Found out during worship yesterday....

[rjd970]

Free elections gave us a socialist president.

.....Not saying anything about free elections, just stating a fact for the hell of it.

 

[paul1454]

add Paul to your list

Should've never opened my big mouth :lolabove:

 

[T-TownVol]

Oh I know. If that was LG's point, then maybe we did reach different conclusions. I thought GS was somehow implying that our freedoms were a bad thing, seeing as how they were being "used against us." I thought you were agreeing with that.

Have you been attending the "I know what people are REALLY thinking" classes taught by LG?

 

[Sabanocchio]

No doubt they are using our open permissive society and culture against us.

While we permit the Saudi's to fund mosques all over America, in Saudi Arabia it is forbidden to own a Bible or even a cross.

Your life must be terrible! It seems that everyone is out to get you.

But seriously, Saudi Arabia's closed-mindedness is somehow our fault?

 

[rjd970]

Your life must be terrible! It seems that everyone is out to get you.

But seriously, Saudi Arabia's closed-mindedness is somehow our fault?

You're mistaken. There was no intent or purpose of any kind behind gsvol's post. He was just stating something for no apparent reason.

 

[lawgator1]

Have you been attending the "I know what people are REALLY thinking" classes taught by LG?

Even I laughed at that.

 

[Sabanocchio]

You're mistaken. There was no intent or purpose of any kind behind gsvol's post. He was just stating something for no apparent reason.

That's typical with many of his posts, but this one is just another in a long battle against anyone that doesn't think exactly like he does.

You're mistaken if you think he doesn't have an intent.

I would like to know the intent of the OP in creating this thread. Where is this uproar going to come from and what would be the objective?

 

[bam15]

Considering gsmcarthy's previous posts on the Islamic population, I don't blame LG for his inference.

 

[T-TownVol]

Considering gsmcarthy's previous posts on the Islamic population, I don't blame LG for his inference.

In my best church ladie's voice...."wellll, of course you don't"

 

[gsvol]

And?

What exactly is the alternative? I understand it is just a point you are making, but I'm unclear as to the purpose. Are you advocating a closed society?

First of all I'm advocating for us to educate ourselves about islam.

Several articles about the nature of islam.

First of all we need to cease to think of islam as merely a religion while equating it with other religions.

Islam is a political, moral, economic and legal system whose precepts are diametrically opposed to the western concepts of tolerance for religious freedom, economic freedom and jurisprudence and is incompatible and not disposed to any sort of peaceful co-existance over any extend period of time.

Here is some alarming fallout from just one mosque in America.

Recently the citizens of Switzerland voted to ban the building of any more minartes in that country, what do you think of that??

On a personal level I think it is just fine for any community to ban the building of a mosque, although unter the present political climate and inclination of the court system would certainly be an uphill battle for any particular community.

 

[Co. Aytch]

I am suprised Brentwood hasnt already had a mosque. Check out my hometown, Columbia, to see what happened down there.

Few drunk boys decided to go buy some gasoline and do the big fire thing. Took those cops less than a week to figure out who was the idiots. The video at the Kwik Sak showed them filling up a 5 gallon gas can.

Those boys got sentenced finally and are going to have to do 15 PLUS years for that night. That is some serious time. Hate crime or whatever they call it, no messing around, gets the nost serious sentences in this country.

But what was real nice was the way all the other churches in town helped out and came to support that mosque. It made me proud to know that we can all come together. Seriously, it was a nice moment for my little hometown.

 

[gsvol]

Pat Robertson?....is that you?

Or are you Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi??

OE should get a kick out of that.

 

[VolInMn]

First of all I'm advocating for us to educate ourselves about islam through the reading of materials that support my point of view.

ftfy.

 

[utvolpj]

come one, Jihadwatch and creepingsharia seem like completely unbiased sources

 

[JTrainDavis]

Why must we keep starting these threads that are destined to turn into flaming piles of dog ****?

C'mon folks, this is crazy. The same battle gets fought by the same half dozen people on either side in just about every thread on the politics forum.
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[Oldvol75]

Why must we keep starting these threads that are destined to turn into flaming piles of dog ****?

C'mon folks, this is crazy. The same battle gets fought by the same half dozen people on either side in just about every thread on the politics forum.
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Didn't you ever play Cowboys and Indians as a kid????

