Fulmer to Colorado?

#27
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kptvol said:
So he'll hire some assistants that have recruiting inroads in surrounding areas. That was Kiffin's strategy. Even as bad as Colorado is, I don't think competing in the Big 12 North is that tough of a proposition.
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If you're comparing the ability to hire assitant coaches that Lane Kiffin has to a guy whose best accomplishments were at Grand Valley State, you might want to take a breath before you post again.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If you're comparing the ability to hire assitant coaches that Lane Kiffin has to a guy whose best accomplishments were at Grand Valley State, you might want to take a breath before you post again.
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Good thing I'm not.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
He doesn't have to be that good. He's more than content to sit back and let Ohio State fight it out with USC, Texas, Penn State, et al for the elite players while bringing in pretty much everyone else from the state of Ohio. Notre Dame used to get the best kids from Cincinnati with Ohio State getting the best non-Catholics; both now have to compete with UC. And with the ties getting stronger every passing year, they'll have their pick of one of the best cities for high school football in the country for years to come.

And if Pitt hasn't fired Wannstedt by this point, I have to seriously wonder if they're ever going to. He's like Bill Callahan meets Geraldo.
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The day the truly elite players from Moeller, et al go to UC will be the day monkeys fly out my arse. They went to a BCS bowl last year and produced a recruiting class on par with Vanderbilt. It's never happening in football at UC. Ever.
 
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kptvol said:
Good thing I'm not.
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You said Kelly could hire guys who have ties to those areas and be fine. To get guys who can get you good enough players in that league, you better have some juice. Gary Patterson of Todd Graham would beat Brian Kelly every time hiring assistants. Kelly has been defined in his profession. Cincinnati is as goos as he's ever going to do.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Hawkins must have thought it was intramurals when he named his talent free son the QB.
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Or pee-wee ball.

In any case, I think Hawkins didn't know what he had at Boise State. Or Peterson is the better of those two coaches. I don't know which.
 
#35
#35
hatvol96 said:
He didn't fill one of the vacancies last year for the same reason Bruce Pearl didn't go to Arizona. For all his behind the scenes lobbying, no AD was willing to risk their career on him.
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...or it could have been the fact that Kelly's contract buyout would have been $1 million had he left before either January 15th or January 31st. Either way, waiting that long to hire a coach just to avoid that buyout would have killed recruiting in the final weeks leading up to NSD...
 
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#36
The title of this thread is very misleading. Please change it. I was lead to believe that there was some sort of informative article or rumor that would believe you to think he is going to Colorado. :nono:
 
#37
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volfanatic74 said:
If Fulmer can lose to Wyoming with the players that UT recriuts, I don't think he can win at Colorado either.
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So along that same line of though, since rich rod lost to toledo, he's doomed to failures and say 5 win seasons at michigan or wherever else he goes?
 
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TrueOrange said:
So along that same line of though, since rich rod lost to toledo, he's doomed to failures and say 5 win seasons at michigan or wherever else he goes?
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Well, that's different. The players that Fulmer coached fit into his "system". The players that Rich Rod had last year didn't fit at all into his system.
 
#39
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hatvol96 said:
The day the truly elite players from Moeller, et al go to UC will be the day monkeys fly out my arse. They went to a BCS bowl last year and produced a recruiting class on par with Vanderbilt. It's never happening in football at UC. Ever.
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If there's one thing that the last few years have taught any one of us, it's that recruiting rankings are largely a joke anyway.

UC has 15 commitments for 2010, 12 of which are from Ohio and 9 of which are from the Cincinnati area. This isn't the old days, when the Catholic school kids who couldn't get into Notre Dame went to Boston College or the public school kids who couldn't go to Ohio State would go somewhere in the Big Ten. I don't expect the kids from Moeller, St. X, or Elder to start flocking en masse to UC. I do see a much greater number of top-level public school kids going there with the occasional Catholic schooler thrown in for good measure. They also have the longtime coach of Colerain (Kerry Coombs) on staff handling a lot of recruiting.

We'll see how it ends up.
 
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TrueOrange said:
So along that same line of though, since rich rod lost to toledo, he's doomed to failures and say 5 win seasons at michigan or wherever else he goes?
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If Rich Rod had the same record as Fulmer over the last decade while at the same school with his system firmly in place, would you hire him? To compare Fulmer at UT to Roch Rod at Michigan is asinine and you know it. Not to mention raking in highly ranked classes the whole time. I will bold that little fact since you so conveniently left it out when you "quoted" me.
 
