Florida game

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99gator said:
I'm going to get killed for this, but I really don't believe the mental thing is that bad.

I think it's worse on the fans than the players.

The comparison I could make is the Florida-Georgia game. It wasn't mental during the 90's. Florida was just better. It actually became more mental when the Zook teams beat favored Georgia teams.

If there's a mental block, it's getting quality wins period. And that seal was broken by beating South Carolina last season.

If there's a mental thing there, it's more on the positive end of the Florida side that allows them not to panic when adversity hits or whatever else happens.

JMO
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It's a fair assessment, but IMO if it's not the mental aspect, the only other explanation is that it's a matchup thing. Maybe Florida's strengths have just played to our weaknesses year in and year out.

I agree Florida has been "better" than Tennessee in recent years. I also think in the past 3 years Georgia has been "better" than Florida. But we always keep it close with Georgia. In the last 3 years, Georgia has beaten us by 8 or less points every year. Meanwhile, the Florida games haven't felt competitive.

That's pretty much why I have chalked it up to "mental" at this point. Florida has been a better team than Tennessee in recent years, but not that much better. Not so much better that the games aren't competitive by the start of the 4th quarter.
 
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Kinda unfair that they have more of a chance to miss a bowl now altho I douvt they would
 
#30
#30
I do believe there has been a mental aspect when we've played Florida for the past 20 years. However, for the first time in that long, I think that "we can't win attitude" is out the door. Thanks to Butch Jones I believe that attitude has changed. I'm not saying we beat Florida, but I bet they don't get scared and quit!
 
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First time I'm going to be at a Florida game, so I'm certainly hoping for a Big Orange win!!!
 
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Other_Guy said:
Kinda unfair that they have more of a chance to miss a bowl now altho I douvt they would
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Double edged sword for the Gators. On the negative side, that would have more than likely been a W for the Gators and possibly a game to get some young guys some game reps. The positive would be that there was obviously no injuries in the game, so that's one less game of wear and tear on their players.
 
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24/7vol said:
I agree that the UF thing is more mental for the fans than the players. I don't think AJ or Maggit or the sophmores and freshmen will go into that game stressing about the streak. Excuse me for getting off topic but I just saw where we are Ole Miss's homecoming game. I hope we have a big chip on our shoulders for every game this year.
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Maybe not young guys but AJ wants to beat the heck out of Florida, he's lost to them too much. When I played football there was a team we hadn't beaten since 1964. We didn't play them on a yearly basis but enough to feel like a rival, they were after all the next town down the highway. They were always seen as the golden school of the county as far as football.

We played them for the first time I ever played them my Junior year and lost a tough game. My senior year we scheduled them for homecoming. We beat them 41-38. I had the game winning interception. Best moment in my high school career. We went on to a 12-0 season before losing in the regional championship game. My point is when your school loses to a particular team consecutively it becomes apart of the schools blood. Everyone dislikes that team regardless of how often you play them. I had never played them my junior year but I hated their guts.

There is a mental thing when it comes to winning and losing. My senior year we were able to break out of the losing mentality of the school. Before my senior year my school had only one other undefeated regular season (10-1), rarely had winning seasons, and zero regional championship appearances.

Since my senior year, after our class built a foundation of winning football, my high school has only had one losing season (in a span of 9+ years), 6-7 district championships, a regional championship win, and a state championship appearance (runner-up, 2013). In that span they are something like 85-23. Hopefully AJ and this team can do that for UT!
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Don't forget Eastern Michigan, Missouri, Vanderbilt and Eastern Kentucky...we could easily lose all those games too.
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Is gator nation of the opinion that getting a W against Idaho to possible salvage a bowl game is not really that big of a deal because that would mean WM is gone anyway?
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chatt-townVOL said:
It's not. Not only is there the mental aspect of the Florida curse, and the fact that Oklahoma is bad overrated, and the fact that Florida is bad underrated, and the fact that Florida will be healthy this year, and an unhealthy Florida beat us last year, but the Florida defense is also a very very very bad matchup for our offense.

If we beat Oklahoma by 2 scores I still won't feel confident going into the Florida game.
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You're typically pretty objective about most things, but I think you're off base on this one. I don't think Florida is underrated or overrated. I think they suffer from the same problem that a lot of teams have this pre-season which is "who the hell knows what they'll do." I've seen everything from 9 win seasons to barely breaking even.

And the problem now is nobody can specifically say Florida is back because Eastern Michigan isn't exactly a world class opponent. So it's still going to take another week or even two until anyone can see if this new offense is taking hold.

I think of the past decade we've played them, I feel more comfortable going in this year than any other.
 
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Would someone like to explain why people think that UF is going to have a bad year again? They are 100% healthy as far as I know. So what have any of you seen that would make you believe they are going to suck again?

As much as I hate to say it, UF will compete for the east. I hope we can beat them. I say they will only lose to Alabama and FSU. There is a small chance they lose to UT/LSU.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You're typically pretty objective about most things, but I think you're off base on this one. I don't think Florida is underrated or overrated. I think they suffer from the same problem that a lot of teams have this pre-season which is "who the hell knows what they'll do." I've seen everything from 9 win seasons to barely breaking even.

And the problem now is nobody can specifically say Florida is back because Eastern Michigan isn't exactly a world class opponent. So it's still going to take another week or even two until anyone can see if this new offense is taking hold.

I think of the past decade we've played them, I feel more comfortable going in this year than any other.
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UT was a big favorite in 2012.

And whether or not UF is "back" depends on your perspective. UF is not a national title contender, and right now UGA looks to be the East's best team.

That said, for UF to be "back" imo, we need to win at least 8 games, one of which being UGA.

Following a 4-8 season with 7-4 won't cut it.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
UT was a big favorite in 2012.

And whether or not UF is "back" depends on your perspective. UF is not a national title contender, and right now UGA looks to be the East's best team.

That said, for UF to be "back" imo, we need to win at least 8 games, one of which being UGA.

Following a 4-8 season with 7-4 won't cut it.
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"Back" is an interesting term that gets pitched around a lot.
 
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BeecherVol said:
"Back" is an interesting term that gets pitched around a lot.
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I agree.

Miami was "back" after beating UF last year.

UF was "back" after beating LSU a couple years ago.

UT is "back" after last year's South Carolina game.

Back where? It's like we all went on a trip somewhere and no one expected us to return.
 
#49
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Lawrence Wright said:
UT was a big favorite in 2012.

And whether or not UF is "back" depends on your perspective. UF is not a national title contender, and right now UGA looks to be the East's best team.

That said, for UF to be "back" imo, we need to win at least 8 games, one of which being UGA.

Following a 4-8 season with 7-4 won't cut it.
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In 2012 we also had the Dooley syndrome going on so that's kind of an unfair assessment.

By "back" I mean competitive in the East and maybe going to the SEC CG. It doesn't take but one or two games for any team to make the jump into the lead in this division. Let's face it, the SEC East has that tendency to have some pretty screwy situations that determine the leader.

So I'll agree that "back" would be an 8 win season.
 
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Grand Vol said:
In 2012 we also had the Dooley syndrome going on so that's kind of an unfair assessment.

By "back" I mean competitive in the East and maybe going to the SEC CG. It doesn't take but one or two games for any team to make the jump into the lead in this division. Let's face it, the SEC East has that tendency to have some pretty screwy situations that determine the leader.

So I'll agree that "back" would be an 8 win season.
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The Dooley excuse is way overplayed.

As the season wore on it became apparent that UF had a better football team than UT in 2012.
 
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