 

[gsvol]

guess we'll know for sure how this is going to turn out when the Imam is named. If he's a bomb-thrower (pun intended) like the Al-wacky guy Obama put a hit on, then it's going to cause problems.

I think the only universal thing about imans in America is that they exort everyone on the prayer rugs to bring forth finve children.

No point in talking about bomb throwing until you have sufficient numbers.

This is what they call the preparation phase.

Or jihad by migration, infiltration and population.

No, actually was hoping as a Christian that you weren't.

But you quoted gsvol and the tenor of it suggested that to me. You say that wasn't what you meant and I accept that.

I see signs from the Tea Parties along the lines of "This is a Christan Nation," or words to that effect. For the life of me, I can't think of any reason to tout that message at such a gathering other than to promote intolerance to other religions (and by that I mean to make it arbitrarily difficult for them to practice or coexist with Christianity).

I understand that basically all religions have at their core a claim that theirs is the only true religion and that people of other faiths are doomed. But I've always felt that premise was either read too strictly or at least that its one of those things where our own judgment of others is pointless.

Why don't you quit chewing on that mouthful of crap and spit something out.

You act like your prima donna brain is somehow capable of superior thinking.

NEWS FLASH, it ain't nothing special at all.

GS's comment said NOTHING about them being blocked/banned from our country. ONLY that they ban the Christians. Jeeze

My lifetime experience is that people like that are all frog until you meet them in person at which time they become all crawfish.

Oh I know. If that was LG's point, then maybe we did reach different conclusions. I thought GS was somehow implying that our freedoms were a bad thing, seeing as how they were being "used against us." I thought you were agreeing with that.

Really???

Free elections gave us a socialist president.

.....Not saying anything about free elections, just stating a fact for the hell of it.

You don't think there were millions who voted multiple times in that election???

I just asked for the hell of it.

 

[JTrainDavis]

Didn't you ever play Cowboys and Indians as a kid????

yep, we 'scalped' my little cousin on what happened to be the afternoon before school picture day. Needless to say, that didn't turn out too well for the Cheyenne nation.
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[gsvol]

ftfy.

Is that supposed to convey some sort of meaning??

Is it in code for morons?

come one, Jihadwatch and creepingsharia seem like completely unbiased sources

Jihadwatch just quotes you some from the quran.

Creepingsharia certainly isn't the only source reporting the islamic jamaat ul-fugra training camps in America.

Gates of Vienna: Jamaat ul-Fuqra in Virginia, Part 1

Most small town newspapers aren't on the internet.

 

[VolInMn]

Is that supposed to convey some sort of meaning??

Is it in code for morons?

ftfy = fixed that for you

It's obviously not in code for morons...

 

[hohenfelsvol]

This country was built on the principle of religious freedoms. It's one of the main reasons the first immigrants came here. Now, having said that, I don't trust many of the Islamic movements because of the extremists. Right, no, reality, yes. So, let them build and let them pray.

But don't let me find out you are plotting because so help me God...

 

[gsvol]

Considering gsmcarthy's previous posts on the Islamic population, I don't blame LG for his inference.

Just keep in mind ACLG isn't man enough to reply to any of my posts directly, the best he is capable of is cheap personal shots.

I am suprised Brentwood hasnt already had a mosque. Check out my hometown, Columbia, to see what happened down there.

Few drunk boys decided to go buy some gasoline and do the big fire thing. Took those cops less than a week to figure out who was the idiots. The video at the Kwik Sak showed them filling up a 5 gallon gas can.

Those boys got sentenced finally and are going to have to do 15 PLUS years for that night. That is some serious time. Hate crime or whatever they call it, no messing around, gets the nost serious sentences in this country.

But what was real nice was the way all the other churches in town helped out and came to support that mosque. It made me proud to know that we can all come together. Seriously, it was a nice moment for my little hometown.

I suppose they are in a federal pen.

What seems crazy to me is that it is a hate crime to tell the truth about islam but people like William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farakhan can indulge in the lowest form of hateful speech and it's exercising their first amendment right.

Just recently in Kenya, muslim rioters burned down hundreds of churches, some with the people still inside.

