Future Game at Bristol Motor Speedway

#51
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The RVs and camping were ridiculously awesome. Watching a game from like 150 yards away sucked.

It was a fun idea, but it's a terrible experience to actually watch a game.
 
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I had a great time. Was a bit drunk to wax poetic about the in-game experience. I remember thinking my view was pretty dang far, but I still could tell what was going on. Tailgating was phenomenal… and, hey, we won which was the best part.

I had a blast overall, and I would definitely do it again. Also, shout out to The Pride of the Southland Band. They put on a heck of a halftime show that game.
 
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The SEC doesn't raise revenue by adding FSU unless they can find a way out of the ACC with their TV right through 2036 intact. Even if they do, FSU/UNC/Clemson can likely afford the buyout. But the other 12 schools probably can't. I'm saying 5 years minimum before the conference implodes, if it does at all. The 3 mentioned schools could get out before then though. Besides UNC is probably the most attractive of the 3 for the SEC, not FSU.

As I said, 7-8 schools decide to bolt-they can simply vote to dissolve the conference. No buyout and the GOR is academic.

At least that's how I understand it all.

Personally, I don't think it would come to that as if the conference is dissolved about seven schools are going to be left twisting in the wind with nowhere to go. It would behoove those 7 or so schools for the ACC to remain intact in some form and then add a few other scrubs and try to make a go of it Basically those seven or whatever schools would desire the ones who want to leave to be gone and would vote with them to facilitate a much reduced buyout and kill the GOR for their own survival. Those remainders would then add Stanford, Cal, and SMU to get back to ten and the ACC would live on-just without any marquee teams as the Domers would quickly end their half half relationship with the ACC.

It's all 4D chess in the end.

I don't really care who goes where either. I'm just saying the writing is on the wall already
 
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Curious if anyone has heard if perhaps there will be a future game at Bristol. If so, who would be the opponent. Or was this a one and done from 2016. Who would you guys like to see match up against our Vols?
Hopefully it is one and done!
 
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As I said, 7-8 schools decide to bolt-they can simply vote to dissolve the conference. No buyout and the GOR is academic.

At least that's how I understand it all.

Personally, I don't think it would come to that as if the conference is dissolved about seven schools are going to be left twisting in the wind with nowhere to go. It would behoove those 7 or so schools for the ACC to remain intact in some form and then add a few other scrubs and try to make a go of it Basically those seven or whatever schools would desire the ones who want to leave to be gone and would vote with them to facilitate a much reduced buyout and kill the GOR for their own survival. Those remainders would then add Stanford, Cal, and SMU to get back to ten and the ACC would live on-just without any marquee teams as the Domers would quickly end their half half relationship with the ACC.

It's all 4D chess in the end.

I don't really care who goes where either. I'm just saying the writing is on the wall already
Oh I think the ACC as we see it today is doomed. I doubt ND goes there either. There is just so long left on the current contract that the conference doesn't have much incentive to negotiate right now. In 5 years that may be different. If FSU finds a legal loophole and can exit with its TV rights that'll accelerate things. But even then I'm not sure 7 other schools will/can pay that 120 million exit fee to dissolve the conference. I think you have the chain of events more or less correct. I just think it'll take a little longer.
 
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Considering they're about to lose a race to Nashville, don't be surprised if it becomes an annual possibility.
 
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Oh I think the ACC as we see it today is doomed. I doubt ND goes there either. There is just so long left on the current contract that the conference doesn't have much incentive to negotiate right now. In 5 years that may be different. If FSU finds a legal loophole and can exit with its TV rights that'll accelerate things. But even then I'm not sure 7 other schools will/can pay that 120 million exit fee to dissolve the conference. I think you have the chain of events more or less correct. I just think it'll take a little longer.

That's my point. If enough schools vote to dissolve the conference-the $120 million payment goes away.

That's why I think those who know they are gonna get "left" are going to have to be proactive. They have already seen what has happened to Wazzu/Or St and know they will be in the same boat

Sooner they can shore up what is going to be left of the conference, the better for them. I would guess in the end, the whole matter is concluded with those leaving paying $40 million or so each.

