Florida Reporter Amanda Woods-Will Grier bought PED's in JUNE!

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What's dicey? There's no doubt he was on them before yesterday but he wasn't tested until a week or two ago and became ineligible upon test results, which take 10-15 days to receive. He was suspended and done so immediately. Are you hoping for a vacated win for them/loss for us? We had a chance to earn it on the field and pissed it away as fast as Grier's season.
 
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What's dicey? There's no doubt he was on them before yesterday but he wasn't tested until a week or two ago and became ineligible upon test results, which take 10-15 days to receive. He was suspended and done so immediately. Are you hoping for a vacated win for them/loss for us? We had a chance to earn it on the field and pissed it away as fast as Grier's season.

I'd happily take a 1-0 win over Florida wouldn't you?
 
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What's dicey? There's no doubt he was on them before yesterday but he wasn't tested until a week or two ago and became ineligible upon test results, which take 10-15 days to receive. He was suspended and done so immediately. Are you hoping for a vacated win for them/loss for us? We had a chance to earn it on the field and pissed it away as fast as Grier's season.

Not looking for vacated wins... I just like to watch a good Floridian Meltdown every now and then.
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I really really hope UF is ruled ineligible for post season or something. Then we have a pretty fair shot at the SEC championship game. If we lose to Bama UGA will just have to lose one more which is a possibility. And we win out after Bama
 
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I hate it, but we didn't lose because of Grier. We lost because our secondary is literally that bad.
 
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IMO the kid knew exactly what he was up to. He was gaining a lot of mass in a very short time period, even UF fans took note of how quickly he had added on weight.

They have dietitians with the program who give the student-athletes free supplements and the student-athletes are required to tell the dietitians if they are taking any additional supplements or prescriptions (to avoid having anything show up on drug screenings). Anyone who is a student-athlete under the NCAA knows the rules. The university is required to teach the kids the rules.

UF getting behind the kid's alleged ignorance is what really baffles me. They are inviting an investigation from the NCAA by doing that. And with the report of half the team supposedly sick then somehow playing lights out vs Ole Miss, well I wouldn't be surprised if UF was purposely being lax in their "random drug tests". Remember it was the NCAA who uncovered it - it wasn't self-reported by Florida.
 
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I'd happily take a 1-0 win over Florida wouldn't you?

It's been posted that it doesn't work that way; they vacate we don't claim wins. And no I don't want to back into ATL that way. 2007 when they lost 3 and we lost 2, despite drubbing us is not backing in, like some claim. This would be. We should've beaten them easily.
 
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So where's the part where the University of Florida knew about his usage, covered for him, and knowingly played him anyways, or where the University of Florida paid for this supplement or provided it themselves to Grier?
 
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For the record, if wins are vacated(and it's a big IF) it won't happen in time to benefit us this year. The NCAA simply operates way too slowly for that. It'll be at least next year and it'll be a moot point if it happens.
 
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For the record, if wins are vacated(and it's a big IF) it won't happen in time to benefit us this year. The NCAA simply operates way too slowly for that. It'll be at least next year and it'll be a moot point if it happens.

This but isn't it a possibility they simply rule UF ineligible for the SEC championship game??
 
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So where's the part where the University of Florida knew about his usage, covered for him, and knowingly played him anyways, or where the University of Florida paid for this supplement or provided it themselves to Grier?


You are doing it wrong.
 
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So where's the part where the University of Florida knew about his usage, covered for him, and knowingly played him anyways, or where the University of Florida paid for this supplement or provided it themselves to Grier?

You've been on VN long enough to know UF is in the process of covering all that stuff up.
 
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I really really hope UF is ruled ineligible for post season or something. Then we have a pretty fair shot at the SEC championship game. If we lose to Bama UGA will just have to lose one more which is a possibility. And we win out after Bama

It would be very unlikely. This isn't some extension to a university providing illegal benefits to players, or a university knowingly and continually violating rules, or a university refusing to cooperate with an investigation, or a recruiting scandal where players were paid, etc.

This is one player using a PED, who got tested. He got banned for a year when the NCAA said he should have been banned. (At the moment, there's no hidden tests or diluted samples or friends trying to take the test for him or anything like that.)




For comparison, look back at a random mandatory drug test by the NCAA during the 2007 NCAA basketball tournament, following the March 16th opening round games.

Had Chris Lofton positive test (the one that revealed the presence of his testicular cancer) actually been positive because of a performance enhancer, the Tennessee Volunteers weren't going to be forced to vacate all their previous wins in that season nor forfeit their upcoming game from that round of the tournament (giving Ohio State essentially a "bye" week). Nor would the game in-between the test and the notification - the Round of 32 game against Virginia - wouldn't have been undone, reversed or anything like that.

Lofton would have just been suspended from further participation in the tournament the day following the date the University and he were notified of the positive results (since it would be up for appeal).




Not to mention, you can also see the time delay in these tests: the random, mandatory drug test was taken on March 16 and the results were gotten back to the University on March 22 (the day of the game against Ohio State, which he didn't have to sit out).
 
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This but isn't it a possibility they simply rule UF ineligible for the SEC championship game??

No. And the SEC front offices would be the ones to do that, not the NCAA.

The NCAA just administers the postseason ban.
 

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