Florida killing Virginia game thread.

[Jaws]

Cousin Eddie knows how to maintain a $hitter too.

Although, as far as recruiting, your class of 2019 really wasn't that great... if you are evaluating only the players who made it in.

2019 was fine. You can’t re-rank and re-shuffle everyone. 2020 is shaping up to be excellent. I’m thrilled with the job Mullen is doing.

 

[Jaws]

What I can tell you is that we played LSU in Baton Rouge at night and the game was in doubt in the 4th quarter.

By the way, only one team held the lead v LSU in the second half this year and only one team was tied with them in the 4th quarter. Florida.

 

[BowlBrother85]

2019 was fine. You can’t re-rank and re-shuffle everyone. 2020 is shaping up to be excellent. I’m thrilled with the job Mullen is doing.

Florida's 2019 signing class was less "fine" when you don't include the players who aren't currently enrolled at the University of Florida, such as Diwun Black, Deyavie Hammond, Arjei Henderson, Jalon Jones and Chris Steele. I don't think Wardrick Wilson made it in either, although, he may be enrolling in the spring. Without these players, I'm pretty sure your class would have been well outside the top 10, and also below Tennessee's class.

 

[Jaws]

No, they really don't. If you subtract the players who didn't make it in, from their 2019 signing class, it falls below Tennessee's class of 2019. And their class of 2020, so far, is better than Tennessee's, but not significantly so, in terms of player average. We will see how we both finish.

As has been mentioned many times, by many people, in many threads, you can’t re-rank, re-shuffle and ex post facto these recruiting classes. That’s why the services don’t even attempt to. Why? Because you’d have to redo EVERYONE, not just the team certain fans are hoping to see look worse. UF isn’t the only team who lost players to grades, off field trouble, injury, transfer, etc. Damn near every team in the country has that. Some teams, and Mullen has been the best in the country at this, supplement classes with transfers. Would any sane fan think that adding Jon Greenard to the Florida roster doesn’t more than offset losing a homesick Freshman cornerback who was struggling to make the three-deep?

I understand you wanting something, anything, to possibly show that Mullen isn’t doing the tremendous job he appears to be doing, so you’re hanging on to this “man, look at that attrition in the 2019 recruiting class” as something to pounce on, but Mullen and UF fans are long past that. Hell, two guys who didn’t make it in that 2019 class are set to attend UF anyhow in later classes; Wardrick Wilson in 2020 and Diwan Black in 2021. How do you re-rank them? Extra credit in the 20 and 21 classes?

Take your L’s on the field and in recruiting. Pruitt has done well this year, build on that instead of trying to take some shine off Mullen’s star.

 

[Jaws]

Florida's 2019 signing class was less "fine" when you don't include the players who aren't currently enrolled at the University of Florida, such as Diwun Black, Deyavie Hammond, Arjei Henderson, Jalon Jones and Chris Steele. I don't think Wardrick Wilson made it in either, although, he may be enrolling in the spring. Without these players, I'm pretty sure your class would have been well outside the top 10, and also below Tennessee's class.

So 2019 had a little more attrition than normal, barely. Nearly every team in America loses 2 or 3, Florida lost about 5. So what. They added Jon Greenard (all-SEC and all-American according to CBS) and Brenton Cox consensus 5-star last year. Since we’re discrediting them for losing guys, you gotta credit then when they add guys.

In 2018 they added Van Jefferson, Tre Grimes, Jean Delance, Adam Shuler, Marlon Dunlap, and others. These guys are big time starters. Where do they show up in the recruiting rankings?

Look, Gator fans won’t be completely happy until Mullen is in the top 3 yearly in recruiting. But as far as the transfer portal, he’s the best coach in America at adding to his roster. That’s recruiting too! Florida is rumored to be the leader right now for transfers and consensus 5-stars WR Justin Porter (Penn State) and RB Lorenzo Lingard (Miami). If he lands those two, he’s set to have four 5-stars on the roster all pulled in from the transfer portal, Grimes and Cox are the other two.

He’s ahead of the game here, everyone else is slow to the party.

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Agreed.

His staff did a great job preparing for us.

He did, but your speed kicked their ass especially on the edge. Well played game gator.

 

[Zues1]

Cousin Eddie for the win.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Florida's 2019 signing class was less "fine" when you don't include the players who aren't currently enrolled at the University of Florida, such as Diwun Black, Deyavie Hammond, Arjei Henderson, Jalon Jones and Chris Steele. I don't think Wardrick Wilson made it in either, although, he may be enrolling in the spring. Without these players, I'm pretty sure your class would have been well outside the top 10, and also below Tennessee's class.

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If only there was a secondary channel to bring in talent...a portal if you will.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

And since when are y'all into moral victories?

Trask was quoted that he wanted another shot at LSU, he should be thankful that Georgia and Oklahoma spared him that opportunity.

Apparently as long as we have been, considering how this place was almost wanting to extend Pruitt because we played well against Alabama.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I guess I never realized how rent free Florida lives in the heads of some of you. I mean it's comical levels of cognitive dissonance.

 

[beneVOLence]

Agreed.

His staff did a great job preparing for us.

That game last night could have been different. The fumble that was/wasn't and the Virginia QB throwing the interception to Florida in the red zone. Like most games it comes down to a few plays. Bronco and Mullen are both good coaches. Not sure why people on here want to argue about that. Maybe he's not good enough to win a NC at Florida only time will tell, but he will be in contention most years and probably will never have a terrible season. I'd take that at Tennessee for the next 10 years if I could order it up.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Yet the two previous coaches there couldn’t do that...... meanwhile Mullen won big in Starkville of all places compared to their history.

All while partnering up with Grantham who is arguably a top 5-10 DC in the game....