Stanford/Cal/SMU added for sure. Maybe Wazzu/Oregon St to get it to 12 and have a 4 team West Coast contingent.

Basically they are going to have to decide whether they want to survive 5 years or so of dysfunction followed by ACC implosion and likely conference "homelessness".

Or

Do they make the best they can out of a really bad situation, grab some money, and live on in some form to fight another day.
 
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Hopefully no Death Eaters show up 😉
There were lots of VT students camping near us and there were plenty of intoxicated UT fans who pretty muched sucked the souls out of them Sat. night. I was on pretty good behavior since my son was there; but it was fun to watch.
 
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That's my point. If enough schools vote to dissolve the conference-the $120 million payment goes away.

That's why I think those who know they are gonna get "left" are going to have to be proactive. They have already seen what has happened to Wazzu/Or St and know they will be in the same boat

Sooner they can shore up what is going to be left of the conference, the better for them. I would guess in the end, the whole matter is concluded with those leaving paying $40 million or so each.

Stanford/Cal/SMU added for sure. Maybe Wazzu/Oregon St to get it to 12 and have a 4 team West Coast contingent.

Basically they are going to have to decide whether they want to survive 5 years or so of dysfunction followed by ACC implosion and likely conference "homelessness".

Or

Do they make the best they can out of a really bad situation, grab some money, and live on in some form to fight another day.
I just don't think 8 schools will find a place to land in order to get that vote. FSU, Clemson, UNC, and UVA are attractive. Maybe VT and NCST. The rest not so much. I could see the SEC, B1G, Big 12 taking 2 schools each at some point. I don't see anyone taking 4 from the ACC. Not this soon after their most recent expansions. They'll want to let the dust settle for a few years.
 
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Maybe make it a multi sport event. Have a football game at the same time as a NASCAR race. Heck, have an airshow at the same time and make it a three ring circus and the single most American three hours in the history of the Universe. Space-time might just collapse in on itself from all the awesomeness
 
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Curious if anyone has heard if perhaps there will be a future game at Bristol. If so, who would be the opponent. Or was this a one and done from 2016. Who would you guys like to see match up against our Vols?

I can only attest for my experience and those I’ve met, but based on that attendance wouldn’t be great. I’ve never talked to someone that hasn’t said something like “it was fun but I wouldn’t do it again”. My experience and opinion aligns with that phrase.
 
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I just don't think 8 schools will find a place to land in order to get that vote. FSU, Clemson, UNC, and UVA are attractive. Maybe VT and NCST. The rest not so much. I could see the SEC, B1G, Big 12 taking 2 schools each at some point. I don't see anyone taking 4 from the ACC. Not this soon after their most recent expansions. They'll want to let the dust settle for a few years.

Duke will get in somewhere because of basketball and academics. I don't see them lowering themselves to the B12.

GT will get an invite based on location and academics-they will either go B10 or be brought back home to the SEC.

Miami will also end up somewhere.

That's nine. Even if one of the above doesn't make the list-its still all over

Like I said, those who are gonna get left in the cold are gonna have to make a decision. Either bite the bullet, agree to a lowered buyout, and try to make whatever you can out of what's left of the ACC by adding a few teams. It's either that or the ACC will die like the P12. There's no other options here.
 
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Ugh. Fun location for a giant party, but from an actual "I wanna see football" perspective, might as well hold the game in the Grand Canyon.
 
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Duke will get in somewhere because of basketball and academics. I don't see them lowering themselves to the B12.

GT will get an invite based on location and academics-they will either go B10 or be brought back home to the SEC.

Miami will also end up somewhere.

That's nine. Even if one of the above doesn't make the list-its still all over

Like I said, those who are gonna get left in the cold are gonna have to make a decision. Either bite the bullet, agree to a lowered buyout, and try to make whatever you can out of what's left of the ACC by adding a few teams. It's either that or the ACC will die like the P12. There's no other options here.
Just going to have to agree to disagree. I think the value of most of the ACC schools is significantly lower than you seem to.
 

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