Never forget, of all the religions of the world, only islam has such an ugly side.

 

[utvolpj]

the best he is capable of is cheap personal shots.

oh come on

is that supposed to convey some sort of meaning??

Is it in code for morons?

 

[gsvol]

Why must we keep starting these threads that are destined to turn into flaming piles of dog ****?

C'mon folks, this is crazy. The same battle gets fought by the same half dozen people on either side in just about every thread on the politics forum.
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I can imagine one of ACLG's threads must be a veritable treasure house of the brilliant intellectual exchange of ideas.

This country was built on the principle of religious freedoms. It's one of the main reasons the first immigrants came here. Now, having said that, I don't trust many of the Islamic movements because of the extremists. Right, no, reality, yes. So, let them build and let them pray.

But don't let me find out you are plotting because so help me God...

There is a huge difference, many PEOPLE migrated to these shores, some of them in hopes of achieving religious freedom, that much is true, but it is NOT true of muslims.

Their basic motivation is the islamic form of jihad called 'hijra.'

From their carefully delineated treatise on Hijra, it is clear that migration in concert with military conquest comprise the bookends of Islamic expansionism.

"Solomon and Al Maqdisi review the phases of the Hijra and its juristic or legal basis in Islamic doctrine. Under the cover of taqiyya or deception, the step-by-step methodology of the migration process is designed to subdue, then, subjugate the host culture, culminating in implementation of shariah law."

The contencious doctrine of Yusuf al-Qaradawi is far from being isolated in the world of islam, on the contrary this is core to their belief. And this isn't something that just started with 9/11, islamic leaders have been saying much the same back to at least the 1920s.

This means that Islam will come back to Europe for the third time, after it was expelled from it twice… Conquest through Da'wa [proselytizing], that is what we hope for. We will conquer Europe, we will conquer America! Not through sword but through Da'wa.

Read more at: Yusuf al-Qaradawi :: Apologists or Extremists :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism

oh come on

More on Sheikh Mubarik Ali Hasmi Shah Gilani and Jamaat al-Fuqra in America.

Now is that unbiased enough to suit your particular tastes??

excerpt;

FUQRA'S violence gained wider public notice in 1989, when police, seeking evidence in a series of thefts, searched a storage locker in Colorado Springs. They found a remarkable trove of armaments and documents, with multiple links to Fuqra.

Among the handguns, semi-automatic firearms, more than 30 pounds of explosives, pipe bombs, and bomb components were several bombs of an unusual design identical to that of a device recovered from the firebombed Hare Krishna temple in Denver. There was a large photo of Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind cleric who would be convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and target silhouettes labeled FBI Anti-Terrorist Team, Zionist Pig, Delta Team, and SAS (British Special Air Service), on which were found the fingerprints of James Donald Williams, Fuqra chief for Colorado, and the handwriting of Vincente Rafael Pierre (of whom more later). There were blank birth certificates, Social Security cards, and several sets of Colorado driver's licenses bearing identical photos but various names.

What if there were some group with 40 training camps for the likes of those two knuckleheads to tried to burn down an islamic prosletizing center in Columbia, don't you think BATFE would be all over them like stink on a skunk??

But there seem to be about 40 Jamaat al-Fuqra hamaats in America and we take a completely pollyannaish attitude toward them.

Doesn't exactly make sense to me, does it to you??

As a matter of fact Slick Willy is just making a well publicised warning about right wing extremism in America, citing the OKC bombing while totally ignoring that although they had a lilly white fall guy in that horrible event, muslims were neck deep in there involvement from planning to implemenatation.

ftfy = fixed that for you

It's obviously not in code for morons...

When did you transfer to the maintenance dept??

Get tired of being a thought policeman??

With all due respect, henceforth

I shall refer to you as Mr Fixit.

 

[VolInMn]

When did you transfer to the maintenance dept??

Get tired of being a thought policeman??

With all due respect, henceforth I shall refer to you as Mr Fixit.

Naw, being a Though Policeman is still my day job.

The maintenance thing is just a night job so I can afford to keep collecting my Lenin mementos. I transferred over there from the firearm reclamation department after the last guy quit because he got tired of following you around cleaning up steaming piles of shiat all the time.

Mr. Fixit at your service. :hi: