Game Thread: (5/6) Lady Vols 84 - (19/20) Kentucky 58

#752
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glv98 said:
How do you know they feel they "need to hire their husbands in order to make their lives work"? That seems like a very sexist assumption to me. And so negative. Since, as you say, so many women coaches are doing it could it be they want (not need) to work with their husbands and it works out for their lives? The Harpers have been doing it for years. You sure it's because of some "need" you wish Kellie could get rid of?

If true, all hail Jon. And also to the post coach!
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LOL! Well, no. I have no desire for her to get rid of Jon, and I never said I did.

I had simply brought up the subject when I heard three separate references to men being on their wives’ staffs, but have only once ever heard of a wife being on her husbands’s staff. The husbands of Adia Barnes, Kristy Curry, Shea Ralph and Kellie came up today.

I just find it to be an interesting microcosm of society in general, and commented on it. That’s all.

Now, I’’m admit it turned my head how much improved Tamari was this year. And then recently when I heard Jon was the guards coach and we had way too much trouble bringing the ball up the floor in the last few games, I did, again, wonder …

All that said, I would NOT choose for Jon to be replaced. This entire team’s chemistry is perfect as it is, and coaches are a huge part of what makes that chemistry good. I assume Jon is good for this team!

I also understand 100% why having married coaches is good in many ways.

I also think most people are completely missing my point of even mentioning it. And that’s okay! :D
 
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Guys and gals ,after the game I have been cleaning off my driveway and sidewalks of snow.Thought they played one heck of a game.Still making too many unforced turnovers...dribbling into double teams,throwing lazy passes ,etc ,and not setting their offense after breaking the press and taking shots too fast ,missing too many bunnies but were better at free throw line.After pointing out all the negatives ,there were just a "ton" of positives: Burrell beginning to look like her old self ...wow what a game from 3 point line;Green really stepped into game after Key left with injury and did more than yeoman's work ;Horston had so so 3 quarters of play in shooting the ball but did little things in getting others into the game and scored in the 4th quarter.

Coach Harper said ( if I heard right in her post game interview ) that Key's injury was an anlke and she was day to day.Glad we have a week off between games ...hope she can return at 100% for Georgia next Sunday.

This team has not played a really complete game yet.....the ceiling has yet to be in sight in how well they can play. Some really positives left in this season......looking forward to it.
 
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lvocd said:
LOL! Well, no. I have no desire for her to get rid of Jon, and I never said I did.

I had simply brought up the subject when I heard three separate references to men being on their wives’ staffs, but have only once ever heard of a wife being on her husbands’s staff. The husbands of Adia Barnes, Kristy Curry, Shea Ralph and Kellie came up today.

I just find it to be an interesting microcosm of society in general, and commented on it. That’s all.

Now, I’’m admit it turned my head how much improved Tamari was this year. And then recently when I heard Jon was the guards coach and we had way too much trouble bringing the ball up the floor in the last few games, I did, again, wonder …

All that said, I would NOT choose for Jon to be replaced. This entire team’s chemistry is perfect as it is, and coaches are a huge part of what makes that chemistry good. I assume Jon is good for this team!

I also understand 100% why having married coaches is good in many ways.

I also think most people are completely missing my point of even mentioning it. And that’s okay! :D
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Don't apologize. I love these ladies on this board and wish I the basketball knowledge most of them on this board have. But, saying that, it seems to me that too many are looking for a sexist remark where none exist. When that happens they are like a dog with a rag doll. Sorry ladies, I have a wife of 54 years, a daughter of 50 years, and now a granddaughter of 16 who have taught me gender fairness, and do not see any sexist remarks here
 
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lvocd said:
I also think most people are completely missing my point of even mentioning it. And that’s okay!
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If I missed your point I'm sorry. I thought your point was that women coaches are sacrificing, and once again bearing an unfair share of the family burden, by hiring their husbands. My point was we don't know that, and it seemed a bit condescending to the women to assume they all knuckled under to societal pressure.

Could be the men sacrificing for the family by not going after their own head coaching jobs.
 
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allen phillips said:
Don't apologize. I love these ladies on this board and wish I the basketball knowledge most of them on this board have. But, saying that, it seems to me that too many are looking for a sexist remark where none exist. When that happens they are like a dog with a rag doll. Sorry ladies, I have a wife of 54 years, a daughter of 50 years, and now a granddaughter of 16 who have taught me gender fairness, and do not see any sexist remarks here
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And see there’s that man ‘splaining thing again. Just having female relatives does not mean you have come down from the mountain with the last word on sexist comments. Sounds like those female relatives keep you on your toes,however, so good on you all.
 
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No problem getting home, thank you.

