'20 GA QB Harrison Bailey (UT SIGNEE)

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Ron Swanson said:
Top programs have multiple star QBs on their rosters. They bring in at least one every year to stay on top. Pruitt’s building a top program and we’re playing catch-up in the QB room.
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Wait, you're saying that programs need one qb in each class but TN needs two, that we're playing catch up, because one qb will leave early if he has a good year and another will leave if he isn't played. That is speculation, not an argument and not even consistent. Personally, I agree with taking one a year for a total of four. jmho Why waste a scholarship by taking two elite qbs in one class, thinking that one will leave?
 
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bigl3327 said:
Sumlin had the #1QB in the country in successive classes and wasn't honest with the kids or their families. I don't see this as remotely similar. If we're going to get back on top, we have to recruit at that level. Competition breeds champions.
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What do wasted scholarships, controversies, and disruptions breed? If a coaching staff does not get competition from four qbs, one per year, it is doing something wrong that taking two does not remedy.
 
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Vol Main said:
Why waste a scholarship by taking two elite qbs in one class, thinking that one will leave?
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Pretty simple - don't have all your eggs in 1 basket. It is like investing. You don't put all your money into 1 stock, no matter how great you think it will be. You diversify away the risk.

In football, that one guy could bail last minute, get injured, have a career ending issue, etc. Furthermore, why not take 2 and let the best win it out? What if we had only taken Brandon Stewart? You never really know which guy will be the Brandon Stewart and which could be the next Peyton. There are no sure things.

Yes, taking 1 elite guy each year might be optimal. But you take 2 if they will both come. You just don't turn away potential greatness out of fear. Can't win playing scared.
 
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Vol Main said:
Wait, you're saying that programs need one qb in each class but TN needs two, that we're playing catch up, because one qb will leave early if he has a good year and another will leave if he isn't played. That is speculation, not an argument and not even consistent. Personally, I agree with taking one a year for a total of four. jmho Why waste a scholarship by taking two elite qbs in one class, thinking that one will leave?
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Math don’t work. Neither does the narrative that all top programs have “multiple” top line QBs on their roster. Those types don’t wait their turn anymore. It’s well known that Tua was exploring transferring before he got in the second half of the NC game. You get a face of the program type every couple of years and the intermittent one allows you to sign the higher end promising types who are more willing to wait.
 
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Vol Main said:
Wait, you're saying that programs need one qb in each class but TN needs two, that we're playing catch up, because one qb will leave early if he has a good year and another will leave if he isn't played. That is speculation, not an argument and not even consistent. Personally, I agree with taking one a year for a total of four. jmho Why waste a scholarship by taking two elite qbs in one class, thinking that one will leave?
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IMO, we sign both of them and let them compete. May the best man win and if one decides to transfer, so be it. At least we will have competition and know which one was the better one.
 
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Vol Main said:
What do wasted scholarships, controversies, and disruptions breed? If a coaching staff does not get competition from four qbs, one per year, it is doing something wrong that taking two does not remedy.
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How many QB's on our roster did this staff recruit? How many of those did our OC recruit? Is there a remote possibility that JG has a big season and leaves for the NFL (whether he's ready or not)? Is there a chance that what we have on our current roster or have committed don't pan out in live SEC action? Disruptions are speculation on your part. Pruitt has been part of multiple championship teams loaded with 5*s and I think he has an idea of how to manage that. The controversy tends to be here on Volnation. You have a serious case of BVS my good sir.
 
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We need to go ahead and cut ties with Bailey. This is Maurer’s team now. He will de-commit after seeing what Maurer does this year anyway.
 
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Devo182 said:
Pretty simple - don't have all your eggs in 1 basket. It is like investing. You don't put all your money into 1 stock, no matter how great you think it will be. You diversify away the risk.

In football, that one guy could bail last minute, get injured, have a career ending issue, etc. Furthermore, why not take 2 and let the best win it out? What if we had only taken Brandon Stewart? You never really know which guy will be the Brandon Stewart and which could be the next Peyton. There are no sure things.

