'17 GA DT Aubrey Solomon (NCAA IS A FAIR ORGANIZATION)

You are ignoring that if the previous school supports it then it gets approved.

No I am not. If they support a transfer for playing time purposes only with no extreme circumstance beyond the players control there is no chance a waiver is approved

The school simply needs to support the reason the player claims as the extreme circumstance and the academic and social standing of the player. That’s what they have to support
 
I think it's pretty obvious if the kid and the school are working in the same direction, it's pretty likely that the waiver gets approved "ir"regardless of the circumstances.


Agreed as long as the words “the player is leaving for more playing time” isn’t being used as the only extreme circumstance
 
The statement from the previous school is meant to be confirmation of why the SA told them he was transferring-- not why the previous school's HC or AD think he transferred. Key difference.

If the SA or his family indicates to the previous school he's transferring for personal reasons, to be closer to home or because of a health issue-- either his or a family member's, then that's what the previous school's statement should say. The previous school's AD submitting a statement claiming the SA transferred for personal reasons and playing time contradicts the SA and will result in denial-- even though the addition of "playing time" is based on the previous school's opinion, which wasn't requested. Even though the new school put together a waiver package, based on valid grounds, that meets every single requirement on the NCAA checklist.

That's how schools like Michigan torpedo waiver approvals, then claim they didn't block anything. They also delay providing supporting academic documentation, bogging down the process. It has been their default response.
 
The statement from the previous school is meant to be confirmation of why the SA told them he was transferring-- not why the previous school's HC or AD think he transferred. Key difference.

If the SA or his family indicates to the previous school he's transferring for personal reasons, to be closer to home or because of a health issue-- either his or a family member's, then that's what the previous school's statement should say. The previous school's AD submitting a statement claiming the SA transferred for personal reasons and playing time contradicts the SA and will result in denial-- even though the addition of "playing time" is based on the previous school's opinion, which wasn't requested. Even though the new school put together a waiver package, based on valid grounds, that meets every single requirement on the NCAA checklist.

That's how schools like Michigan torpedo waiver approvals, then claim they didn't block anything. They also delay providing supporting academic documentation, bogging down the process. It has been their default response.


Agreed

Clear something up for us

If the player says he’s leaving for more playing time and the school approves with no other reason for a waiver will be it be granted?
 
@Sleegro in here stacking up bodies early on a Saturday morning

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Lol

He’s clearly wrong
 
Agreed

Clear something up for us

If the player says he’s leaving for more playing time and the school approves with no other reason for a waiver will be it be granted?

That scenario is not going to happen. The waiver package is prepared by compliance and legal, and everything submitted is going to be based on, and support, appropriate grounds. Compliance knows exactly what is needed, and the new school is not going to sink its own case.
 
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That scenario is not going to happen. The waiver package is prepared by compliance and legal, and everything submitted is going to be based on, and support, appropriate grounds. Compliance knows exactly what is needed, and the new school is not going to sink its own case.


Yep

Thanks for the response and that’s clear
 
When the two schools work together, the waiver is approved. The previous school can submit a short statement saying the SA indicated he was leaving for "personal reasons" and let the new school carry the load. If the waiver is initially denied, the two schools can come together on the appeal. Or the previous school can continue to "not block" the waiver. Guess what Michigan does?
 
When the two schools work together, the waiver is approved. The previous school can submit a short statement saying the SA indicated he was leaving for "personal reasons" and let the new school carry the load. If the waiver is initially denied, the two schools can come together on the appeal. Or the previous school can continue to "not block" the waiver. Guess what Michigan does?


Yea they are using the playing time Mention to kill it.

Poor @Sleegro thinks that is all that’s needed . If he was a compliance director at a school he’d kill the waiver as you say before it even got off the ground
 
If the previous school supports the waiver it gets approved.
When the two schools work together, the waiver is approved. The previous school can submit a short statement saying the SA indicated he was leaving for "personal reasons" and let the new school carry the load. If the waiver is initially denied, the two schools can come together on the appeal. Or the previous school can continue to "not block" the waiver. Guess what Michigan does?

Looks like my buddy @Sleegro nailed this one

Nice job
 
Yea they are using the playing time Mention to kill it.

Poor @Sleegro thinks that is all that’s needed . If he was a compliance director at a school he’d kill the waiver as you say before it even got off the ground

I think @Sleegro and @InVOLuntary are making the point that if the two schools agree to support the player, the waiver is approved. The burden of case prep is on the new school and compliance will build the right case. Communication and cooperation upfront makes it happen.
 

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