For Those who Want Dooley Fired..

[VFL 24/7]

Kentucky game put the writing on the wall

 

[BigSteve09]

I didn't care about last year, it was just another year for me. I had been waiting on 2012 the whole time.

Florida was bad for everyone. Even the CFB analysts and experts knew that it was over.
UGA was Dooley's only chance for a "signature" win this year outside of Florida.

Mississippi State sealed the deal for me. To me, it was the make-or-break leading up to the season, I didn't expect us to really be THAT competitive with the big dogs, but I'm over it.

I consider myself a very objective, level-headed, person. That game was it. If I were a fan of any other team it would be apparent to me that UT would continue a downward trend with Dooley at the helm. I simply can not support this coach anymore.

Now we have another 2-3 years of BS coming up. Depending on the hire, the suffering could spill into the next decade.

I'm sick of us having to watch highlights of last millenium's Tennessee to feel any sense of pride. That's the only way that ESPN and CBS market us now. "Hey, they USED to be good! Tune in to see how far they've fallen" is usually where it goes.

Before the UF game, it was very apparent: "This rivalry USED to be worth a damn! Could be coming back? Check in and see!"

They'll do it before the Bama game too probably. SHow a bunch of highlights from the 70s-90s and call it a "storied" rivalry with "history."

I'm sick of THAT. I want to be back in the discussion every year.

And if this truly is IT, if we're really doomed to mediocrity from here on out and we truly were spoiled in the 90s by a once-in-a-lifetime coach for this program, I at least want to see us go down fighting, throwing money at everything that we can throw money at and networking the crap out of anyone that's worth it.

 

[CardsNVols]

I was never a fan of the hire. I mean....17-20 at Louisiana Tech. His opening presser made a lot of people like him and want to give him a shot, but I honestly don't feel a bit different now than I did the day he was hired.

 

[BigSteve09]

I was never a fan of the hire. I mean....17-20 at Louisiana Tech. His opening presser made a lot of people like him and want to give him a shot, but I honestly don't feel a bit different now than I did the day he was hired.

I remember the day that we hired Dooley I was listening to Cowherd on the way home from campus and he was like "they hired WHO?!" then he started laughing.

It was like rubbing salt and lemon juice in the wound that was Kiffin's embarrassing departure.

 

[Wylo]

WAC coach with nothing but his NAME going for him. Anyone who thought otherwise was dreaming.

 

[VOLinAL]

Actually the Akron game just about did me in.

 

[Tenacguy50]

I had high hopes going into the MSST game, but the result put me in the "It's time for a change column".

 

[EaglesVols91]

The loss to Kentucky. That was the day where we knew Dooley had completely lost the team.

 

[Rudy123]

I started to lean after the Kentucky game. NC State made me optimistic. Florida I got back on the fence....last night I jumped head first off the fence. I don't like the idea of having a 4th (that's including Phil) coach since 2008, but there isn't any indication of things getting any better around here....ever. Dooley will give us a career's worth of 5-7, 6-6, and 7-5 seasons if he stays.....unless those mediocre seasons make recruiting go down the sh*thole, then it's hello 3-9.

What is a better scenerio?

(1) Fire Dooley and let our enemies tell recruits to NOT got U.T. because they can't keep a coach. Possibly losing Gabe Wright, Santos, and the linebacker who went to Arkansas due to this....

OR

(2) To fire Dooley, only to pay him a buy out and then have to (a) fork out money for a top coach and his staff while paying Dooley's buy out or (b) only get interest from coachs at Marshall, East Carolina, Grambling & Southern Miss. then hire one of them who is no better than Dooley while paying Dooley's buy out.

OR


(3) Keep Dooley and let him be our Mike Shula by buliding up the roster for the next coach, once Dooley's buy out is no longer a factor in his contract?

 

[JayVols]

What is a better scenerio?

(1) Fire Dooley and let our enemies tell recruits to NOT got U.T. because they can't keep a coach. Possibly losing Gabe Wright, Santos, and the linebacker who went to Arkansas due to this....

OR

(2) To fire Dooley, only to pay him a buy out and then have to (a) fork out money for a top coach and his staff while paying Dooley's buy out or (b) only get interest from coachs at Marshall, East Carolina, Grambling & Southern Miss. then hire one of them who is no better than Dooley while paying Dooley's buy out.

OR


(3) Keep Dooley and let him be our Mike Shula by buliding up the roster for the next coach, once Dooley's buy out is no longer a factor in his contract?

D) none of the above

 

[Rudy123]

Agree with this. I am not angry with Dooley; I think he works hard and does the best he can - he simply is not a very good coach.