Yes, taking 1 elite guy each year might be optimal. But you take 2 if they will both come. You just don't turn away potential greatness out of fear. Can't win playing scared.
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Legend in your own mind
 
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bigl3327 said:
How many QB's on our roster did this staff recruit? How many of those did our OC recruit? Is there a remote possibility that JG has a big season and leaves for the NFL (whether he's ready or not)? Is there a chance that what we have on our current roster or have committed don't pan out in live SEC action? Disruptions are speculation on your part. Pruitt has been part of multiple championship teams loaded with 5*s and I think he has an idea of how to manage that. The controversy tends to be here on Volnation. You have a serious case of BVS my good sir.
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Name one team he’s been on with multiple 5 * QUARTERBACKS. Jameis Winston was backed up by 3* Jacob Coker at Florida State and Tua was the 5* backing up the 4 * at Bama. Other championship QBs was 3* McElroy and 4* McCarron. He’s managed a 5 star ROSTER but quarterbacks are a different animal.
 
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butchna said:
Name one team he’s been on with multiple 5 * QUARTERBACKS. Jameis Winston was backed up by 3* Jacob Coker at Florida State and Tua was the 5* backing up the 4 * at Bama. Other championship QBs was 3* McElroy and 4* McCarron. He’s managed a 5 star ROSTER but quarterbacks are a different animal.
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What 2 5* quarterbacks did we have a chance of having commit? By your logic, we should not try to land the very best players possible at the QB position if there is a chance of more than one committing? Yes Bailey and King have a chance to be bumped to 5* status, but neither one is currently.
 
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butchna said:
Name one team he’s been on with multiple 5 * QUARTERBACKS. Jameis Winston was backed up by 3* Jacob Coker at Florida State and Tua was the 5* backing up the 4 * at Bama. Other championship QBs was 3* McElroy and 4* McCarron. He’s managed a 5 star ROSTER but quarterbacks are a different animal.
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And every QB you just mentioned won a national championship lol
 
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bigl3327 said:
What 2 5* quarterbacks did we have a chance of having commit? By your logic, we should not try to land the very best players possible at the QB position if there is a chance of more than one committing? Yes Bailey and King have a chance to be bumped to 5* status, but neither one is currently.
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I’m refuting the NEED to land two such QB’s in one class. Try your azzes off.
 
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SSVol said:
I don't disagree that there are dangers, but that certainly isn't the mentality of a championship team.
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You say that as if we have a championship team. We don't.

I would prefer more players for the Line, on both sides. I think our QBs can play on a championship level. No way our guys on the line can do that without more support. That is one reason I keep harping on not wasting scholarships.
 
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bigl3327 said:
How many QB's on our roster did this staff recruit? How many of those did our OC recruit? Is there a remote possibility that JG has a big season and leaves for the NFL (whether he's ready or not)? Is there a chance that what we have on our current roster or have committed don't pan out in live SEC action? Disruptions are speculation on your part. Pruitt has been part of multiple championship teams loaded with 5*s and I think he has an idea of how to manage that. The controversy tends to be here on Volnation. You have a serious case of BVS my good sir.
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Bottom line was Pru giving a new OC authority to recruit his own choice. I cannot argue against that. It's all the other hatched out ideas that do not impress me. I should not say that. I just think what I think about the situation and do not want to disrespect the discussion.
 
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Devo182 said:
Pretty simple - don't have all your eggs in 1 basket. It is like investing. You don't put all your money into 1 stock, no matter how great you think it will be. You diversify away the risk.

In football, that one guy could bail last minute, get injured, have a career ending issue, etc. Furthermore, why not take 2 and let the best win it out? What if we had only taken Brandon Stewart? You never really know which guy will be the Brandon Stewart and which could be the next Peyton. There are no sure things.

Yes, taking 1 elite guy each year might be optimal. But you take 2 if they will both come. You just don't turn away potential greatness out of fear. Can't win playing scared.
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Ain't skeered
 
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Vol Main said:
Bottom line was Pru giving a new OC authority to recruit his own choice. I cannot argue against that. It's all the other hatched out ideas that do not impress me. I should not say that. I just think what I think about the situation and do not want to disrespect the discussion.
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I think this “their own QB” is our own invention. Crompton was Chaney’s QB...because he got it done. JG has a good season and he’ll be Chaney’s guy. Football coaches don’t have to be at the birth to teach...especially in such a nomadic career field.
 
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