George Floyd Protest/Riots

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volbeast33 said:
I’m not sure if it was from the body cam or not.... it showed him resisting as they were trying to put him in the patrol car....he put his feet and hands up on the outside of the door pushing back as hard as he could not letting them put him in the patrol car.
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I saw the same video.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I've heard the opposite. A passenger can have an open container but the driver cannot. I think TN is one of the few states in the nation with this type of "pass the bottle" law. A few years ago there was a Haslam supported push in the legislature for an open container prohibition, but I don't think it passed.
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It wouldn't be hard to give the driver a breathalizer while allowing the passenger to have a beer. If the driver refuses the breathalizer, the law presumes guilt anyway, so...
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Why would you be OK with the key part? Would you be fine with the law written to assume conviction of murder because you have a concealed carry permit and you're angry with your spouse?

What other law short-cuts proof of having committed the offense like this one does? Or writes in the guilt based on the fact that you may do it in the future just because circumstances make that offense possible?
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Because you are physically in control of a running vehicle at that point. All you have to do is accidentally or intentionally put the car in gear and you could cause harm.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I've heard the opposite. A passenger can have an open container but the driver cannot. I think TN is one of the few states in the nation with this type of "pass the bottle" law. A few years ago there was a Haslam supported push in the legislature for an open container prohibition, but I don't think it passed.
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Could be.

All I know is I am not letting anyone into my car with an open container.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Last I heard, there are no TN state open container laws, but most cities have ordinances that ban them. I know that's not GA, but that was TN when I was presented this info in ~2007.
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I know it's a no go in GA. I thought it was the same in TN.

Not something I put to the test.
 
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KB5252 said:
Because you are physically in control of a running vehicle at that point. All you have to do is accidentally or intentionally put the car in gear and you could cause harm.
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It didn't say that it was running.

So, if you had an argument with your wife, and owned a loaded weapon, you're cool writing the law that that makes you guilty of murder? That's the logic.

Bolded is chicken-**** logic for protection of our rights.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
It didn't say that it was running.

So, if you had an argument with your wife, and owned a loaded weapon, you're cool writing the law that that makes you guilty of murder? That's the logic.

Bolded is chicken-**** logic for protection of our rights.
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The equivalent to your argument is pointing the gun at her, which is a crime, just not murder. I'm fine with a lesser charge on the books unless the car is running, if so it's DUI IMO because your are physically in control of a running vehicle.
 
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utvolpj said:
they've shown to be little more than window dressing in some places with no duty to protect anyone. It's actually disheartening to drop off my kids and see them but they're likely a deterrent in my county
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"Disheartening to see them"? Huh? why is that? 99% of kids (especially elementary/middle school age) have great relationships with their SROs
 
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LouderVol said:
Could be.

All I know is I am not letting anyone into my car with an open container.
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In 20 plus years i have only cited one person for open container and there was a reason for that.


Some of these laws are complained about but rarely really enforced by officers on a consistent basis
 
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Orange_Crush said:
It didn't say that it was running.

So, if you had an argument with your wife, and owned a loaded weapon, you're cool writing the law that that makes you guilty of murder? That's the logic.

Bolded is chicken-**** logic for protection of our rights.
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There are basically two elements to the crime

- Are you currently in control of a vehicle?
- Are you intoxicated?

So you are actively doing both of those current actions to get arrested
 
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