Future Game at Bristol Motor Speedway

#27
#27
When I see this in an article about that game:
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I want to strangle the reporter. All this talk about a "Record college football crowd"..

Guess what?

Peewee team has never drawn that much.
Jr. High school team has never drawn that much.
High school team has never drawn that much.
Only two college teams that have are UT and VT
And.....

The NFL has never drawn that much.

Why don't they just come out and say the fact. That is, leave the word college off. This was the most people to ever watch a football game in person. PERIOD. That takes in all the people that have ever played a football game in the whole world since the dawn of time.

(am I wrong?)
 
#29
#29
If they were to do it again, Penn State seems like the best opponent to me. I could also see West Virginia or Ohio State.
 
#36
#36
Curious if anyone has heard if perhaps there will be a future game at Bristol. If so, who would be the opponent. Or was this a one and done from 2016. Who would you guys like to see match up against our Vols?
Please no. That was a cluster f…
 
#39
#39
Was fortunate to have good seats, and was still forever away from the field.... Had these 2 loudmouths in the booth next to us and they just wouldn't shut up. Talked the entire game. :) I would absolutely do it again. See Lyle on their monitor saying something clever I am sure?
 

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#41
#41
The camping atmosphere reminded me of the Quidich World Cup scene in Harry Potter.....tents as far as you could see in all directions.
 
#42
#42
We'd be doing it before they joined the conference, like a preview.

You think the ACC is gonna make it to 2027 in it's current iteration-at the earliest? I doubt the current lineup sees 2026 to be blunt.

Event of that magnitude is going to have to be scheduled 4 years out a minimum. The last one was scheduled like 3.75 years out. For two schools a couple hundred miles apart.

No AD is going to be paying much time to scheduling from this point until January., 2024. Nature of the beast that is big time CFB now. Using the same timeline would put a potential matchup in 2027 at the earliest. At least on the UT side I would doubt we would even consider it until after the SEC changes its schedule around-which will probably be summer of next year at the earliest. Which leads into football season and makes January 2025 the earliest possible time to even begin negotiating the game for a 2028 date and so on and so forth.
 
#43
#43
You think the ACC is gonna make it to 2027 in it's current iteration-at the earliest? I doubt the current lineup sees 2026 to be blunt.

Event of that magnitude is going to have to be scheduled 4 years out a minimum. The last one was scheduled like 3.75 years out. For two schools a couple hundred miles apart.

No AD is going to be paying much time to scheduling from this point until January., 2024. Nature of the beast that is big time CFB now. Using the same timeline would put a potential matchup in 2027 at the earliest. At least on the UT side I would doubt we would even consider it until after the SEC changes its schedule around-which will probably be summer of next year at the earliest. Which leads into football season and makes January 2025 the earliest possible time to even begin negotiating the game for a 2028 date and so on and so forth.
Given that the SEC won't be looking to expand for a few years after Texas and Oklahoma officially come on board in 2024, the ACC contract runs until 2036, and the other 2 major conferences just expanded, yes, I think it'll survive 4 more years. They may have a team or two willing to pay the 120 million + possible litigation to leave early in that time(FSU most likely) . But that wouldn't kill the conference on its own.
 
#44
#44
Given that the SEC won't be looking to expand for a few years after Texas and Oklahoma officially come on board in 2024, the ACC contract runs until 2036, and the other 2 major conferences just expanded, yes, I think it'll survive 4 more years. They may have a team or two willing to pay the 120 million + possible litigation to leave early in that time(FSU most likely) . But that wouldn't kill the conference on its own.

If FSU goes-its over at least as a power whatever conference. 6 or so other schools would be right behind them. ACC would be at G5 level.

None of that is gonna happen without a wink wink nod nod agreement from the SEC/B10 of who is going where.

You really think 150K people are gonna trek to Bristol to see UT play Wake Forest or some godforsaken school?

Notice how the ACC was supposed to be meeting few nights ago to add Stanford, Cal, SMU? That news story didn't materialize did it? Maybe it still works out to add them, but it's bailing water out of a sinking ship by this point anyway.

Next summer or summer of 25 at latest the ACC is going to be fighting for their lives. Only way they can save themselves is convincing ND to join as a full member. The Irish will not. ACC blows up. SEC and B10 then put the screws to the Irish-basically telling them either pick a side or a playoff birth will never happen again. ND is in the B10 by 2030.
 
#45
#45
If FSU goes-its over at least as a power whatever conference. 6 or so other schools would be right behind them. ACC would be at G5 level.

None of that is gonna happen without a wink wink nod nod agreement from the SEC/B10 of who is going where.

You really think 150K people are gonna trek to Bristol to see UT play Wake Forest or some godforsaken school?

Notice how the ACC was supposed to be meeting few nights ago to add Stanford, Cal, SMU? That news story didn't materialize did it? Maybe it still works out to add them, but it's bailing water out of a sinking ship by this point anyway.

