Forcing People to Stay Home

[VOLINVONORE]

There are always thieves who want to steal valuable things including broadcasts. Trying to couch jealousy and thievery as "righteous indignation" is as old as Cain trying to excuse his attack on Abel.

Look, if you want to loot the nearest Best Buy because you "deserve" that TV and it's priced out of your means, have it at it.

Just don't expect me to agree about what you "deserve."

Disney has become the leader in ripping off for their own financial benefit. They can be regulated if the Government has the guts to do so.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Ya'll have seen my post many times, but I'll say it again. I was one of the last to have a grandfathered ticket. Had it since the 1980's. There are at most 8 home games a year out of 365 days. I'll pay what I have to to go. I do not tailgate; I take the school bus from Foothills Mall in Maryville to/from the game. It's just what I do. My single ticket has gone from ~300 in the '80s to almost 900 now. I just want to watch football live. (Do the same for Maryville High School games too).
BTW, my wife has no interest in football. She just has 8 Saturdays free.

Same for me except I have a pair of tickets. I have taken the bus from foothills ever since the started about 20 years ago. My kids and grand kids now use my tickets since, at age 86, I have difficulty in walking fro the bus up the hills to the stadium. A few years ago, if I had tickets I could not use, I would have a problem getting someone to take them.. Today, I have a lot of people who will pay a premium for tickets to any game. A lot of people have a lot more disposable money than I do. However, if/when the quality of our product declines, it is likely I will say good by to my tickets. I believe there are a number of people who are in a similar situation.

 

[MHS Rebel]

Same for me except I have a pair of tickets. I have taken the bus from foothills ever since the started about 20 years ago. My kids and grand kids now use my tickets since, at age 86, I have difficulty in walking fro the bus up the hills to the stadium. A few years ago, if I had tickets I could not use, I would have a problem getting someone to take them.. Today, I have a lot of people who will pay a premium for tickets to any game. A lot of people have a lot more disposable money than I do. However, if/when the quality of our product declines, it is likely I will say good by to my tickets. I believe there are a number of people who are in a similar situation.

I will keep going until I am physically unable to. I am 65 and still pretty agile. I will never give up my ticket and my son will take it over whenever I am unable.

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

DW pushed the pricing envelope when he added that 10% talent fee to season tickets but I'm sure they did the marketing research that it would not deter enough season ticket sales to matter.

As many have said on here capitalism's supply and demand drives prices for everything up or down. And that's a good thing. Without it, everything would be a monopoly. Economics 101.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I will keep going until I am physically unable to. I am 65 and still pretty agile. I will never give up my ticket and my son will take it over whenever I am unable.

Somehow, this topic has gotten twisted into things it never was to begin with. BUT, given how all strata of society has evolved into that type of. Dare I say it?? Preferred miscommunication and discommuncation, it's no surprise. Just look at our so-called leaders' behavior. On that note, the game of exploitation, and circumventing exploitation, is an ingrained part of human history. Whether you're talking about bankers taking advantage of struggling farmers, or Mafia bosses sucking cash from small businesses in the name of protection fees. Provoking creative ways to do an end run around such robbery. Feint, counter feint, Bonnie and Clyde, coal barons and their hired killers, the Pinkerton Detective agency, VS. redneck coal miners revolt. And the cycle continues in the current digital age. In truth, who is robbing who? More important is, why?

May the UT and its sports program remain wildly successful. And, the BVS folks, enjoy every freaking moment of it, in whatever way we want and can. We're a capitalist nation, after all, right??? Go Vols!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WoodsmanVol]

DW pushed the pricing envelope when he added that 10% talent fee to season tickets but I'm sure they did the marketing research that it would not deter enough season ticket sales to matter.

As many have said on here capitalism's supply and demand drives prices for everything up or down. And that's a good thing. Without it, everything would be a monopoly. Economics 101.

A monopoly is what DirecTV is seeking. So did Bell Telephone before it was broken up. So does Microsoft, but those stubborn LINUX, and ARCOS (OS/2), ReactOS, and others. CFB doesn't itself fit into this category, but people do react when they believe they have been pushed too far. Some folks here just can't perceive or overtly reject this reality. I hate to see it, but greed can't be surgically removed from humans, so the beat goes on.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Disney has become the leader in ripping off for their own financial benefit. They can be regulated if the Government has the guts to do so.

Disney is in business. They aren't a charity and they pay the conferences big money for the rights to the games hoping they get a return in ads and subscriptions.

What part of free enterprise bothers you?

