times..
Pistol-Grip PUMP on my lap at all times..
Pistol-Grip PUMP on my lap at all times..

we need a good non-nuclear war to start up somewhere in europe, thatll fix the econ situation

You don't think it will start in the Balkans again do you??

Something Obama didn't do the first day!!!

Attend the Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball, which has been attended by every president since its inception 56 years ago. The event, hosted by the American Legion, the Military Order of Purple Hearts, and Paralyzed Veterans for America, recognizes their service and was attended by 48 of the nation's 99 living Medal of Honor recipients. This is the 50th anniversary of the Medal of Honor Society.

To put Obama's inaugural address into context, consider this proclamation at his kick-off celebration in Philadelphia: "What is required is a new declaration of independence, not just in our nation, but in our own lives..." While he spells out his vision for that "new declaration" for our nation in his inaugural speech, I can only presume that his reference to "in our own lives" means rehab for those of us who are "bitterly clinging to guns and religion."

 

[gsvol]

Well, then he is obviously a different breed of politician. Good luck!

I hope you aren't referring to his Arabic background.

 

[truefan]

You don't think it will start in the Balkans again do you??

Something Obama didn't do the first day!!!

Attend the Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball, which has been attended by every president since its inception 56 years ago. The event, hosted by the American Legion, the Military Order of Purple Hearts, and Paralyzed Veterans for America, recognizes their service and was attended by 48 of the nation's 99 living Medal of Honor recipients. This is the 50th anniversary of the Medal of Honor Society.

To put Obama's inaugural address into context, consider this proclamation at his kick-off celebration in Philadelphia: "What is required is a new declaration of independence, not just in our nation, but in our own lives..." While he spells out his vision for that "new declaration" for our nation in his inaugural speech, I can only presume that his reference to "in our own lives" means rehab for those of us who are "bitterly clinging to guns and religion."[/B]

I disagree totally. I think what he means is the American people have to learn to make it for themselves...individually, for us to get back on the right track and succeed as a country.

 

[MG1968]

I disagree totally. I think what he means is the American people have to learn to make it for themselves...individually, for us to get back on the right track and succeed as a country.

if that's the case, why is he proposing so many big government programs like universal health care?

 

[TennTradition]

I was focusing on the social engineering aspects obviously, why do you ask?

Because I would like to know in what world you live that you think that his first day on the job was focused on this long list of issues instead of, oh say, national security and the economy - which his first day was actually spent working on.

Don't get me wrong, he may screw it up royally...but I had a problem with your creative construction of history. It's not that I turn my nose up at anything that doesn't smack of socialism as you said (yay...2008/2009's buzzword!!)....I just turn my nose up at blatant attempts to cast a specific filtered light on any issue without any mention of the complexities or subtleties involved. Do you really think he spent his first day working on this list of social programming issues?

 

[gsvol]

Because I would like to know in what world you live that you think that his first day on the job was focused on this long list of issues instead of, oh say, national security and the economy - which his first day was actually spent working on.

Don't get me wrong, he may screw it up royally...but I had a problem with your creative construction of history. It's not that I turn my nose up at anything that doesn't smack of socialism as you said (yay...2008/2009's buzzword!!)....I just turn my nose up at blatant attempts to cast a specific filtered light on any issue without any mention of the complexities or subtleties involved. Do you really think he spent his first day working on this list of social programming issues?

My comment about you being such a socialist groupie would have been better directed at realut.

My creative construct of history???

Let's discuss recent Balkan history, in depth!!!

Want to really discuss complexities and/or subtleties involved???

Discuss the Vietnam POW issue.

How about the nuances???

Kerry and Harkin's reconstruct of the Sandanistas in Nicaragua was criminal!



Do you really think he spent his first day working on this list of social programming issues?

I only copied what he and his subordinates posted on the White House site.


Want to discuss the new 'global warming tsar?

It's business as usual in Washington despite Obama's smooth rhetoric, otherwise why do we have so many Clintonistas being appointed to high government posts and we know for a fact the Clinton administration was the most corrupt in American history, bar none.

Thanks to the fast action of a spendthrift Democrat Congress, President Barack Obama will soon have more than $1 trillion to play with in his attempt to save America's faltering economy. The remaining $350 billion of the TARP bailout money was put on the fast track so that it can presumably be spent on virtually anything but the financial services industry it was originally meant to serve. Then the House put together a whopping $825 billion recovery package that will dump large chunks of taxpayer money on a number of projects that are unlikely to provide the immediate "shot in the arm" that the package is supposed to bring to the economy. Not to mention the extra $6,700 of debt for every American household.

(Why not just give every man, woman a child in America the $6,700 and see how that works out??)

Didn't Bill Clinton tell us 13 years ago that the era of Big Government was over?:no:

Clinton RECORDS SET

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court


Ow wait, Al Gore reinvented government, I forgot that for a sec, forgive me.:banghead2:

All of that soaring rhetoric is supported by policies that are so old they creak. Obama may be shiny, bright, and new, but his ideas are suffering from senility."
---Mona Charen

 

[TennTradition]

My comment about you being such a socialist groupie would have been better directed at realut.

What??

As for your other comments....I do respect (in the middle of your over-the-line copy and pastes) your focus on illuminating what you see as (and may be) the truth regarding the Balkans. Although....I must say that I would be more swayed by personal posts that you write entirely yourself and offer personal insight/understanding.

