'20 GA QB Harrison Bailey (UT SIGNEE)

[bigl3327]

I think our offense will be alright next year IF our QB can be accurate and can hit the open WR on time. I think Bailey can be that guy. I know we loose a lot of production but I like Palmer, Keyton, Gibbs. I have faith that CJC can call plays to get our guys open.

Our guys were open tonight. JG just threw bad passes on every end zone attempt.

 

[WonfulVol]

When do the EE’s show up

 

[WarMachine]

When do the EE’s show up

Not early enough.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Beginning of the spring term so I would assume Within the next few weeks.

 

[Catbone]

This guy is going to have to be the one to bring us back to relevancy because JG certainly can't.

 

[PulaskiVolFan]

This guy is going to have to be the one to bring us back to relevancy because JG certainly can't.

JG brought us back to relevancy this year as we were just 2 upset losses away from having a great year.

 

[LittleVol]

JG career stats
5,062 passing 32 TDs 13 ints
( 34 games played)
148 yrds passing and 0.93 TDs a game.

Progression:
2019
2,152 16 Tds 8 ints ( 13 games)
165 yds per game 1.2 Tds a game

2018
1,907 yds 12 tds 3 ints ( 12 games)
158 yds per game 1.0 Tds a game

2017
997 yds 4 TDs 2 ints ( 9 games)
110 yds per game and 0.44 Tds per game

So there's obviously a trend of improvement with him.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

JG career stats
5,062 passing 32 TDs 13 ints
( 34 games played)
148 yrds passing and 0.93 TDs a game.

Progression:
2019
2,152 16 Tds 8 ints ( 13 games)
165 yds per game 1.2 Tds a game

2018
1,907 yds 12 tds 3 ints ( 12 games)
158 yds per game 1.0 Tds a game

2017
997 yds 4 TDs 2 ints ( 9 games)
110 yds per game and 0.44 Tds per game

So there's obviously a trend of improvement with him.

He's improved but is very up and down with his play. I think his biggest issue is delivering the ball about 1-2 seconds late. If he would just pull the trigger a little quicker, then he would be a pretty good QB. He's got the arm strength and has had stretches where he's been really accurate. As much as I've pulled for him to put it all together, I think the odds are that he gets beat out by Bailey or Maurer for the job in 2020.

 

[jakez4ut]

JG career stats
5,062 passing 32 TDs 13 ints
( 34 games played)
148 yrds passing and 0.93 TDs a game.

Progression:
2019
2,152 16 Tds 8 ints ( 13 games)
165 yds per game 1.2 Tds a game

2018
1,907 yds 12 tds 3 ints ( 12 games)
158 yds per game 1.0 Tds a game

2017
997 yds 4 TDs 2 ints ( 9 games)
110 yds per game and 0.44 Tds per game

So there's obviously a trend of improvement with him.

statistically, yes. there's marginal improvement....int's up this year though....and the biggest issue he has is his ability to throw with timing.

Hasselbeck said it best last night, JG has to see it first. to be the qb we need at the level we want to be he has to trust the route and the WR and throw it to where he's GOING to be. he has never done that with any consistency, and is his biggest issue.

i hate it for JG, cause i truly think he loves TN and wants to be "that guy"...but after 3 years of seeing him play, i can't get myself to believe he's going to be anything other than he is...incredibly frustrating to watch. i'm glad he got back in the game and got some modicum of redemption last night.

and we don't win out the way we did w/out JG's contributions the 2nd half of the season. so i take nothing away from him.

but he is what he is.

this off season is HUGE for our QB room.....we need an alpha to step up. and i honestly don't care who it is. the problem for the coaches is this: we know JG is a great practice QB, so we should expect the competition to include him to the end. it's gonna be up to the other QB's in the room to make up the difference on the practice field. which, is a good thing. competition should make them better, and if that's JG's lasting contrbution, so be it...be the guy that forces someone else to pass you on the depth chart.....there's a lot of value in that....especially on the football iq front.

anyway.......put on more steam! on to 20! GBO.

 

[bpalmer28]

JG brought us back to relevancy this year as we were just 2 upset losses away from having a great year.

And now it’s time to take the next step

 

[sjt18]

JG brought us back to relevancy this year as we were just 2 upset losses away from having a great year.

No. JG is the reason UT did NOT return to relevancy this year. He was the primary reason for the 2 upset losses which is why Pruitt finally and grudgingly benched him.