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FlawlessVictory said:
The title of this thread is very misleading. Please change it. I was lead to believe that there was some sort of informative article or rumor that would believe you to think he is going to Colorado. :nono:
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Seriously? A question mark implies that the words preceding it are not declaratory but rather are uncertain or speculative.
:eek:k:
 
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#42
But there is no evidence. He has shown no interest in Colorado, and Colorado has shown no interest in Fulmer. End of story. So you just created a thread based off nothing but a "what if ?"


Would Fulmer be a good fit at Colorado ?


Good example of what this title thread shouldbe in my opinion. Not misleading at all.
 
#43
#43
Colorado got blasted today by a Mountain West opponent. Fulmer wants to get back into coaching badly. He said he wants to go somewhere that is committed to winning championships. Back in the promise keepers era Rick Neiuheisal and Gary Barnett upgraded the facilities a lot.

1 Big 12 conference championship (2001), 4 Big 12 North Division Championships (2001, 2002, 2004, 2005), and an Associated Press National Championship (1990).

That is Fulmers speed. He would be competing against Kansas year in and year out. Finishing second in the Big 12 North would be easier than in many places. The Buffs have good NFL alumni.

The CU job is one of the better ones I think Fulmer would have a chance at. Not that many name coaches would take it. It has been tarnished by the horrible stewardship of Dan Hawkins who is melting down currently.

Hatvol hates Fulmer passionately but I think Phil could make it work. He can show his National Championship ring and he can recruit California and Texas kids. It is a gorgeous campus, nice girls, nice relaxed atmosphere, professors who help athletes with learning disabilities etc. He will not make it a top 10 program, but he could help a program that is number 16 all time in wins get back towards the top 25, as the team ranked below Nebraska in the north instead of Kansas. Trust me, selling Knoxville over Alabama and UF is a whole heck of a lot harder than selling CU over KU and Missouri for a college football coach.
 
#45
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FlawlessVictory said:
But there is no evidence. He has shown no interest in Colorado, and Colorado has shown no interest in Fulmer. End of story. So you just created a thread based off nothing but a "what if ?"


Would Fulmer be a good fit at Colorado ?


Good example of what this title thread shouldbe in my opinion. Not misleading at all.
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Did you see the question mark in the thread title?

And did you really, really believe Fulmer was going to Colorado? :ermm:
 
#46
#46
You underestimate Phil's incredible ability to let championship caliber athletes go to mediocre asshats in the span of a collegiate career.
 
#47
#47
Rasputin_Vol said:
Did you see the question mark in the thread title?

And did you really, really believe Fulmer was going to Colorado? :ermm:
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No I believed that was an article that hinted that there is some sort of interest in one or both parties.
 
#48
#48
MikeHamiltonFan said:
Colorado got blasted today by a Mountain West opponent. Fulmer wants to get back into coaching badly. He said he wants to go somewhere that is committed to winning championships. Back in the promise keepers era Rick Neiuheisal and Gary Barnett upgraded the facilities a lot.

1 Big 12 conference championship (2001), 4 Big 12 North Division Championships (2001, 2002, 2004, 2005), and an Associated Press National Championship (1990).

That is Fulmers speed. He would be competing against Kansas year in and year out. Finishing second in the Big 12 North would be easier than in many places. The Buffs have good NFL alumni.

The CU job is one of the better ones I think Fulmer would have a chance at. Not that many name coaches would take it. It has been tarnished by the horrible stewardship of Dan Hawkins who is melting down currently.

Hatvol hates Fulmer passionately but I think Phil could make it work. He can show his National Championship ring and he can recruit California and Texas kids. It is a gorgeous campus, nice girls, nice relaxed atmosphere, professors who help athletes with learning disabilities etc. He will not make it a top 10 program, but he could help a program that is number 16 all time in wins get back towards the top 25, as the team ranked below Nebraska in the north instead of Kansas. Trust me, selling Knoxville over Alabama and UF is a whole heck of a lot harder than selling CU over KU and Missouri for a college football coach.
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Colorado wouldn't even have him in their top 5 candidates.
 
#49
#49
Hell he couldn't win at Tennessee with top recruiting classes, how is gonna tread water at Boulder.

Hawkins has got the rest of the season to keep his job, but this.......
Bill McCartney flat ruined it for everyone else who will come to Boulder, unless they somehow catch the next Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops on the way up. What has become The Failed Coach's M.O. would get him fired just as fast as Hawkins.
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pretty much sums it up.
 
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