Speaking of pouty, Massengill apparently heard me yell about how well Kentucky's double team defense was working when Burrell and Darby's 3 pointers were falling. She turned around mouthed something in my direction and then tried to stare me down...I just stared back!

We (not me, the team) definitely got in their heads in the second half.😉

glv98 said:
I totally and officially cannot stand Howard. And I hope she plays for KY for 10 more years. They'll be better when they're rid of her. Selfish and pouty.

Please don't make us agonize over Key's injury. Sure glad there's no game this week.

Keyen Green! May have to do it alot more. She'll never lack effort or be selfish.

BTW, my post about the snow not sticking in Knoxville didn't age well. Snowing like the dickens and sticking now. LV fans be careful going home!
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lvocd said:
So was he the best person to hire for that position then? It sorta gets back to my original point of female coaches too often giving a hire to their spouse when maybe a specialist position coach might have been better.

I like Jon and am happy to have the entire family. My main point in even bringing it up is that I have noticed many, many men getting jobs coaching under their wives. And I often wonder if there might be better choices for filling those positions, but because it’s always the WOMEN who have to “keep the family unit working well,” they don’t always feel free to NOT hire their husband.
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I don't necessarily disagree, However. it is just a peculiar moment in time to bring this up just after we have had our biggest win during our best season in eons.
 
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VolBall09 said:
Lobo just said she “didn’t expect Tennessee to be as good as they are this year.”

She’s getting ready for the L. I’m so ready for it.
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She hates the LVs. It kills her to say something good about them. She was talking about our team at halftime then went straight into how great Rhyan Howard was for Ky.
 
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Does anyone know where to find the +/- and the eff stats. I can find them sometimes, but not after the last two days. I imagine they will look good for everyone!
 
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LV renaissance said:
I don't necessarily disagree, However. it is just a peculiar moment in time to bring this up just after we have had our biggest win during our best season in eons.
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I agree it was misplaced. I actually thought I was posting it in another thread, but it was already too late -- people were already responding -- by the time I realized I'd posted it in the darn game thread.

The timing of it was because I had just heard comments about assistant-coach husbands, and I guess it just set me off there for a minute. BIG MISTAKE.

So, I apologize to everyone I upset with my post.
 
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Lucy said:
And see there’s that man ‘spraining thing again.
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Hey! :mad: Jon was nowhere near Tamari when she got hurt. ;)

Getting serious for a moment, re: the wife-husband partner approach, maybe Jon and Kellie just really, really like being around each other.

For recruits and parents who value a family environment, having this arrangement would seem to be a godsend. You have several proxy moms/sisters, a dad/big brother, and little brother and sis in addition to all your teammate sisterhood.
 
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creekdipper said:
Hey! :mad: Jon was nowhere near Tamari when she got hurt. ;)

Getting serious for a moment, re: the wife-husband partner approach, maybe Jon and Kellie just really, really like being around each other.

For recruits and parents who value a family environment, having this arrangement would seem to be a godsend. You have several proxy moms/sisters, a dad/big brother, and little brother and sis in addition to all your teammate sisterhood.
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Hah! Fixed it! Typed it in about three times. Nonetheless, I’m going to keep my eye on that Jon fellow!
 
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lvocd said:
So was he the best person to hire for that position then? It sorta gets back to my original point of female coaches too often giving a hire to their spouse when maybe a specialist position coach might have been better.

I like Jon and am happy to have the entire family. My main point in even bringing it up is that I have noticed many, many men getting jobs coaching under their wives. And I often wonder if there might be better choices for filling those positions, but because it’s always the WOMEN who have to “keep the family unit working well,” they don’t always feel free to NOT hire their husband.
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I get it. But I think Jon is a good coach.
 
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#771
the_great_pumpkin said:
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mudcat 101 if you watch the game. tenn was 10 of 20 from three land. rae 4 tess 3 sara 1 jordan1 jordan 1 was breakdown of ladys who hit three's. but when i said three shoots opens of paint for jump shooters. you know what the #'s by lady vols name meaning was
 
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#772
LadyOrange said:
Sure. Jon was a guard when he played in college, so he’s never been a post coach per say.
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Which could be why is a success.

I am in my 41st year coaching basketball and I never played the game (on a team). Not in HS, not in college. never been on a BB team.

But I studied the NBA with my Dad and learned to see the game from their perspective. SO when I stepped onto a court, I had no preconceived idea of success...I only taught what I had seen and became a student of the game myself. I only had Kevin McHales footwork, Larry Bird's shot form, Gary Payton'sw floater,,etc to teach my players. I felt if they could do it so could my girls. And I was right.

Jon, being a guard and working with posts,, he brings a sense of,, what it looks like from outside the paint.
 
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