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Looked at some tickets for the Vandy game since Nashville is closer and with fees tickets are about $200.

 

[Savannahbayvol]

I went to almost every game home and away from 67 -2000. What turned me off was not the ticket prices but jacking people around with TV games sometimes with the KO announced to the Monday before the game.

No fan base travels further and in larger quantity that college football fans of the Big teams. No other sports juggles the KO times like college football. And it's even worse with the little hole in the walls where many SEC teams are located. Hey I like Auburn but don't like trying to get out of there at midnight with 90,000 of my closest friends. And the 45 hotel rooms in Auburn are impossible to get at any price now for the visitors.

Pretty much the only places I have been to in this century are Eugene, Lexington, Atlanta, Nashville and Pittsburgh. We did go to Oxford and Starkville but were fortunate to have wonderful friends/relatives in both places to stay with. We were looking forward to going to Provo for the BYU game last year but of course it was cancelled. Do plan to catch Syracuse in M-B stadium next year.

 

[Behr]

I’m not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but I have always thought that some guys come on here and get cocky and brave because they can’t get away with acting like that way with the wife..lol

Lol, Not just the wives, but yes, absolutely agree with you 100%.

 

[Unconditional Surrender]

It is what it is. The dual income childless families that are everywhere now really make it hard for a family with kids to be able to afford to go. That's just the nature of our society right now.

 

[temptn]

Forcing People to Stay Home, I thought this was another Civic thread.​

 

[mackievol]

I think what the op is trying to say is he is a better fan and wants tickets for 30 dollars. Got news for you man, it's almost 10 bucks a person to get into a high school football game. Suck it up or stay at home and watch at home

 

[obxvol]

I don’t mind the ticket price. Supply and demand and frankly, I’m excited that we have a team, finally, that people want to see. I don’t go to the games because it’s not just the tickets. It’s the travel time, wear and tear on the car, hotel, meals, $13 beers, etc. etc. If I lived close enough to leave home, go to the game and then drive back home. I’d probably have season tickets.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Disney is in business. They aren't a charity and they pay the conferences big money for the rights to the games hoping they get a return in ads and subscriptions.

What part of free enterprise bothers you?

Disney is in business. They aren't a charity and they pay the conferences big money for the rights to the games hoping they get a return in ads and subscriptions.

What part of free enterprise bothers you?

Ever hear of the antitrust laws?

 

[JcVol865]

I don’t mind the ticket price. Supply and demand and frankly, I’m excited that we have a team, finally, that people want to see. I don’t go to the games because it’s not just the tickets. It’s the travel time, wear and tear on the car, hotel, meals, $13 beers, etc. etc. If I lived close enough to leave home, go to the game and then drive back home. I’d probably have season tickets.

We were lucky enough to get season tickets in 22. Luckily we live about 30 minutes from campus. We couldn’t afford to take our family of 5 if we didn’t have season tickets. I understand why people sell them for triple face value or more. Offset costs of the concessions

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Ever hear of the antitrust laws?

Yes, and Fox, NBC, CBS, etc are WELCOME to bid for the SEC media rights. It's good for competition and there IS competition which drove up our share of the pie at UT.

Stop acting like there's no competition. The new deal was negotiated a couple of years ago and LOTS of media companies had a seat at the table.

Fox has the B1G, I think. Notre Dame used to be CBS. I'm not sure who has the whatever is left of Longhorn Network or if it folded completely into the SEC Network. There are lots of conferences and lots of opportunities for media companies to buy the rights to broadcast.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Yes, and Fox, NBC, CBS, etc are WELCOME to bid for the SEC media rights. It's good for competition and there IS competition which drove up our share of the pie at UT.

Stop acting like there's no competition. The new deal was negotiated a couple of years ago and LOTS of media companies had a seat at the table.

Fox has the B1G, I think. Notre Dame used to be CBS. I'm not sure who has the whatever is left of Longhorn Network or if it folded completely into the SEC Network. There are lots of conferences and lots of opportunities for media companies to buy the rights to broadcast.

Disney is approaching the same degree of control of the sports world that Ma Bell did in the telephone steam. Ma bell was forced to break up into a number of smaller companies which now compete with each other. Disney is currently trying to to eliminate Direct TV refusing to neg in good faith thereby preventing Direct TV to broadcast games they broadcast. They are killing competition by overcharging companies like Direct TV. It is clear they continue to attempt to to force other TV providers from being able to afford to sta in business.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Disney is approaching the same degree of control of the sports world that Ma Bell did in the telephone steam. Ma bell was forced to break up into a number of smaller companies which now compete with each other. Disney is currently trying to to eliminate Direct TV refusing to neg in good faith thereby preventing Direct TV to broadcast games they broadcast. They are killing competition by overcharging companies like Direct TV. It is clear they continue to attempt to to force other TV providers from being able to afford to sta in business.

