Game Thread: (7/7) Lady Vols 56 - (10/9) Connecticut 75

[glv98]

That is what the weave is supposed to be used for,,,a sequence of routes, with each BH'er looking to exploit an opening while it is happening. We have the motion, we just run it to pass time instead of looking for an opportunity while in route

Also are they supposed to be so deep, like almost half court, when they run it? Sometimes it does look pointless and time-killing bc they're so dang deep.

 

[creekdipper]

Do you know of something about JP that I haven't heard. From everything I have seen she is 100% committed

She is. Please don't indulge the trolls.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Also are they supposed to be so deep, like almost half court, when they run it? Sometimes it does look pointless and time-killing bc they're so dang deep.

The "motion/Read-React offense is about looking for scoring openings or plays,, in route.
Unless we have half-court gunners,,,then yes we need to be within one step of the arc when running our weave

 

[NeedOrange]

The Uconn girl with the odd hair color pattern, threw her hip out as a block at least 15 times and did not get called for the moving screen till very late in the game.

That's Aaliyah Edwards. If you notice UConn posts tend to set a screen with their feet wide apart. It's to make them more stable when hit. Your feet are supposed to be shoulder width. It's a violation, but it is one of the reasons that they don't get called a moving screen too often. I noticed Kellie demonstrating it to the shorter lady ref.

 

[Memvol44]

Yes, you certainly are that. You "liked" a post wanting Saunders to leave, and you vomited your asinine "well coached, etc." drivel in multiple posts.

Will Bueckers ever play again? Her health has always been in question.

You just keep doing what makes you .

Although I dont need your permission,I will . What a weak comeback ..Bit off more than you could chew??? Once again,don't ever comment on my post again umm dipper..

 

[creekdipper]

Oh,don't let "creekdipper read that. If you say UConn is well coached,it offends him or her!!!

Waiting "dipp" watcha got??!! You barked up the wrong tree..

Guess your at church or something ..don't comment on any more of my post ..Scooter

The next time you go "keyboard warrior" on someone,I suggest you know who your up against...Scooter..

That'll be $25 rent. Discounted rate for Day.

 

[Memvol44]

She is. Please don't indulge the trolls.

Hey dipp, don't go through someone else's post to name call ...scooter ..

 

[Memvol44]

That'll be $25 rent. Discounted rate for Day.

Kinda stake there ....is that all you bring???

 

[Caz]

Have been a Lady Vol fan since they began, and this year I was very excited about the wins we were getting, but always felt like the bubble would burst.

Good teams will not, and cannot, play as if it doesn't matter. Every possession is very important. Our team plays if they do not believe that.

Our men have been guilty also, of terribly careless passes. We look at the opposing player, who has an undeniable angle on the ball, yet we pass it anyone, too often right into the hands of the opponent. Another problem, when our player picks up a dribble and is double teamed, our other players stand around, thinking she will get out of instead of going toward the ball.

We take some shots that look great, but then we also take many (too many) shots which look like "hope it goes in". I would like to see a stat on how many layups we miss a game. That is strictly lack of concentration. Many of those are because we think it may be blocked, so we just sling it up into the air hoping it may magically it may drop into the basket.

We are not aggressive. We seldom go to the basket hard. We can see an opponent coming in from half court; knowing she is going to the basket, but we stand and watch instead of stepping in front of her.

As today against UCONN, we were down by 19 or 20 in the 4th quarter, and our point guard is walking the ball up the court as if we are up by 20. And then we pass the ball around until we throw it away or allow the valuable clock to be eaten up before we even attempt a shot, and then we have to take a really bad one.

We have played 23 games this year, and we still do not have a clue about getting out to guard a shooter whom we know will take any shot at any time.

There are many more, but it boils down to the fact that talent is important, and we do have a lot of potential talent, but talent can only take you so far. Heart and "want-to" takes you so much further. We simply are playing as if we do not have the "want-to".

Hope it changes, but the past 4 or 5 games have been very, very hard to watch.

Great read and I agree. I see times when we simply reach for a rebound instead of going for it aggressively and seldom get 50/50 balls.
It just seems as though we can’t break through this what is holding us back to present ourselves as a power program and win these games which is high level and lose to ones we shouldn’t have such as the AU loss. Our offense, when we don’t “freelance” starts the weave at half court and we do not make sharp cuts and allow ourselves to be pushed deep into the shot clock and either throw it away or chuck up a shot that has no chance. Yes, we don’t get out and guard a 3 point shooter and it’s been this way every year for what ever reason. Turnovers? Don’t get me started!
Our record is still very respectable, but what I now see is very disturbing and I wish we had some answers or notable improvement

 

[brassie]

I'll wait until it shows up on Netfix or network TV. I am a huge fan of Lee Childs, the author of 25+ novels on this character. I have read them all. HOWEVER, Lee Childs has added his brother to subsequent writings and fans have said the new stuff is just not the same.

I watched the first episode tonight and the Reacher character is way closer to the books than the mediocre Tom Cruise version. A big, weird guy that kicks ass, takes no names and does good stuff.

 

[creekdipper]

That is what the weave is supposed to be used for,,,a sequence of routes, with each BH'er looking to exploit an opening while it is happening. We have the motion, we just run it to pass time instead of looking for an opportunity while in route (aka,, Read and React)

BH'er? Ballhandler?

 

[KrazyVolFan]

I can feel the love up in hur, anyone else have a rough day

 

[Darth_Vol]

I can feel the love up in hur, anyone else have a rough day

Really heart healing...

 

[Coach Jumper]

I can feel the love up in hur, anyone else have a rough day

R there anything,,,but

 

[NeedOrange]

we do not make sharp cuts

Bingo -- You've been watching. It's not the offense it's the execution.

 

[creekdipper]

I watched the first episode tonight and the Reacher character is way closer to the books than the mediocre Tom Cruise version. A big, weird guy that kicks ass, takes no names and does good stuff.

In the previews, the actor looks a little too muscle-bound...like body-builder bilky instead of just a big, strong guy. He also looked a little too "pretty," I know Child has enthusiastically endorsed the new guy while still saying that he liked Cruise's performance. Does the new guy do well in the role, or does he seem like too much out of central casting (physical size notwithstanding)?

 

[glv98]

Unless we have half-court gunners,

No, sadly, we definitely do not. We don't have point blank gunners. How can a whole team of D1 basketball players shoot so poorly for so long? It's almost like a hex, we're effing jinxed. It's an LV systematic failure I guess, been going on for a decade.

Except! Sara Puckett who I truly think is a real, actual shooter. When she shoots I believe its going in. Not sure I can say that about anyone else except the occasional, just right situational Darby.

And Rae. Dang Rae who has now made the same highly predicable, heavily scouted "get to the rim "bad decision 27 consecutive times. Can you imagine how much film she's watched of her kooky playground scoop and sprawl play? Yet still doing it 4 or 5 times a game. Rae's another legit shooter and contribution is clearly as an outside and even midrange scorer. Why are they/she making this so hard? Forget the dang rim Rae.

We actually have 2 legit outside scoring threats for the first time in like never. Our offense is so starved, maybe that's a starting point.

Consistent offensive involvement for Key would be another. I can't figure out why we can't make that happen.

Also, you're still a nimrod if you blame any of this on players being lazy, slothful and overall morally disappointing. It ain't that.

 

[creekdipper]

Kinda stake there ....is that all you bring???

You just lost your deposit.

 

[Amb3096]

No, sadly, we definitely do not. We don't have point blank gunners. How can a whole team of D1 basketball players shoot so poorly for so long? It's almost like a hex, we're effing jinxed. It's an LV systematic failure I guess, been going on for a decade.

Except! Sara Puckett who I truly think is a real, actual shooter. When she shoots I believe its going in. Not sure I can say that about anyone else except the occasional, just right situational Darby.

