'22 FL SDE Gabriel Jacas (Illinois signee)

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volbeast33 said:
Dabo’s Evals use to not but he still hit the majority of his guys…. When he won a championship….. his Evals started matching the rankings.
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I’m thinking Dabo didn’t win that championship with the majority of his upperclassmen being 3-stars. Maybe I’m wrong
 
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WebbCobb said:
I’m thinking Dabo didn’t win that championship with the majority of his upperclassmen being 3-stars. Maybe I’m wrong
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I looked at it the other day… he had a couple upper 4*/5* players….. a few more mid 4* players….. the rest were low 4* to high/mid 3* players… he had 2-3 very low 3* players and two walk ons…. That was just the starting 22 that I looked at.
 
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GregAmsler said:
And oddly enough, he won championships with lower rated classes and the program has slipped with a roster full of top 5 classes.
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The 2018 championship was fueled by top 5 classes in 2015 and 2016. The 2016 championship by classes in the mid-teens. The typical recruit in such classes is not a three star with less than stellar offers.

In no way am I trying to take a shot at this recruit. I am speaking generally to refute this idea that top teams and the top of the recruiting rankings have nothing in common.

Of course, you’ll just raise the chicken and egg argument that the recruit rankings are driven by the teams that the recruits commit to. So, maybe easiest to just agree to disagree at this point.
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
Not really, the Volquest guys said a few weeks ago that Pruitt spent way too much time on big time recruits that they had very little chance of getting and ignored too many in state guys
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Yep and that they went off of their own evaluations.

volbeast33 said:
We are not in position to recruit in the same pond as Bama and Georgia yet…. We have to trust our evaluations like Clemson did…. They would always be rated somewhere between 11-17 most years while they were building….. I saw a show one time that re-ranked recruiting classes years later and those same classes were now top 5. A big part of the reason for Fulmers decline was he had a top 3 class one season with only one of those guys being a big contributor…. He had missed on pretty much every player he recruited….. Butch and Mullen are two of the worse at that…. Butch would take a 4* kid to be able to brag about brick by brick and a lot of teams those players would flame out before they barely got on campus. Mullen is the same way…. He might have a top 10 class I. The rankings but after those guys completed their careers…. I bet they would be re ranked around 20-25 or later. If we can’t evaluate and develop then we will never win…. It’s really that simple and when we do grow enough…. Our evaluations will equal those ratings that you are after.
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All I was saying is everyone for years has continued this I don't care about ranking, I trust in the coaches evaluations sentiment, without any hesitation or caution.

I just get tired of hearing that. Trust the coaches, that's fine but take heed.
 
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WebbCobb said:
The 2018 championship was fueled by top 5 classes in 2015 and 2016. The 2016 championship by classes in the mid-teens. The typical recruit in such classes is not a three star with less than stellar offers.

In no way am I trying to take a shot at this recruit. I am speaking generally to refute this idea that top teams and the top of the recruiting rankings have nothing in common.

Of course, you’ll just raise the chicken and egg argument that the recruit rankings are driven by the teams that the recruits commit to. So, maybe easiest to just agree to disagree at this point.
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In my defense, re: the chicken/egg argument, it’s been admitted by folks in the business. So it’s kind of a given.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Dabo’s Evals use to not but he still hit the majority of his guys…. When he won a championship….. his Evals started matching the rankings.
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For Dabo, the biggest thing is he had great QB play for a number of years which in turn helped land elite recruits. This year Clemson you a suffering from mediocre QB play with all their elite recruits and soft conference schedule not having an elite QB is what has cost them.
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
Not really, the Volquest guys said a few weeks ago that Pruitt spent way too much time on big time recruits that they had very little chance of getting and ignored too many in state guys
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This confirms what I always thought about him. Pruitt’s recruiting while at UT was so overrated, especially with all the McDonald’s bags that were going out.
 
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kamoshika said:
Registered 31 tackles, 7 TFL & 3 sacks his junior year but saw most of his action on the OL. Focusing on defense this season, Jacas exploded for 83 tackles, 35 TFL, 13 sacks, 13 QB hurries, 3 blocked FGs and a blocked punt.
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Remember... Jackass was Johnny Knoxville
 
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VolFanNC09 said:
For Dabo, the biggest thing is he had great QB play for a number of years which in turn helped land elite recruits. This year Clemson you a suffering from mediocre QB play with all their elite recruits and soft conference schedule not having an elite QB is what has cost them.
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We have Josh Heupel….. QB play is taken care of.
 
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kamoshika said:
Registered 31 tackles, 7 TFL & 3 sacks his junior year but saw most of his action on the OL. Focusing on defense this season, Jacas exploded for 83 tackles, 35 TFL, 13 sacks, 13 QB hurries, 3 blocked FGs and a blocked punt.
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So you're saying we're in on him before he becomes a 4-star.
 
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Garner and Jean-Mary also visited Tulane edge rusher commitment Gabriel Jacas of Fort Pierce (Fla.) Central High School. The Vols extended an offer to the 6-foot-3, 248-pound Jacas less than two weeks ago. He’s coming off an official visit to Illinois last weekend, and South Florida and Tulane currently are set to host him on official visits next week. But he hasn’t ruled out using one of his remaining visits to take a look at Tennessee leading up to Early Signing Day.

-Callahan
 
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