Hamilton should not have hired a coach with the horrid timing of Kiffin's departure; Kippy should have been named interim while a proper search was conducted. The timing of that abbreviated search eliminated several candidates from the very start. Pure idiocy, imo.

Had Kippy Brown been named the interim coach until they found the right coach, then I really, really doudt that Hunter or DaRick would have chosen U.T. I am sure we would have lost most of that recruiting class due to us not being able to tell them who the hire would be and when we would have the hire on campus.
Look at that recruiting class and tell me which one's would still have remained committed to U.T. had Kippy Brown been named interim? The recruits wanted a definate name as the new head coach.

 

[Rudy123]

Palardy, Neal, Rivera, Bray, Propst, Rogers, James, Stone, Hunter, would likely not have stayed committed to us had a head coach not been named.
Enemy school "Hell son, you don't want to go to U.T., they can't even make a timely decision on who they want to hire up there" They are likley to hire coach "X" and he is a run first coach" He has never put anyone in the N.F.L."

 

[GBOVOLS]

4-8 and hired from LA tech thats is when I was like this isn't going to work. We should have put an interim in place until we got things straighten out. Would have saved a boat load of money

 

[WesternKyVol]

arky 11

 

[YankeeVol]

Kentucky game. That's when it was obvious he had lost the team and has ZERO leadership

 

[dgcarter43]

When UT went into Lexington with a bowl game on the line, Ky having to use a receiver as QB, and the Vols look worse at the end of the year than at the start, it had to be the coaching staff. A young team should show improvement over the course of a season but that didn't happen. That settled it for me.

 

[volfan6977]

Florida game for sure. I actually had high hopes after the NC State game. Silly me.

I also had high hops after the NCSU game then along came Florida. The Vols looked like they had never been on the field before. I had my doubts about coach DD after THE STREAK end last year but the loss against the hated Gators did me in. Yes Kiffin set us back about five years but at this point I don't know if we can afford two more years of coach Dooley and his miserable coaching staff

 

[MystifyingVol]

I always said I'd give the man four years, he accelerated that by one year due to the complete collapse against UF this year... I was done with him at that point.

 

[gcbvol]

Had Kippy Brown been named the interim coach until they found the right coach, then I really, really doudt that Hunter or DaRick would have chosen U.T. I am sure we would have lost most of that recruiting class due to us not being able to tell them who the hire would be and when we would have the hire on campus.
Look at that recruiting class and tell me which one's would still have remained committed to U.T. had Kippy Brown been named interim? The recruits wanted a definate name as the new head coach.

I do think that recruiting class would have suffered, and will not argue that point. How bad is hard to say, but there would have been impact. Maybe we should not underestimate Kippy's ability to sell the University of Tennessee to those recruits versus a specific coach - I think the attrition would have been mitigated to an extent.

I will argue that it made no sense to put one recruiting class in front of hiring a proven coach. The Dooley hire was an enormous risk and now 2.5 years later we are reaping the 'rewards' of that hire.

I could certainly be wrong, but feel we would be in much better shape today by taking a hit to that recruiting class, and hiring a solid coach a little later.

 

[Blackmarket803]

Florida :jpshakehead:

 

[Jeepkuntry]

I wasn't the biggest supporter, I thought we should have really opened the check book up instead of trying to find a diamond in the rough. But when KY beat us, I knew he would not cut it. He's been outcoached numerous times!

 

[OrangeUTopia]

I had major doubts about him from day one. But last years KY game was the final straw for me. While I knew we'd have to give him at least three years it was just a matter of waiting it out. So far Dooley hasn't proven me wrong. This team isn't making progress. It's just the same ol same ol. The sooner he's gone the better imo. Realistically I know it'll likely be the end of the year, but I don't want to see him here come December.

 

[Rigga T]

It really sucks b/c I really like DD as a person... but the sad and obvious fact simply is that he isn't getting it done and neither is the rest of the coaching staff. The S&C coach seems to have a net positive.. but other than him... we need a coach that has outstanding character and class AND can switch to beast-mode when it comes to UT football and his players/other staff... AND can recruit his arse off nationwide AND has a proven record that can re-ignite our football program... and can beat GA, FLA, BAMA, and every other frickin' team in the SEC. I'll take good coaching and leadership for $800 Alex.

GBO! :td:

 

[shepDOG]

This last lost finally made me see he can't do it. Was a pitiful looking team considering it was after a 2 week break to practice for.

 

[Fighting Possum]

The question asks when did you want Dooley fired. This is very different than when did you decide he couldn't get it done. I went Miss St because I thought he deserved to keep his job if he went 9-4 losing only to top 10 teams Flat, UGA, Bama & USC. But I will say I had doubts after the Kentucky loss and was furious with him after the Florida loss.