He had had a couple of good games against Auburn and UK in '18. He had 3 good games this year. Other than that, he simply hasn't been good enough. He doesn't move the O. He doesn't lead the O to points. Most of what is wrong with him STILL boils down to him processing much too slow. How many times did the announcer of the IU game speak the word "late" to describe a JG throw? It is a chronic problem and has been since he started playing at UT.

I had truly hoped he was past it. I hoped that you and others were right and Vandy was just a product of his personal loss and a wet ball. This game against a really bad D... indicates he still isn't consistent or dependable.


UT had a LOT more talent than IU. If you believe in "stars" then you cannot claim that a program that averaged 50th over the past 4 years without a single 4/5* player has as much talent as a program that averaged 16th with over 30 4/5* players. UT won last night in spite of JG... not because of him.

 

[sjt18]

PS- JG STILL has not led a UT O to more than 30 points vs an FBS opponent. That one fact points to his ineffectiveness as a QB.

 

[sjt18]

statistically, yes. there's marginal improvement....int's up this year though....and the biggest issue he has is his ability to throw with timing.

Hasselbeck said it best last night, JG has to see it first. to be the qb we need at the level we want to be he has to trust the route and the WR and throw it to where he's GOING to be. he has never done that with any consistency, and is his biggest issue.

i hate it for JG, cause i truly think he loves TN and wants to be "that guy"...but after 3 years of seeing him play, i can't get myself to believe he's going to be anything other than he is...incredibly frustrating to watch. i'm glad he got back in the game and got some modicum of redemption last night.

and we don't win out the way we did w/out JG's contributions the 2nd half of the season. so i take nothing away from him.

but he is what he is.

this off season is HUGE for our QB room.....we need an alpha to step up. and i honestly don't care who it is. the problem for the coaches is this: we know JG is a great practice QB, so we should expect the competition to include him to the end. it's gonna be up to the other QB's in the room to make up the difference on the practice field. which, is a good thing. competition should make them better, and if that's JG's lasting contrbution, so be it...be the guy that forces someone else to pass you on the depth chart.....there's a lot of value in that....especially on the football iq front.

anyway.......put on more steam! on to 20! GBO.

However you explain it... JG's decisions just come too slow. JG also seems to throw the ball to where the receiver is rather than where he's going to be. JG has the arm. If he had properly led Keyton on that first deep throw he has a TD. There was another throw later when he could have led Callaway across the field for a big gain but instead threw the ball where the DB could make a play.

Great post in total. Nailed it.

The door is wide open for someone to step up. Good news is there are 5 realistic candidates in the QB room plus Holiday as a wildcard.

I think BM has the potential if he digs in deep to compete with JG on a pretty level playing field by Spring ball. He needs to spend time in the film room and in the play book. He has to be able to slow down, go through his progressions, and stop trying to force the ball in.

The door for Bailey is far more open than I thought it would have been 2 weeks ago. JG's late season improvement now seems to be another anomaly like Auburn and UK. Maurer had moments and has potential but he certainly didn't make himself the obvious next choice. I thought it would be a battle between him, BM, JT, Hill, and Holiday for #2. Now... I think he could put himself in the mix for #1 if he can simply read D's and make timely, good decisions with the ball.

 

[bignewt]

Maurer is also a very good runner. We so need that tool back there.

 

[jakez4ut]

However you explain it... JG's decisions just come too slow. JG also seems to throw the ball to where the receiver is rather than where he's going to be. JG has the arm. If he had properly led Keyton on that first deep throw he has a TD. There was another throw later when he could have led Callaway across the field for a big gain but instead threw the ball where the DB could make a play.

Great post in total. Nailed it.

The door is wide open for someone to step up. Good news is there are 5 realistic candidates in the QB room plus Holiday as a wildcard.

I think BM has the potential if he digs in deep to compete with JG on a pretty level playing field by Spring ball. He needs to spend time in the film room and in the play book. He has to be able to slow down, go through his progressions, and stop trying to force the ball in.

The door for Bailey is far more open than I thought it would have been 2 weeks ago. JG's late season improvement now seems to be another anomaly like Auburn and UK. Maurer had moments and has potential but he certainly didn't make himself the obvious next choice. I thought it would be a battle between him, BM, JT, Hill, and Holiday for #2. Now... I think he could put himself in the mix for #1 if he can simply read D's and make timely, good decisions with the ball.