I personally find it pretty hard to follow your posts...even as someone who is willing to click the links.

As for the remainder of your comments about Gore and Clinton...I'm confused, but I will agree that Clinton was shady man....no doubt about that.

 

[gsvol]

What??

As for your other comments....I do respect (in the middle of your over-the-line copy and pastes) your focus on illuminating what you see as (and may be) the truth regarding the Balkans. Although....I must say that I would be more swayed by personal posts that you write entirely yourself and offer personal insight/understanding.

I personally find it pretty hard to follow your posts...even as someone who is willing to click the links.

As for the remainder of your comments about Gore and Clinton...I'm confused, but I will agree that Clinton was shady man....no doubt about that.

I would hope also that you pick up just a bit on the true nature of Islam and can now objectively compare their construct of history vs reality. Likewise what is going on in Africa, particularly South Africa.

Obama says we shouldn't have gone into Iraq because it was a muslim country but on the other hand he says it is arrogant of Christians to think this is a Christian country, he says America is now a diverse Christian, muslim, Buddhist etc etc country.

"We recognize no Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus!"
John Hancock
(and we certainly don't recognize the authority of any Iman or Caliph over the sovereignty of any American citizen.)

Let's talk about Kerry, Harkin, Ortega and Nicaragua.

At my house we don't smoke inside, usually that's done in a two car garage, on the front porch or the patio.

One day I walked out into the garage and saw a guy that I wondered about, he was the guest of my son. I have always been especially proud of the people they have chosen to befriend but the first time I saw that guy I knew he had seen some very tough times. I thought perhaps he had served some time in prison, but later learned from talking to my son that this wasn't the case.

A couple of years later I ran into the young guy as he got off work and we had a drink together. It was closing time and so went to a black after hours joint to continue our discussion. After a couple of games of pool we sat and had a couple more beers and the conversation turned to central America where he had served eight years on behalf of America. Tears welled up in his eyes as expressed his disappointment at how Americans thought of what had happened vis a' vis what most Americans thought had happened. He said they were the ones who tortured, murdered and trafficked in illegal drugs, not us. (He went into some detail of their brutal torture methods.)

But Kerry and Harkin and their allies in Washington were able to sell a lie to America. (Remember Iran/Contra?)

I already knew what happened there, (one of Ortega's first acts was the murder the leader of the small coffee growers union) but my young friend's tear filled eyes reminded me of the Slovenian who had fought for the independence of Slovenia against the Yugoslavian (under Serbian command) army when I asked him about the Clinton Balkan policy and the look on his face when he said; "you know the muslims cut your head off if you don't become a muslim don't you?" as his eyes filled with tears.

It also reminded me of a young congressional aide when I asked him if people in Washington were concerned about the unusual amount of strange deaths surrounding the Clinton white house and he couldn't answer except to nod his head yes as his eyes welled up with tears.

Personal enough??

Some people cherish the truth and some people will lie to suit their own purposes and will lie even when telling the truth would be easier and then many people will believe the lies because they either are never presented the truth or will reject it because it would burst their little bubble and make them question many things they have previously accepted as fact. Then there are the rare few who actually know the truth.

Clinton wasn't and isn't just shady, he is a murderous psychopath. Gore is his useful idiot errand boy.

It is settled fact to most people that;

1.) There were no WMDs in Iraq and

2.) Iraq had nothing at all to do with 9/11.

Why were there no WMDs found you ask?

1.) Among other things, Democrat Jay Rockefeller the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee went to Syria two or three months before our troops were sent into Iraq and informed the Baathists that we would indeed invade and so Saddam and his allies had ample time to disperse those assets. Rockefeller publicly admitted as much.

Just this week an al-qaeda affiliated wmd lab (probably biological) in Libya was shut down by them because they made some sort of mistake and forty of their own died.

A remark by former CIA director James Woolsey on Clinton's policy toward terrorists and their sponsors, particularly Saddam Hussein; "It sets some kind of a record, I think, for fecklessness."

Asked to define "feckless" by the interviewer, Woolsey responded; "Indecision, lack of will, not making a decision and following it through. I don't know what the reasons were for the eight years, particularly during the Clinton administration, of their continuing to let him buffalo them and get rid of the inspections and get rid of UNSCOM and work his way gradually out from under most of the sanctions that meant anything. But by the end of those eight years, I think he was sitting there laughing at us, and understandably so."

2.) We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that Iraqi intelligence was involved in the New York Trade Center bombing, and involved in the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing.

There is plenty of other evidence out there about Hussein's Iraqi intelligence involvement including the
training camp at Salman Pak that was used to train operatives, including those who were not Iraqis, in the art of hijacking passenger aircraft.

Neither Woolsey nor the head of Czech intelligence ever recanted their report that Atta met in Prague with an Iraqi intelligence operative just prior to 911.

 

[TennTradition]

:good!:

 

[RCKYT0P]

Don't see much wrong with that. Heck, I think it's refreshing to see a President actually doing something, instead of playing with his dog on the front lawn.

I am sure he will do plenty of that once the weather warms up....this guy is not going to be hugely different.

Anything he does wrong will probably not be publicized or it will be because Bush left him in that situation.

Once his presidency is over, Obama will go down as one of the greatest ever....regardless of what he really does.