Fulmer will never fire Holly

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Volfan2012 said:
The question is how many did you expect this team to win when the season started. Was an undefeated season the goal. 24 and 5 or 22 and 7 or what? We could've won the game but we didn't because mainly 28 turnovers and terrible defense. This is going to happen during the season especially on the road against a top ten team.
We don't have a leader Nared and Russell are not leaders they are just seniors that are good players. They play hard but have no knowledge of how to fix our play when things go wrong or when the other coach makes a move. They like the freshmen just keep doing what the original game plan called for whether it is working or not. In their four years with Holly they have not been able to gain the knowledge of how to adjust the team when the opposing coach makes an adjustment. Our failure to adjust to what Notre Dame was doing on defense caused a lot of our turnovers and bad passes. I like both players but they both should know how to attack a defense regardless of what adjustments the coach of the other team makes. No ability to adjust on defense either. Not having a leader that can do that on the floor is why in some games we'll fail because basketball is being able to constantly adjust and find weaknesses in the defense I haven't seen either of these seniors capable of making these adjustments.
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I believe you are charging Nared and Russell with Holly's responsibility. I agree with your assessment of these two young women. However, please don't charge them with the head coach's responsibility.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
No ability to adjust on defense either. Not having a leader that can do that on the floor is why in some games we'll fail because basketball is being able to constantly adjust and find weaknesses in the defense I haven't seen either of these seniors capable of making these adjustments.
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Seriously? It's not the players' responsibility to adjust to the defense. It's our very well-(over)paid coach's job....
 
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Voltopia said:
16-2 is 16-2. I'm not going to holler for Warlick to be fired at 16-2. They have many successful games compared to their losses, so ... wanting her fired to me seems entirely overblown. The point is to get better. I would only get grumpy if they don't find a way to learn and get better. Perhaps they will learn.
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No, it's not.
 
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Holly got the job because coach Summitt wanted her to have it. But I question that move because of her on set dementia. Figuratively speaking that is.

Holly has proven with her actions and words that she's not capable of coaching The Lady Vols to success.

This should be her last season at the helm if the LVs do not make it to the Final Four.
 
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teacherdean said:
Holly will never get fired as long as she occasionally makes it to the elite eight. There are women basketball coaches that have been at their institutions for years but do not have the NCAA record that Holly has had in 6 years. They also do not have Holly’s winning percentage. Holly may not be a top ten coach but she wins enough to have job security. Unless the Lady Vols program crash and burn, Holly will remain in her head coach position.
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Holly lost in the 2nd round last season to Louisville.
She should had been fired then.
But she's still our coach.
We all just need to shut up about it.

I roll with Holly. :eek:lol:

GOLadyVols! :unsure:
 
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teacherdean said:
Holly will never get fired as long as she occasionally makes it to the elite eight. There are women basketball coaches that have been at their institutions for years but do not have the NCAA record that Holly has had in 6 years. They also do not have Holly’s winning percentage. Holly may not be a top ten coach but she wins enough to have job security. Unless the Lady Vols program crash and burn, Holly will remain in her head coach position.
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This is absolute truth and I no longer expect us to ever be an elite team. I used to really care but I discovered that most fans are comfortable about where we are and wont' tolerate any criticism.
 
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T.J. said:
Holly lost in the 2nd round last season to Louisville.
She should had been fired then.
But she's still our coach.
We all just need to shut up about it.

I roll with Holly. :eek:lol:

GOLadyVols! :unsure:
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Downhill!
 
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madtownvol said:
It was a terrible tragedy that CPS was stricken with a degenerative brain disease but that is the issue. The transition had to happen as it did because of her declining capacities and need to reduce the demands placed on her.

We will probably never know just when her decline began but the era of LV dominance began to slide when "the baby vol" class arrived. They were a talented group but they never really gelled as an elite team, though showing some flashes of brilliance on occasion, and never making it to a final four. And we can also question a recruiting plan that left the LVs so dependent on freshman without having replenished more when the team was flying high with CP3.

Also, lets not forget that there had been a lot of talk that game may have passed CPS by in the years between the Meek team and the arrival of Candace Parker.

But the landscape of women's B-ball has changed, the past is just that and pining about the good ole days is a pointless exercise.
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I have to say that I don't remember that talk at all... and only idiots would have been having it anyway. Those years would have been between 2000-2004. Tennessee made the Championship game 3 times out of those 5 seasons. They just couldn't beat UConn (primarily because of Taurasi)... and they also had a bad break with the injury to Catchings in '01.
 
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skinnytom said:
I want holly to do well, I really do. She is not the best floor coach. I can live with her as our coach. However, she needs to take "I don't know" ,completely out of her vocabulary. Period...
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Why do we "have" to live with her? Tennessee has the resources and history to go after and hire one of if not the best coach available. The LV should be in the mix for NC on a regular basis. Time to hire a Pat in spirit that doesn't accept mediocrity.
 
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Martic said:
But we all seem to forget that after 2008 we were not dominant. Pat was a great great coach but the landscape had changed. Look at the Championships she lost to Geno. Just trying to point out a few things not denigrate anything Pat accomplished.
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Mickie DeMoss noted it was very clear to her when she came back in 2010 that Pat was not the same, which means that she had been deteriorating for some time by then. I don't think the game would've passed her by had she not gotten dementia and would still be going strong now. Keep in mind she was younger than Coach K and only two years older than Geno.

In fact, I'll bet she was even affected some during the title years. It was incredibly cruel to have that happen to her and robbed her of certain future success.
 
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Probably will get to the final 8 in the tournament. Won’t win the SEC obviously. It will be respectable but Holly will never beat UConn or Mississippi St (specifically) this year. Fixed just for you ⬇️
 
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vol-un-tear said:
Probably will get to the final 8 in the tournament. Won’t win the SEC obviously. It will be respectable but Holly will never beat UConn or Mississippi St.
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Really? Who was on the big end of that 82 to 64 score at the Hump on 2/26/17. Good job of keeping up there Sparky. :crazy:
 
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I don't think Holly will be fired because she will win enough games to not be fired. Will she win at a championship level. Who knows, but she won enough not counting the DD years that no AD would fire her if she continues to win at that rate. I can't see the team just falling flat and being non competitive. If it does, a change will be made but until then, people may as well get used to Holly being the head coach. GO LADY VOLS!
 
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Orange Maniac said:
I don't think Holly will be fired because she will win enough games to not be fired. Will she win at a championship level. Who knows, but she won enough not counting the DD years that no AD would fire her if she continues to win at that rate. I can't see the team just falling flat and being non competitive. If it does, a change will be made but until then, people may as well get used to Holly being the head coach. GO LADY VOLS!
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Please promote Holly to the position of the female AD. She loves UT the same way Fulmer does!
 
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alaVOL said:
Why do we "have" to live with her? Tennessee has the resources and history to go after and hire one of if not the best coach available. The LV should be in the mix for NC on a regular basis. Time to hire a Pat in spirit that doesn't accept mediocrity.
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That's the same thing the football people thought and look how that turned out. If they go that route I hope they have all their ducks in a row!
 
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Coaching is huge in ladies basketball. All u need is to look at uconn.They aren't that much better talent wise...but would most likely beat us by 20-30 points.. No matter how much talent we have. Ill gladly eat a big plate of crow if we made a game of it with them
 
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