Disney is approaching the same degree of control of the sports world that Ma Bell did in the telephone steam. Ma bell was forced to break up into a number of smaller companies which now compete with each other. Disney is currently trying to to eliminate Direct TV refusing to neg in good faith thereby preventing Direct TV to broadcast games they broadcast. They are killing competition by overcharging companies like Direct TV. It is clear they continue to attempt to to force other TV providers from being able to afford to sta in business.

Then why did Disney have to pay the SEC $3Billion over 10 years for the rights? If they've got that much control, they shouldn't have competition to drive up the price to $300M / yr.

The huge media rights deals for sports should tell you: there's competition bidding up the prices.

Are they reselling it for big money? Indeed. And DirectTV and YouTubeTV go dark for a few days and pay up because the product is worth it.

I'm sorry you hate how America works. People buy things and resell them to make a profit.

If Fox bought it, they'd resell it. If CBS bought it, they'd resell it. It's called business.

 

[TennesseeTeeeeeee]

CFB ticket prices are already encouraging people to stay home rather than physically attend games at stadiums. The enticement of ever larger 4K & 8K TVs is adding to that encouragement. Eventually, they will price themselves out of the market. Tickets, travel costs, and whatever else fringe services get tacked on. All will force people to reconsider stadium attendance.

Another factor is the rise of streaming, undercutting satellite and cable service. Satellcables learning nothing from how their greed pushes people away, now seek a monopoly. Basically, limited customer choices and making it easier to bully customers with ever increasing fees. All with no avenue to do anything about it. But they are wrong, it will ignite defiance, and increase the birthrate of alternative access. Likely even outlaw underground, offshore, or perhaps balloon based streamers who resent the incessant greedy milking of customers. I even foresee creative hackers coming up with computerized capture and decrypting devices that hijack broadcast signals. People can be very imaginative when pushed into a corner and bullied long enough. Streamers had best be careful to not repeat the bullying of customers. Otherwise, face a similar fate.

The idea of gaining and keeping customer loyalty via fair play, pricing, superior service etc. doesn't factor in the minds of these tick-leeches. It's going to cost them long term. Just as people opt to stay home with their giant TVs, and streaming services, they will double down by cutting their Satellcable cables for alternative assess to watching CFB games.

I think the goal for the industry is to make the in-stadium experience better for the high paying donor with fewer people in the stadium because to your point, most people want to watch at home. That change costs A LOT of money. More money to change what’s there than to build new stadiums in many (most?) cases.

 

[Johnnyreb#VFL]

CFB halftimes 2028

 

[LordVOLdemort]

Buy season tickets. Ticketmaster prices don’t reflect what the University is actually making on tickets. Everyone likes a free economy until things get expensive…

 

[Fryinpansvols]

This is a great thread! I haven’t been in Neyland since 2018, when a customer gave me 4 tickets to the Mizzou game. Sadly, our Vols got blown out. That was my son’s first UT football game.

I go see them when they come to Nashville and play Candy.

I’m also going to Fayetteville this weekend. I got 2 tickets for $124. That’s a good deal!

It’s just gotten out of control what sporting events cost. I have a nice 65” tv in my bonus room. Plus, I’m at that busy stage of life with kids playing school sports.

 

[Fryinpansvols]

Speaking of ticket prices, anyone have an idea of how much tickets will cost to the Arkansas game? I live in Arkansas, so may be able to make it

They are very reasonable. I would call them cheap in today’s market. My son & I are driving over from Northern Middle Tennessee to Fayetteville on Saturday. I got my 2 tickets for $124 off of Seat Geek. That was the all in price. I’m sitting in Section 508.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I think the goal for the industry is to make the in-stadium experience better for the high paying donor with fewer people in the stadium because to your point, most people want to watch at home. That change costs A LOT of money. More money to change what’s there than to build new stadiums in many (most?) cases.

That's quite possible. I do think the motivation to stay h0me isn't just ticket prices. For those of us farther away, especially who must drive or fly across state lines, travel costs are a factor too. Meals, hotels, gas cost if driving, going both ways, going to returning home, that is. Local game day prices hikes. A shame because physical attendance holds a specialness all its own.

What about DirecTV seeking to become a monopoly?