'18 GA LB JJ Peterson (Tennessee signee)

[Big Orange#1]

my god almighty leonard little and al wilson are better downfield blockers than anyone on our team the past decade

They honestly look better than 99% of the SEC the past decade

 

[volfanCLT]

You bet your a** he would.

Look how fast Little is, outruns the camera haha

 

[MetalVolunteer]

Kongbo is a waste of space on the field. Play allen and let him develop as fast as he can. We had no push from our OLBs at all.

I have held my opinion on Kongbo for awhile now cause people seen that he was highly rated and had upside, but I can’t anymore.

He may have the size that you look for but his feet are WAY too heavy to play Backer. He needs to slide inside and gain weight and play DT.

He doesn’t have the lateral burst to play backer and doesn’t have the quick step to play end and I doubt he’ll have the burst to play DT.

Some guys can get off the bus looking like an All American and just don’t play like it and that’s Kongbo.

For me, he’s just a body that can take up a gap on the interior and that’s it.

I’m not bashing the guy and I apologize in advance if that rubs some people the wrong way, but he just isn’t that talented.

 

[DoolTool]

my god almighty leonard little and al wilson are better downfield blockers than anyone on our team the past decade

It almost seems that long ago since we could get downfield

 

[butchna]

If you're ignoring somebody for that, you're pretty weak minded.

You put too much intellectual stock in an ignore list decision.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Just disappointed in Kongbo. I bought in on him again this year. Kid just doesn't want to hurt people. He should be a blocking TE maybe.

Interestingly enough, for all the grief he gets, Kongbo was graded at 72.2 for 2017 by the Pro Football Focus group. With PFF considering 85 or higher as NFL-ready, 80-84, as very good, 50-60 as average, at 72.2 Kongbo was graded closer to very good than he was to average. Certainly not what we had hoped for from a former 5* recruit, but certainly not nearly as bad as we seem to think. He graded out better than K. Phillips, another former 5*, who PFF graded at 69.1.

Pro Football Focus season grades for Tennessee's defense

 

[MetalVolunteer]

Interestingly enough, for all the grief he gets, Kongbo was graded at 72.2 for 2017 by the Pro Football Focus group. With PFF considering 85 or higher as NFL-ready, 80-84, as very good, 50-60 as average, at 72.2 Kongbo was graded closer to very good than he was to average. Certainly not what we had hoped for from a former 5* recruit, but certainly not nearly as bad as we seem to think. He graded out better than K. Phillips, another former 5*, who PFF graded at 69.1.

Pro Football Focus season grades for Tennessee's defense

Those grades give a false perception too. If a guy stays at home or plays disciplined assignments then he can get a good grade, but that doesn’t translate into making plays. Just sayin GBO

 

[volsarelife1]

 

[engineerVOL]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jeremy Pruitt on freshman LB JJ Peterson: I’ve known JJ for a long time and the biggest thing with JJ is he’s out of shape. It’ll be a long time before he plays for us.”</p>&mdash; Jesse Simonton (@JesseReSimonton) <a href="">September 5, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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[Crazy Ivan]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

At least those of us who were around back then have that. You may never have anything like that to look back on, and that is sadder to me than us old timers living in the past. Whatever happens from here on out, nobody can take those memories from us.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I have held my opinion on Kongbo for awhile now cause people seen that he was highly rated and had upside, but I can’t anymore.

He may have the size that you look for but his feet are WAY too heavy to play Backer. He needs to slide inside and gain weight and play DT.

He doesn’t have the lateral burst to play backer and doesn’t have the quick step to play end and I doubt he’ll have the burst to play DT.

Some guys can get off the bus looking like an All American and just don’t play like it and that’s Kongbo.

For me, he’s just a body that can take up a gap on the interior and that’s it.

I’m not bashing the guy and I apologize in advance if that rubs some people the wrong way, but he just isn’t that talented.

He is the poster child for "slow twitch"

 

[bpalmer28]

We're gonna get that back. May not be this yr, but it's coming.

Peterson and Crouch, IMO

 

[MetalVolunteer]

He is the poster child for "slow twitch"

He seriously lacks agility. I’d be curious to see what his three cone numbers look like.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

I don't think Kongbo played great or even that good, but he did have one of our 2 sacks. For some reason the official stats credit it as a team sack, but it was Kongbo. Alexis Johnson collapsed the pocket and Grier tried to escape up the middle but Kongbo caught him. I do think Alexis and Shy played pretty good. They pushed the pocket a few times but Grier was able to get rid of the ball before taking the sack.

The biggest thing I saw from our pass rush was pursuit angles. We would have one guy chasing Grier but then the other pass rusher would take the same line of attack (not changing his angle) which then would allow Grier to cut back the opposite direction with no one there to smack him in his mouth.

I would assume this week our LBs and DL worked on those pursuit angles. In the sense that if one Defender is on a line of pursuit in the backfield the other defender changes his line of pursuit in order to attack the QB or RB from different angles.

 

[Sleegro]

The biggest thing I saw from our pass rush was pursuit angles. We would have one guy chasing Grier but then the other pass rusher would take the same line of attack (not changing his angle) which then would allow Grier to cut back the opposite direction with no one there to smack him in his mouth.

I would assume this week our LBs and DL worked on those pursuit angles. In the sense that if one Defender is on a line of pursuit in the backfield the other defender changes his line of pursuit in order to attack the QB or RB from different angles.

That's a good point. They have the ability to get there, they just need to learn how to finish. Its teachable. Which is what Pruitt also said.

