'19 GA CB Jordan Huff (GT commit)

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bignewt said:
Other than Norton what tennessee high school players who have committed elsewhere in the '19 class are we still going hard after?
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I'm not real sure. Hampton maybe. My only real question is WHY are in-state players not looking hard at UT. I see other post on here, "Who cares. Just get players from any where." I get that, but what happened to local (Mid/East Tn) kids. If other schools are recruiting them hard, why not CJP?

Don't give me the 0-8 rhetoric and influx of non native Tennesseans moving here. That is happening everywhere in the south. Just a question.
 
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Jesus man how many times are you going to ask that question just to dismiss people’s answers and ask it again???
 
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peaygolf said:
Don't give me the 0-8 rhetoric and influx of non native Tennesseans moving here. That is happening everywhere in the south. Just a question.
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So you ask a question to which you get multiple responses/possible answers for but you just don't like said options and keep repeating your question ad naseum?

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Jesus man how many times are you going to ask that question just to dismiss people’s answers and ask it again???
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peaygolf said:
I'm not real sure. Hampton maybe. My only real question is WHY are in-state players not looking hard at UT. I see other post on here, "Who cares. Just get players from any where." I get that, but what happened to local (Mid/East Tn) kids. If other schools are recruiting them hard, why not CJP?

Don't give me the 0-8 rhetoric and influx of non native Tennesseans moving here. That is happening everywhere in the south. Just a question.
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Memphis kids have never as a whole grown up as diehard UT fans. Couple that with the overall signage of the program the last decade. 0-8 was just a final straw in that suckage.

These mid-state kids, while maybe more likely to grow up UT fans, many did not because of that decade of suckage, and didn't have parents who were diehard VOL fans to keep the Vols on those kid's minds. When I was a kid I was an Old Miss fan, then an LSU fan, before eventually becoming a diehard UT I grew up in West TN, and my mom was a UT alum, but my dad played MLB for Ole Miss, so I grew up going to Ole Miss games.

The point is, unless the instate school is really good, or you grow up in a household where you follow your parent's loyalties to that school, the instate school is going to have to recruit you as hard as out of state kids.
 
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peaygolf said:
I'm not real sure. Hampton maybe. My only real question is WHY are in-state players not looking hard at UT. I see other post on here, "Who cares. Just get players from any where." I get that, but what happened to local (Mid/East Tn) kids. If other schools are recruiting them hard, why not CJP?

Don't give me the 0-8 rhetoric and influx of non native Tennesseans moving here. That is happening everywhere in the south. Just a question.
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I think it's the other way around. JP isn't high on many of this year's instate players. The VQ guys have mentioned it several times. The Coach's are much higher on the '20 Instate Players.
 
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griddie said:
NC and GA kids will gladly take up the slack
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And Fla. Our Coach's have already shown they won't recruit instate guys just to do it. I love that too! If they are higher on out of state kids then I'd rather have them than instate kids who the staff isn't sold on.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
And Fla. Our Coach's have already shown they won't recruit instate guys just to do it. I love that too! If they are higher on out of state kids then I'd rather have them than instate kids who the staff isn't sold on.
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Agreed. It’s like you have to beg them to play at UT, which with our history is an utter joke. And I’ve never seen as a whole former players not help a program more. Even over here in NC the former players do all they can to get players to State or UNC. Honestly I’ve never seen anything like the state of TN. Weird as hell.
 
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griddie said:
Agreed. It’s like you have to beg them to play at UT, which with our history is an utter joke. And I’ve never seen as a whole former players not help a program more. Even over here in NC the former players do all they can to get players to State or UNC. Honestly I’ve never seen anything like the state of TN. Weird as hell.
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Maybe the former players haven’t believed in the coaches enough (or have been treated like crap by them) to care enough to push them to UT. They know better than anybody what it’s like to be in the recruits shoes. Why push them to a program (even one you love) when it will not be the kids best option to provide for their future? Just a thought.
 
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griddie said:
Agreed. It’s like you have to beg them to play at UT, which with our history is an utter joke. And I’ve never seen as a whole former players not help a program more. Even over here in NC the former players do all they can to get players to State or UNC. Honestly I’ve never seen anything like the state of TN. Weird as hell.
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I agree. I think some of it is could be the large amount of TN HS players having moved from another state. As far as not having the instate loyalty.

I do think we will see more former players help with that now that Fulmer is back. Plus they know he will hire Coach's who will do everything possible to get us back. There's been more support by former players since Fulmer and JP got to work, than we've seen in a long time. Fulmer getting the AD job was huge for us. We all know how much he loves TN and getting us back to winning is his top priority. We didn't have that with Hart,Curry and to a lesser extent Hamilton.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
Memphis kids have never as a whole grown up as diehard UT fans. Couple that with the overall signage of the program the last decade. 0-8 was just a final straw in that suckage.

These mid-state kids, while maybe more likely to grow up UT fans, many did not because of that decade of suckage, and didn't have parents who were diehard VOL fans to keep the Vols on those kid's minds. When I was a kid I was an Old Miss fan, then an LSU fan, before eventually becoming a diehard UT I grew up in West TN, and my mom was a UT alum, but my dad played MLB for Ole Miss, so I grew up going to Ole Miss games.

The point is, unless the instate school is really good, or you grow up in a household where you follow your parent's loyalties to that school, the instate school is going to have to recruit you as hard as out of state kids.
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Thanks. Simple answer to a simple question.:good!:

I have only talked to one (1) HS player that UT recruited, and his answer to why he never looked real hard at UT worried me a little. All I asked for when I posted was for others opinions......not just smart a$$ answers like others.
 
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griddie said:
Agreed. It’s like you have to beg them to play at UT, which with our history is an utter joke. And I’ve never seen as a whole former players not help a program more. Even over here in NC the former players do all they can to get players to State or UNC. Honestly I’ve never seen anything like the state of TN. Weird as hell.
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I mean, what’s anyone from the last 10-15 years going to say? “I love UT! I was completely under-utilized, and got nearly nothing in the way of development at my position!”

Prior players can’t vouch for this staff. And they prob didn’t want to vouch for the previous staffs.
 
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Geaux_Vols said:
I mean, what’s anyone from the last 10-15 years going to say? “I love UT! I was completely under-utilized, and got nearly nothing in the way of development at my position!”

Prior players can’t vouch for this staff. And they prob didn’t want to vouch for the previous staffs.
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Oh great... Geaux gets an offer from Oregon and now he's going Turbo on us
 
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griddie said:
Agreed. It’s like you have to beg them to play at UT, which with our history is an utter joke. And I’ve never seen as a whole former players not help a program more. Even over here in NC the former players do all they can to get players to State or UNC. Honestly I’ve never seen anything like the state of TN. Weird as hell.
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I just don't think Tennessee from a national perspective or in a recruit's mind is viewed as a top tier program anymore. Tennessee isn't seen in the same light as Bama, UF, LSU, or UGA IMO. Honestly we're probably thought of to be a second tier program. Until we start winning on a high level again, that will be the perception.
 
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