For all the ones talking about the country breaking up....

How much longer do we have left as a United States of America

  • 1-10 years

    Votes: 18 31.6%
  • 11-20 years

    Votes: 9 15.8%
  • 21-30 years

    Votes: 3 5.3%
  • 31-40 years

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 41-+ years

    Votes: 27 47.4%

  • Total voters
    57
#56
#56
Well, which states do we see turning red compared to those steadily turning blue. None.
The exodus of population from New York and California seems like a great reaction by people that are fed up with liberal policies, but then you realize they are moving to conservative areas and exponentially accelerating the liberalization of those areas. It's really worst case scenario. I'm not convinced that California and New York policies are not in place somewhat to encourage this.
 
#57
#57
The exodus of population from New York and California seems like a great reaction by people that are fed up with liberal policies, but then you realize they are moving to conservative areas and exponentially accelerating the liberalization of those areas. It's really worst case scenario. I'm not convinced that California and New York policies are not in place somewhat to encourage this.
Oh yeah. I’ve seen the billboards in LA. “Leave here and go to Beautiful Alabama!”
 
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#59
#59
You have a really great point here. The main problem is that a dissolution of the country does not line up cleanly in a geographic manner. If that were the case, it would be possible. Each of these industries/resources you talk about could be traded or developed in the other if there were a way to cleanly divide things. I just can't see how the geography ever lines up to make a split possible under any circumstances. I do think we'd be better off split into two or more nations at this point.

I don't think so, but I can understand how some may see the idea as appealing. The logistics and mechanics just don't work. When you start considering distribution centers located in blue areas that support red areas and vice versa. The same goes for data centers, mail sorting facilities, medical facilities, banking centers, and rail switching yards. Wall St is in a blue area. That's probably irrelevant though, because the market would crash like we've never seen if this ever occurred.
 
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#61
The exodus of population from New York and California seems like a great reaction by people that are fed up with liberal policies, but then you realize they are moving to conservative areas and exponentially accelerating the liberalization of those areas. It's really worst case scenario. I'm not convinced that California and New York policies are not in place somewhat to encourage this.
Don’t assume the people leaving CA and NY are all Dems. Go look at the House seats they have quite a few Repubs they are just not a majority.

Plus think back to around the 60’s TX was blue and CA was red.
 
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#68
A New Look at the Often Barely United States

From the author in 50 words or less:

“Break It Up” offers an entirely new way of thinking about these supposedly United States: The country has always been divided by race and region, interests and ideas. There was no guarantee it would hold together in the past, and there’s none now. Maybe it’s time to pull the plug.
 
#72
#72
I just think it makes the most sense to look at peaceful separation, perhaps with some sort of trade agreement in place.
 
#73
#73
So here we are with another presidential election gone. Again there is much division and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. So for those who keep talking of the country breaking up how long do you think we have and then comment on how you think it will all go down.
I am ready.
 
#74
#74
Until the "makers" stand up for ourselves and refuse to have our lives legislated into misery by the "takers" we will continue to backslide.

Biden being elected will be extremely detrimental to the ones who actually work their azzes off to get ahead. Increased income taxes, with absolutely no benefit to the working man. Doubling the corporate tax rate to 39% will absolutely cause the Biden Recession. Which hurts the makers once again. Take, take, take....

Until we stand up for ourselves and say "no more. You will take no more of my hard earned income to give to others " it will never end. The Takers will keep voting for whatever idiot promises them the most free sheit at our expense.

I do not owe anyone else healthcare.

I do not owe anyone else a college degree

I do not owe anyone else food, phones n 40s

I do not owe anyone else free housing

I do not owe anyone else free cash who doesn't work ...nor if they do work.

I do not owe anyone anything except respect and common courtesy, if it is shown to me.


As long as we let the leeches and bloated government programs make us poor, as long as we let the leeches vote themselves free sheit out of the largesse of our stolen wages, we will continue to spiral downward.

These very same fools who take my stolen work, my livelihood, my wages....these same leeches try to force their immoral belief systems and flawed ideologies on us. Try to shame us for being born white, or male, in the US. These same fools try and tell us that we MUST accept their BS like having more than the 2 biological sexes...identity politics...sexualizing children...normalizing of homosexuality (it isnt normal, sorry)...
and pretending Islam isn't a hate filled murderous religion. Its insanity to let these folks try to rewrite history to their liking and remake this once great nation into some warped, socialist, heathen, nanny state with ever increasing taxes and immorality.

Until and unless the "makers" in this country truly stand up for ourselves, the Constitution, our morals, and Capitalism, we will continue to slide down this ever increasing slope towards destruction of this Nation and our American way of life. At some point, the adults in this room have to stand up and say "No More. " and put these overly emotional and spoiled children to bed. Tick tock
I am ready...
 

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