Bailey did himself a lot of favors this season by bulking up a bit. i think in this age of HS QB's, he's probably as ready as any other freshman that has taken over at a big time program. he has that same pedigree as some other guys we've all heard of...EAson, From, Lawrence etc.....(i'm not saying he's as good or anything...just that from what he's been prepared for, he's been preapred the same way as those guys).

at the end of the day.............the door is WIDE open. it will obviously be the most interesting and covered part of our off season.

 

[jakez4ut]

Maurer is also a very good runner. We so need that tool back there.

he needs to scare me less when he throws the ball first...lol. he has the potential, athleticism and all the intangibles....

but he's got to stop scaring the crap out of me when he throws it. he could have/should have had 2 balls picked last night......

 

[bignewt]

he needs to scare me less when he throws the ball first...lol. he has the potential, athleticism and all the intangibles....

but he's got to stop scaring the crap out of me when he throws it. he could have/should have had 2 balls picked last night......

he was right off the bench in a bowl game...he was trying to make it happen. I can't fault him for that. He also led them right down the field and made a throw on the run on third down that JG could never make.

 

[Sleegro]

Bailey did himself a lot of favors this season by bulking up a bit. i think in this age of HS QB's, he's probably as ready as any other freshman that has taken over at a big time program. he has that same pedigree as some other guys we've all heard of...EAson, From, Lawrence etc.....(i'm not saying he's as good or anything...just that from what he's been prepared for, he's been preapred the same way as those guys).

at the end of the day.............the door is WIDE open. it will obviously be the most interesting and covered part of our off season.

I think he said he actually lost 20 lbs this year but is probably stronger and leaner.

 

[jakez4ut]

he was right off the bench in a bowl game...he was trying to make it happen. I can't fault him for that. He also led them right down the field and made a throw on the run on third down that JG could never make.

i don't disagree and it's not like i'm ready to beat him with cane reeds lol...but he's been loosy goosy wiht the ball before....he didn't do anything last night to ease those concerns.

so...it's a concern....that's all.

 

[jakez4ut]

I think he said he actually lost 20 lbs this year but is probably stronger and leaner.

really? wow. well, he looks a lot different.

 

[LouderVol]

he was right off the bench in a bowl game...he was trying to make it happen. I can't fault him for that. He also led them right down the field and made a throw on the run on third down that JG could never make.

Except he did. JG inexplicably makes throws when getting hit. Calloway and Keytons catches come to mind.

You talk up a FG drive by Maurer but JG had two of those earlier. They both had the same issue. Getting into the endzone.

 

[brentcontractor]

BM seems to throw into too tight coverages that could cause interceptions. JG seems to to throw too late or overthrows that could cause interceptions. Which is easier fixed?

Someone called into a sport show this morning and actually said, "do you think the coaching staff is telling JG that he need to throw sooner". Or course they are. Wish the fix was that simple.

 

[Sleegro]

really? wow. well, he looks a lot different.

Yeah I think he said he dropped down to about 220 this year and improved his quickness and athleticism. He definitely looks like a very strong and lean 220 though. Here's Pruitt's quote about it.

The guy continues to improve every single year. If you look at where he was at going into his junior year, he was 6-5, 239 pounds. We met up there in our office and I talked to him about how we wanted him here at Tennessee, but I also talked to him about some things I thought he could improve his game on. The next year, going into his senior year, he’s lost 20 pounds. He’s probably gone from a 5.2 forty (yard dash) to a 4.8 forty (yard dash).

“The guy takes pride in the way he plays and the way he prepares. He’s like a gym rat. He’s always trying to improve his game, and if you watch him, he has improved tremendously over the course of his high school career.”

 

[GVol1966]

JG brought us back to relevancy this year as we were just 2 upset losses away from having a great year.

No he didn’t! He ended up finishing the year starting because we didn’t have a good QB.
We struggle to put up 20 points nearly every game. Just like in the bowl game.
The Defense brought us back to relevance by holding the other team to 22 points giving us a shot to win.

 

[jakez4ut]

No he didn’t! He ended up finishing the year starting because we didn’t have a good QB.
We struggle to put up 20 points nearly every game. Just like in the bowl game.
The Defense brought us back to relevance by holding the other team to 22 points giving us a shot to win.

meh.

he definitely dug us out of some holes.

problem is, he was responsible for digging some of them in the first place.

agree on the defense, that was the biggest reason for the turnaround. defense had to be basically great to compensate for the offensive woes.

at the end of the day, you credit that team for not turning their back on each other and playing the blame game. would have been easy to pile on JG. would have been easy to pile on the defense after the first two games. they kept picking him, and each other, up...and he, JG, kept fighting and would up having like 4 redepmtion stories in one season lol.