 

[wrangler]

Sounds like he may have problems with motivation and discipline, seeing the problems with academics and conditioning. Hope the coaches can help with that.

 

[buckfama]

Sounds like he may have problems with motivation and discipline, seeing the problems with academics and conditioning. Hope the coaches can help with that.

Some of y'all crack me up the way you just assume things about a person's character.

MAYBE he was re-habbing his shoulder injury and couldn't really work out. Maybe he was working a job to support the 2 little ones he has.

Most incoming freshman aren't ready to play physically.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Sounds like he may have problems with motivation and discipline, seeing the problems with academics and conditioning. Hope the coaches can help with that.

Pruitt might be saying he isn't conditioned but he was definitely moving well in drills. Very quick if you ask me. I think Pruitt is slightly telling the truth here. He obviously hasn't done the same conditioning as the other guys (kind of tempering the fan base) but if you ask me once he gets that one on one and goes through practice a couple of weeks it's going to be hard to keep him off the field.

 

[Bauce]

Sounds like he may have problems with motivation and discipline, seeing the problems with academics and conditioning. Hope the coaches can help with that.

Congrats...you get the Kelly Bundy post Award

 

[LouderVol]

Some of y'all crack me up the way you just assume things about a person's character.

MAYBE he was re-habbing his shoulder injury and couldn't really work out. Maybe he was working a job to support the 2 little ones he has.

Most incoming freshman aren't ready to play physically.

there is not ready to play against the SEC, and there is not able to finish the practice. JJ seems to fall more under the second. His beer gut is bigger than mine.

plenty of stuff you can still do rehabbing a shoulder. and this is crazy I know, but some of that rehab would be lifting some weights/exercises designed to strengthen his shoulder. not SEC S&C levels, but definitely more than beer gut levels.

 

[buckfama]

there is not ready to play against the SEC, and there is not able to finish the practice. JJ seems to fall more under the second. His beer gut is bigger than mine.

plenty of stuff you can still do rehabbing a shoulder. and this is crazy I know, but some of that rehab would be lifting some weights/exercises designed to strengthen his shoulder. not SEC S&C levels, but definitely more than beer gut levels.

There is also doctor's orders which could have said do nothing other than range of motion. Shoulders are tricky and slow to heal, easy to reinjure.

Squats? No, curls? No, not if he had a weight limit on the amount he can lift. Certainly not deadlifts, power cleans, or any kind of over head presses.

For all we know he was told not to lift anything until he was looked at by the UT medical staff and cleared to lift.

Even running could have been off limits.

That's just it, some are ready to pile on without knowing squat about any if this, what his situation is/has been.

Some want to knock his character, work ethic, basically everything about this whole academic situation he just went through. He may have a learning disability for all we know.

If the kid is lazy, lacks motivation, doesn't want to apply himself then he will be weeded out soon enough.

But I refuse to assume anything about this kid. From what little I know, he has had it pretty rough so far and maybe role models haven't been abundant in his life.

He will show who he is soon enough to the coaches. They will show him the way to fix all of this. I'm hoping he will take advice and leadership from his teammates and coaches and be successful because he has more tools than ever now to be successful.

 

[LouderVol]

There is also doctor's orders which could have said do nothing other than range of motion. Shoulders are tricky and slow to heal, easy to reinjure.

Squats? No, curls? No, not if he had a weight limit on the amount he can lift. Certainly not deadlifts, power cleans, or any kind of over head presses.

For all we know he was told not to lift anything until he was looked at by the UT medical staff and cleared to lift.

Even running could have been off limits.

That's just it, some are ready to pile on without knowing squat about any if this, what his situation is/has been.

Some want to knock his character, work ethic, basically everything about this whole academic situation he just went through. He may have a learning disability for all we know.

If the kid is lazy, lacks motivation, doesn't want to apply himself then he will be weeded out soon enough.

But I refuse to assume anything about this kid. From what little I know, he has had it pretty rough so far and maybe role models haven't been abundant in his life.

He will show who he is soon enough to the coaches. They will show him the way to fix all of this. I'm hoping he will take advice and leadership from his teammates and coaches and be successful because he has more tools than ever now to be successful.

never called his character into question. He could easily not exercise once and be the best person ever. I know a little about shoulder surgery. Had three people close to me go through it. Its true the doctor could have limited him, but I would doubt they would have let him anywhere near a practice field if that was the case. He was out at practice the very first day he was technically here, that tells me it was fine, and he wasn't in bubble wrap the whole rehab.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

there is not ready to play against the SEC, and there is not able to finish the practice. JJ seems to fall more under the second. His beer gut is bigger than mine.

plenty of stuff you can still do rehabbing a shoulder. and this is crazy I know, but some of that rehab would be lifting some weights/exercises designed to strengthen his shoulder. not SEC S&C levels, but definitely more than beer gut levels.

Really? You think this kid can't finish practice or even play in a football game? Come on now. Be realistic. The kid is quick. Probably quicker then most our other LBs. Literally the only thing Pruitt had to say about him was he is out of shape.

Didn't say he wasn't meantly ready to play or that he didn't have the ability to play. Just said he needs to get in shape and wouldn't play until that happened.

 

[LouderVol]

Really? You think this kid can't finish practice or even play in a football game? Come on now. Be realistic. The kid is quick. Probably quicker then most our other LBs. Literally the only thing Pruitt had to say about him was he is out of shape.

Didn't say he wasn't meantly ready to play or that he didn't have the ability to play. Just said he needs to get in shape and wouldn't play until that happened.

that's exactly what I said.