Next summer or summer of 25 at latest the ACC is going to be fighting for their lives. Only way they can save themselves is convincing ND to join as a full member. The Irish will not. ACC blows up. SEC and B10 then put the screws to the Irish-basically telling them either pick a side or a playoff birth will never happen again. ND is in the B10 by 2030.
Who said anything about Wake Forrest? LOL

I don't think the SEC has any financial incentive to add FSU that fast. The buyout will be to much and they don't add TV markets to the SEC. It would just dilute the ESPN revenue the schools split. I don't think any of the 14 other schools jump without a place to land either.
 
#46
#46
Who said anything about Wake Forrest? LOL

I don't think the SEC has any financial incentive to add FSU that fast. The buyout will be to much and they don't add TV markets to the SEC. It would just dilute the ESPN revenue the schools split. I don't think any of the 14 other schools jump without a place to land either.

CFB is the proverbial opiate of the masses right now. Will it be in a decade? Probably? Maybe?

Point being right now is the time to jump if you're gonna come off the porch. The opportunity cost of doing nothing is substantial. This will all be done with ESPN/Fox approval and backing. Yes, I know they're screaming poverty. Opportunity comes up to add an FSU/Clemson/UNC trust me they will find the money somewhere to sweeten the pot.

I bloody hate FSU/Clemson. Want them in the SEC like I would want my mother in law riding with me cross country. They may very well go to the B10. Doesn't matter. One way or another, they gone.

I agree though that they will not leave without an invite, but as I said that's gonna be a wink wink nod nod thing. Once they're out, here's your formal invitation sir.
 
#47
#47
CFB is the proverbial opiate of the masses right now. Will it be in a decade? Probably? Maybe?

Point being right now is the time to jump if you're gonna come off the porch. The opportunity cost of doing nothing is substantial. This will all be done with ESPN/Fox approval and backing. Yes, I know they're screaming poverty. Opportunity comes up to add an FSU/Clemson/UNC trust me they will find the money somewhere to sweeten the pot.

I bloody hate FSU/Clemson. Want them in the SEC like I would want my mother in law riding with me cross country. They may very well go to the B10. Doesn't matter. One way or another, they gone.

I agree though that they will not leave without an invite, but as I said that's gonna be a wink wink nod nod thing. Once they're out, here's your formal invitation sir.
The SEC doesn't raise revenue by adding FSU unless they can find a way out of the ACC with their TV right through 2036 intact. Even if they do, FSU/UNC/Clemson can likely afford the buyout. But the other 12 schools probably can't. I'm saying 5 years minimum before the conference implodes, if it does at all. The 3 mentioned schools could get out before then though. Besides UNC is probably the most attractive of the 3 for the SEC, not FSU.
 
#48
#48
The SEC doesn't raise revenue by adding FSU unless they can find a way out of the ACC with their TV right through 2036 intact. Even if they do, FSU/UNC/Clemson can likely afford the buyout. But the other 12 schools probably can't. I'm saying 5 years minimum before the conference implodes, if it does at all. The 3 mentioned schools could get out before then though. Besides UNC is probably the most attractive of the 3 for the SEC, not FSU.

Why do you think there is a holdup with adding the three other schools to the ACC?

If 7-8 schools (with current setup) decide they want to leave and can find homes, the GOR becomes only academic.

FSU, Clemson, NC, UVA, GT wouldn't even be debated SEC and B10 would snatch them up in some combination. That's not even considering NcSt or VT who are borderline-or at least a maybe for one of the big dogs for symmetry. Otherwise the B12 is in much better shape now than the ACC when it comes to long term prospects.

Duke and Miami would find a good home also.

Basically, when one domino falls the whole thing is gonna collapse.

If the ACC does indeed end up adding Stanford, Cal, and SMU then I agree everyone is stuck until 2036. ACC desperately wants to add those schools-they simply don't have the votes at this time.
 
#49
#49
Why do you think there is a holdup with adding the three other schools to the ACC?

If 7-8 schools (with current setup) decide they want to leave and can find homes, the GOR becomes only academic.

FSU, Clemson, NC, UVA, GT wouldn't even be debated SEC and B10 would snatch them up in some combination. That's not even considering NcSt or VT who are borderline-or at least a maybe for one of the big dogs for symmetry. Otherwise the B12 is in much better shape now than the ACC when it comes to long term prospects.

Duke and Miami would find a good home also.

Basically, when one domino falls the whole thing is gonna collapse.

If the ACC does indeed end up adding Stanford, Cal, and SMU then I agree everyone is stuck until 2036. ACC desperately wants to add those schools-they simply don't have the votes at this time.
They are a vote short last I heard. Getting bigger doesn't get you more money from your existing TV deal. You split the same pot more ways, which is exactly why those schools are against ACC expansion. FSU leaving might actually help that as they are a no vote and gives more money to the rest. The more leave the more money the others leave on the table.

The problem is even if all 7 of those schools leave they still owe 120 million each and don't have their own TV rights until 2036. NCST, UVA, VT, and GT, probably can't pay the buyout even before that. You need 8 teams gone before that goes away. That's 840 million for 7 schools that don't own there own TV rights and sit in overlapping TV markets with existing SEC schools and/or each other. They also reduce the money each school in their new conference gets from ESPN and the SEC has a new deal going into effect with ESPN next year until 2034.

The numbers just don't work.
 

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