Gay families become more accepted in america

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volinbham said:
I think the article mentions the bias and makes the point that the real finding is that kids raised in same-sex couples are not "screwed-up" as some have suggested they would be --- not that they are somehow superior.
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I see that. My point is that any study conducted by any group with a bias at all, I am going to question it's findings. It's the pessimist in me.
 
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droski said:
the article rightfully points out that gays who have kids are far more likely to have wanted the kids and therefore be more commited as parents. i bet if you compare like parents you wouldn't see much of a difference.
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I agree 100%.
 
#29
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Is there really an any choice but to accept gay families? Pass that point a long time ago.
 
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Co. Aytch said:
Is there really an any choice but to accept gay families? Pass that point a long time ago.
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Well, you could always try to push Congress to replace the Federal Income Tax with a National Consumption Tax (presumably the Fair Tax) and then make the move to wholly remove the government from the institution of marriage. Let community organizations (churches, social clubs, etc.) officiate and sanction whatever marriages they want. Allow anyone without a history of violent crime and/or child abuse adopt any children that are up for adoption.
 
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No problem with it, as long as the lesbian couple does not throw the post soccer game pizza party. The strong smell of patchouli scented everything would be too much for me to handle.
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therealUT said:
Well, you could always try to push Congress to replace the Federal Income Tax with a National Consumption Tax (presumably the Fair Tax) and then make the move to wholly remove the government from the institution of marriage. Let community organizations (churches, social clubs, etc.) officiate and sanction whatever marriages they want. Allow anyone without a history of violent crime and/or child abuse adopt any children that are up for adoption.
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I like all of it, though I would suggest just dropping income tax and not replacing it with anything. If you completely removed income tax, we'd generate the same amount of tax revenue we had 12 years ago. Yup, that's how fast government is growing.
 
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therealUT said:
Well, you could always try to push Congress to replace the Federal Income Tax with a National Consumption Tax (presumably the Fair Tax) and then make the move to wholly remove the government from the institution of marriage. Let community organizations (churches, social clubs, etc.) officiate and sanction whatever marriages they want. Allow anyone without a history of violent crime and/or child abuse adopt any children that are up for adoption.
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Now who's smoking weed....

I kid, I kid. Am in favor of above proposal.
 
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IMO the show modern family probably helped make it more excecptiable. JMO folks I really don't care, if they are happy then so be it. It ain't none of my business.
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Coach Grizz said:
IMO the show modern family probably helped make it more excecptiable. JMO folks I really don't care, if they are happy then so be it. It ain't none of my business.
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Will & Grace?

I don't think enough people watch Modern Family to have that big of an impact on societal norms, and it's only been on the air for like 2 years. This was a long drawn out process.
 
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nbakerld said:
Will & Grace?

I don't think enough people watch Modern Family to have that big of an impact on societal norms, and it's only been on the air for like 2 years. This was a long drawn out process.
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Ehhh it's a pretty popular show my friend, I watch it every wendsday. Idk about will and grace I've never seen it
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Coach Grizz said:
Ehhh it's a pretty popular show my friend, I watch it every wendsday. Idk about will and grace I've never seen it
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Yeah, I like the show a lot myself. And I agree it's popular, but with only 10 million viewers a week (and probably most of them are already more open to the notion of gay marriage) I am not sure it has that great of an impact on society. That's all I'm saying.

And the Will & Grace thing was a joke. :pepper:
 
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droski said:
enjoy

Meet the same-sex parents next door - CNN.com

The U.S. National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study (NLLFS), which followed the children of 154 lesbian mothers over 25 years, reported that our teens had fewer behavioral problems and better school performance than their peers with straight parents.

In fact, a recent survey by the Pew Research Center and commissioned by Time magazine found that most Americans' view of what constitutes a family is loosening. Three out of five people said they view a same-sex couple with kids as a family, too.
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Not to be Mr Obvious here but that study is hardly from an unbiased group and is anecdotal at best.

If someone on the opposite side proposed a study of 154 lesbian mothers that showed their children were emotionally maladjusted... people here would be going absolutely nuts about bias and conjured up evidence.
 
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FWIW, I am not opposed to legalized drugs so long as the user bears the full consequences for their choices. No tax money should be used to rescue them from themselves.

As far as I am concerned, homosexuals have a much right to parent a child as I do.

I still oppose homosexual marriage primarily because of the implications to rights and freedoms related to religion, property, commerce, and association.
 
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droski said:
154 mothers is anecdotal?
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Yes. How could it not be? It is unlikely to even be representative. I cannot find a statistical justification for the sample, can you? Basically you have a study of 154 women and their children that may render no conclusions statistically predictive or valid for anyone outside of that group.

"Planned" gives us a clue. It would relate to women affluent enough to afford and use artificial insemination. That would hardly be a cross section of mothers hetero or homosexual.
 
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