And Rae. Dang Rae who has now made the same highly predicable, heavily scouted "get to the rim "bad decision 27 consecutive times. Can you imagine how much film she's watched of her kooky playground scoop and sprawl play? Yet still doing it 4 or 5 times a game. Rae's another legit shooter and contribution is clearly as an outside and even midrange scorer. Why are they/she making this so hard? Forget the dang rim Rae.

We actually have 2 legit outside scoring threats for the first time in like never. Our offense is so starved, maybe that's a starting point.

Consistent offensive involvement for Key would be another. I can't figure out why we can't make that happen.

Walker, Puckett, Darby and Burrell are all solid outside shooters that you can't leave open. I'd say that's 4 legit outside scoring threats. There's no reason that teams should be able to swarm Rae inside and not pay for it with some made open 3's. But I do give credit to the UConn posts today. They were able to handle Key 1-on-1 and forced Tennessee to resort to hero ball.

Agree on Rae just playing mindlessly today. She kept going inside and wouldn't take "no" for an answer, even when ONO/Edwards kept stuffing her shot.

 

[Luna2012]

Lots of empty seats @ 4 minutes to tipoff..

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15,558 and the cheapest ticket was $25

 

[Volfan1000]

The Lady Vols looked very lethargic in their performance this afternoon.

 

[Caz]

Bingo -- You've been watching. It's not the offense it's the execution.

Total lack of execution when we don’t run the opposing player of a screen and have our offense get the ball on the elbows instead of holding the ball around half court hoping someone else will get open to throw it to.

 

[creekdipper]

We have three coaches who have all served as head coaches. Numerous resources exist breaking down different offenses along with multiple televised games per week. It's not as though there's some secret recipe out there known only to a select few gurus.

Why wouldn't any coach run the most efficient, high-scoring offense available that their athletes can handle? We've all seen less physically-talented teams run incredibly efficient offenses that got good shots for the players and exploited opponents' weaknesses.

 

[glv98]

Walker, Puckett, Darby and Burrell are all solid outside shooters that you can't leave open. I'd say that's 4 legit outside scoring threats.

Much as I love me some JoJo, she's better this season but not legit to me yet, not like Rae and Sara. Darby is so situational I'd give her half a legit at best. So 2 1/2 legits for me, but that's way more than we usually have.

Why wouldn't any coach run the most efficient, high-scoring offense available that their athletes can handle?

I think they think they do go into every game with a brilliant game plan. But getting the players to implement that on any kind of consistent basis is the magic trick of coaching. KJH said she kept telling them against FLA to just run the plays, but sometimes things get willy nilly and they get away from the plan. Loss of poise causes bad decisions and we're off to the races.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

This goes back to what a lot of posters have been saying about the recruiting needing to get better, but getting shot down as if getting players like Puckett, Striplin, Wynn, Miles is just as good as a Ducharme or Fudd. Azzi is a freshman who ended up playing bigger minutes today because of an injury to another freshman (who also had to end up playing bigger minutes previously due to injury), and had a career game. I think Striplin will eventually "get it" and be an important part of the rotation, but she will never do to an elite team what Fudd did to Tennessee today. Bottom line is that Tennessee needs to find a way to entice players at the same level as Fudd to play for Tennessee so they too can have some 5-star talent on the bench to call upon when needed.

Never understand why people keep saying we need to get top recruits, when that’s such a ‘well duh’ comment. I do love our Freshmen, and look forward to the future with them, and none were in the top ten lists of recruits, yet Kellie has far exceeded what many expected this year to look like, after the graduation of Rennia, and then the loss of Rae for 12 games.

Still, I do not think it’s fair to criticize Kellie by comparing our Freshmen players to UConn’s, when their Coach has had literally decades of recruiting at the top level, and our Freshmen class was recruited in Kellie’s second year here. Thrilled we got them, especially since this was during a time of no visits because of Covid, yet Coaches like Geno had been seeing and recruiting that class for years.

Kellie knows what needs to be done. We know she searches the portal, graduate players, European players, probably players we have never heard of, like Justine. Takes time, and I do not think she is wasting any time concerning recruiting. Btw, I do think Sara will become a Star.

GO LADY VOLS!!!