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05_never_again said:
Yep. And the main talking point that is used ("They banned drilling on federal land!") is just that, a talking point. Democrats love to talk about it to boost their environmental bonafides to their base, and Republicans love to talk about it because they can make a case Democrats are restricting supply. Less than 10% of production comes off of federal land, and since Biden signed that order last year pretty much all of that production shifted to private land. And you can keep drilling/fracking the wells that were already drilled; the order stopped permits for new wells. It isn't much of an impact. Oil/gasoline would still be very expensive, probably just as expensive, without the order.

Remember when oil briefly went negative in March 2020? This is effectively the inverse of that. Supply and demand are all out of whack and price is responding accordingly.
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Except that Biden campaigned on reducing fossil fuel use and he followed through with that the first week of his presidency.

Biden Makes Sweeping Changes to Oil and Gas Policy

Federal land made up 25% of production

He’s beholden to the Green agenda. Trump wasn’t - love him or hate him.

We should be producing as much oil as we can. Other energy types simply don’t currently produce the oil we’d need. We can’t all drive electric cars - the grid can’t handle it (in addition to all the heavy metals used in the batteries).
 
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zooguy said:
Except that Biden campaigned on reducing fossil fuel use and he followed through with that the first week of his presidency.

Biden Makes Sweeping Changes to Oil and Gas Policy

Federal land made up 25% of production

He’s beholden to the Green agenda. Trump wasn’t - love him or hate him.

We should be producing as much oil as we can. Other energy types simply don’t currently produce the oil we’d need. We can’t all drive electric cars - the grid can’t handle it (in addition to all the heavy metals used in the batteries).
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I never said I agreed with him, and I think we should be producing as much as we can domestically. I'm just saying gas prices would currently be high even if Biden didn't win, or hadn't enacted these policies. There isn't always some perfect cause-and-effect between something that happens and something a President did. Especially when his executive order just stopped new leases on federal land, not any existing activity, and much of the federal land drilling has already shifted to private.

And there's also this...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/01/27/oil-gas-leasing-biden-climate/
 
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Pushing 4.50/per gallon here in central Florida. Just Sunday morning was 3.99/per gallon
 
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05_never_again said:
I never said I agreed with him, and I think we should be producing as much as we can domestically. I'm just saying gas prices would currently be high even if Biden didn't win, or hadn't enacted these policies. There isn't always some perfect cause-and-effect between something that happens and something a President did. Especially when his executive order just stopped new leases on federal land, not any existing activity, and much of the federal land drilling has already shifted to private.

And there's also this...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/01/27/oil-gas-leasing-biden-climate/
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Some people just hate the POTUS because their side didn't win and will blame anything and everything they can on it. Sore losers.

I don't think things would be much different now if Trump would have won....well maybe we would be nuking Ukraine but anyway....I digress.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Some people just hate the POTUS because their side didn't win and will blame anything and everything they can on it. Sore losers.

I don't think things would be much different now if Trump would have won....well maybe we would be nuking Ukraine but anyway....I digress.
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I think Trump would have called the CEO’s of the major American oil companies to DC to find out what government road blocks needed to be removed to increase domestic production followed by demanding production be increased. JMO
 
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walkenvol said:
I think Trump would have called the CEO’s of the major American oil companies to DC to find out what government road blocks needed to be removed to increase domestic production followed by demanding production be increased. JMO
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We have increased production. We are just selling it to foreign countries because oil companies are greedy af.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Some people just hate the POTUS because their side didn't win and will blame anything and everything they can on it. Sore losers.[/B]

I don't think things would be much different now if Trump would have won....well maybe we would be nuking Ukraine but anyway....I digress.
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Pot meet kettle.
 
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zooguy said:
Except that Biden campaigned on reducing fossil fuel use and he followed through with that the first week of his presidency.

Biden Makes Sweeping Changes to Oil and Gas Policy

Federal land made up 25% of production

He’s beholden to the Green agenda. Trump wasn’t - love him or hate him.

We should be producing as much oil as we can. Other energy types simply don’t currently produce the oil we’d need. We can’t all drive electric cars - the grid can’t handle it (in addition to all the heavy metals used in the batteries).
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Do you think that oil produced in the US only stays in the US? That’s not how it works.

Oil is a global commodity. If Exxon pumps 100 million barrels in Texas it goes on the global market where the price is determined by all the other international buyers all bidding on it.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Some people just hate the POTUS because their side didn't win and will blame anything and everything they can on it. Sore losers.

I don't think things would be much different now if Trump would have won....well maybe we would be nuking Ukraine but anyway....I digress.
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That precedent was set in 2016.
 
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tntar heel said:
I filled at 4.14 at Costco. trick is I fill up at 6:30 on way into office to avoid the lines.
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I was at Costco today, fortunately didn’t need gas. The line came so far back it was blocking the regular traffic. When I checked this morning on the app, I thought it said Costco was at 3.89 but that was for regular, Wawa on Missouri Ave was $4.19
 
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mad4vols said:
I was at Costco today, fortunately didn’t need gas. The line came so far back it was blocking the regular traffic. When I checked this morning on the app, I thought it said Costco was at 3.89 but that was for regular, Wawa on Missouri Ave was $4.19
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Wife went yesterday and was 3.99 in Brandon. I pass a race trac on Bruce b Downs off 75. This am. 4.29... on way home 4.49. Ridiculous, what changed .20 per gallon in 10 hours?
 
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