It was hard to crown Mullen a “great” coach based on his time at Starkville. However given his first two years, he’s well on his way.

Urban won 22 games in first two years at UF
Spurrier won 19 games in first two years at UF

Mullen is on his way to 21 games in first two years at UF

He’s well on his way to being a great coach at big time football where “great” expectations are.

Guy didn’t luck into anything like people are acting.

Shark humper won back to back East titles in his first 2 years at UF. Mullen hasn’t. JM won 19 in his first 2 seasons. Muschamp won 18 in his first 2.

The point is it’s not hard to win at a high level at UF. They have had elite talent ever since Meyer. Mullen isn’t building anything. Yes he is good but that’s about it.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I guess I never realized how rent free Florida lives in the heads of some of you. I mean it's comical levels of cognitive dissonance.

Thanks for your opinion on the matter. It’s really valued.

 

[CrybabyVol]

It is not that they would lose but lose big. They would not be competitive against Clemson and it would be like a D1 against a D3 team.

What is the point of this? My big brother will beat you up! Except Clemson isn't even our big brother.

 

[JMSqb11]

Shark humper won back to back East titles in his first 2 years at UF. Mullen hasn’t. JM won 19 in his first 2 seasons. Muschamp won 18 in his first 2.

The point is it’s not hard to win at a high level at UF. They have had elite talent ever since Meyer. Mullen isn’t building anything. Yes he is good but that’s about it.

Jim McElwain has never been a good coach. Mullen has. That’s the biggest difference.

Mullen has consistently won, Mac hasn’t.

There is literally no comparison between the two as they are lightyears apart in terms of coaching ability and record.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

What is the point of this? My big brother will beat you up! Except Clemson isn't even our big brother.

Everyone loves a good argument that nobody is having, don't you know?

Also, the Ravens would beat Clemson badly. IN YO FACE!

 

[CrybabyVol]

Shark humper won back to back East titles in his first 2 years at UF. Mullen hasn’t. JM won 19 in his first 2 seasons. Muschamp won 18 in his first 2.

The point is it’s not hard to win at a high level at UF. They have had elite talent ever since Meyer. Mullen isn’t building anything. Yes he is good but that’s about it.

But what did Muschamp win in his next years? What did McElwain win in his last? Those guys were fired for a reason. People on this board use very selective samplings to make their personal points work. We should breed some politicians. Our board always confuses me with its collective position regarding Florida. When it's convenient, Florida's talent is neck and neck with ours and they haven't accomplished anything. Then sometimes it's convenient for them to be light years ahead of us stacked with blue-talent. It makes my head spin.

 

[Jaws]

It’s more appropriate to compare Mullen’s 21-5 record in his first two years to Spurrier and Meyer, not to Mac and Muschamp.

Meyer - 22-4
Mullen - 21-5
Spurrier - 19-4
McElwain - 19-8
Muschamp - 18-8

Mac and Muschamp saw the wheels come off completely in season 3. Both crafted two of the worse seasons in Gator history in their third years.

I see nothing on the horizon to lead me to believe that Mullen is about to preside over a total collapse. UF’s 2020 schedule looks to be the easiest (on paper) in many years, he returns two experienced, good QB’s, he’s been fortunate with coaching staff continuity, he has recruited very well, and utilized the transfer portal extremely well.

Georgia could be more vulnerable next year especially if Fromm leaves. They have an early season trip to Tuscaloosa. 2020 could be the year Mullen and Florida regain SEC East dominance.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

What is the point of this? My big brother will beat you up! Except Clemson isn't even our big brother.

Are you a Florida fan? If not then why do you care?

 

[JMSqb11]

It’s more appropriate to compare Mullen’s 21-5 record in his first two years to Spurrier and Meyer, not to Mac and Muschamp.

Meyer - 22-4
Mullen - 21-5
Spurrier - 19-4
McElwain - 19-8
Muschamp - 18-8

Mac and Muschamp saw the wheels come off completely in season 3. Both crafted two of the worse seasons in Gator history in their third years.

I see nothing on the horizon to lead me to believe that Mullen is about to preside over a total collapse. UF’s 2020 schedule looks to be the easiest (on paper) in many years, he returns two experienced, good QB’s, he’s been fortunate with coaching staff continuity, he has recruited very well, and utilized the transfer portal extremely well.

Georgia could be more vulnerable next year especially if Fromm leaves. They have an early season trip to Tuscaloosa. 2020 could be the year Mullen and Florida regain SEC East dominance.

If Fromm leaves, I think Tennessee challenges UGA for the 2 spot in the East. Sure Florida has to prove they can finally beat UGA, but UGA is on the ropes with sustaining their winning next year if Fromm leaves

I would fully expect Trask to make a good leap forward as QB’s in year 2 with Mullen typically do take a leap.

Tennessee should have defense to play with Florida but offense has always been the breaking point.

 

[CrybabyVol]

Are you a Florida fan? If not then why do you care?

Because I think it makes our fans look like whiny p***syies, and I believe through all the crap that has happened to this program that we still have the best fans in the nation (for the most part)

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Because I think it makes our fans look like whiny p***syies, and I believe through all the crap that has happened to this program that we still have the best fans in the nation (for the most part)

Just stating a hypothetical opinion between two teams if they played is whining and makes VN members look bad. LOL. Maybe you should change your VN name then.

 

[JMSqb11]

2019 was fine. You can’t re-rank and re-shuffle everyone. 2020 is shaping up to be excellent. I’m thrilled with the job Mullen is doing.

Which is the only opinion that matters - that of Florida fans. Mullen is a rock solid coach. Never understood the constant need to undercut him by some Vol fans. Of course I’m biased as I met several times and got to know him while he was at State.