Four Guard Line-Ups

#52
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zjcvols said:
It should have been emphasized from the beginning. We are in year 6 and Barnes always talks about pushing the pace but his teams don’t do it. So it’s not just a players thing lol.

They’ve also made a couple nice adjustments on offense. Less emphasis on posts up and midrange game, more emphasis on creating driving lanes. It’s giving UT more space.
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Ah...the 'ol omniscient poster strategy...lol

 
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MinisterofDef#92 said:
Posting this again as have others...good thing CRB has players willing to fall on the sword to cover for his poor coaching. LMAO

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You thing two freshmen who are well reported to be great guys are gonna throw a 30 year head coach under the bus? “Look we’ve been telling Barnes to let us run all year but the old man won’t do it till this week.”

None of Barnes’ team at Tennessee have ever consistently push the pace. Every single year Barnes has been at UT it’s been the same thing. Preseason comes around and Barnes says “I want to push the pace.” They don’t push the pace. They do for a few games later in the year. Then in postseason plays he slows them down again.
 
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zjcvols said:
You thing two freshmen who are well reported to be great guys are gonna throw a 30 year head coach under the bus? “Look we’ve been telling Barnes to let us run all year but the old man won’t do it till this week.”

None of Barnes’ team at Tennessee have ever consistently push the pace. Every single year Barnes has been at UT it’s been the same thing. Preseason comes around and Barnes says “I want to push the pace.” They don’t push the pace. They do for a few games later in the year. Then in postseason plays he slows them down again.
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I remember Barnes getting on Bone for not pushing the ball. I think it depends on who he has driving the bus. He wants fast play and scoring opportunities in transition but not if the pace is out of control. I doubt that he ever wants anybody to slow down if they are ready to run. He doesn’t want forced shots.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I remember Barnes getting on Bone for not pushing the ball. I think it depends on who he has driving the bus. He wants fast play and scoring opportunities in transition but not if the pace is out of control. I doubt that he ever wants anybody to slow down if they are ready to run. He doesn’t want forced shots.
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I don’t mind a couple forced shots a game in transition if the pace is consistent. I’d rather have a fast pace or consistent pace instead of pulling the team back because every shot “has to be a good one”.
 
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zjcvols said:
You thing two freshmen who are well reported to be great guys are gonna throw a 30 year head coach under the bus? “Look we’ve been telling Barnes to let us run all year but the old man won’t do it till this week.”

None of Barnes’ team at Tennessee have ever consistently push the pace. Every single year Barnes has been at UT it’s been the same thing. Preseason comes around and Barnes says “I want to push the pace.” They don’t push the pace. They do for a few games later in the year. Then in postseason plays he slows them down again.
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I don’t think they’d go out of their way to mention that Barnes has been trying to get them to play like this all year and that they’ve been too focused on trying to always run a play rather than run. Both guys mentioned it without really being baited into answering that way, they easily could’ve answered differently.
 
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A SV, KJ, JS, JJJ, Pons lineup has a very good rating, but only 20 possessions. Probably deserves a better look
 
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Lankykong said:
I thought Fulk played well even though he didn’t get many points against GA
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I agree. He certainly wasn't spectacular but was active and solid. He scored four points on two shots, had four assists and 8 rebounds. There are gonna be games that we need him to contribute offensively but in that game it wasn't needed and he played his role.
 
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zjcvols said:
You thing two freshmen who are well reported to be great guys are gonna throw a 30 year head coach under the bus? “Look we’ve been telling Barnes to let us run all year but the old man won’t do it till this week.”

None of Barnes’ team at Tennessee have ever consistently push the pace. Every single year Barnes has been at UT it’s been the same thing. Preseason comes around and Barnes says “I want to push the pace.” They don’t push the pace. They do for a few games later in the year. Then in postseason plays he slows them down again.
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No, I think the most probable scenario is that the two freshmen who are reported to be great guys are...wait for it, telling the truth...lol.

Regarding past teams, I remember Bone being taken out because he did not push the ball up the court by either passing or getting a touch in the lane. If I had to guess as to why past teams haven't pushed the ball more although CRB consistently stating he wants them to, I would say that most players struggle with pushing the ball and not turning it over which they know will limit their playing time under CRB (rightfully so IMO as the two concepts are not mutually exclusive). I would also argue we haven't had the athletes with the confidence to do so on a regular basis (other than Bone who finally figured it out his last season).
 
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I think it's a calculated, personality/values thing which typically results in a trade-off.

So Barnes would rather have players who are unselfish and eager to learn--but have to be admonished to push the ball and take their shots--than to have the more usual 5-star players who have to be admonished to listen, learn, slow down, and pass the ball.

Cal's coaching specialty is the latter. I'm glad we have Barnes, and I prefer to be supporting his kind of players.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
I think it's a calculated, personality/values thing which typically results in a trade-off.

So Barnes would rather have players who are unselfish and eager to learn--but have to be admonished to push the ball and take their shots--than to have the more usual 5-star players who have to be admonished to listen, learn, slow down, and pass the ball.

Cal's coaching specialty is the latter. I'm glad we have Barnes, and I prefer to be supporting his kind of players.
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Not sure why those things are mutually exclusive.
 
#75
#75
omghulkhands said:
Vescovi, Springer and Johnson need their minutes tied to each other. Vescovi has to be guarded on the perimeter so it gives more space for Springer and Johnson to drive.
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I agree and with JJJ, Pons/Fulk is our best line-up, imo
 
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