Georgia game will come down to calls by Offensive Coordinators

#27
#27
I'm not sure what yall mean by vanilla calls. We take 6-7 shots per game and the box dictates how many time we run per game. This is what "take what the defense gives u looks like." If we stop overthrowing and dropping passes we would easily be the #1 offense in the country. That's not play calling that's execution. Realistically every play call can be a big play if you execute the play. Just like if you're not executing, it doesn't matter what play was called.
Holy ****, common sense just entered the chat....
 
#29
#29
Play calling has got to be better. You can't have Dylan Sampson run into the line 3 times straight all the time. If you're UGA why would you not key on him all the time? I don't have the answers but a novice can predict where the ball is going most of the time.
We need the same playcalling we had against Alabama. Players need to execute aswell. If those two happen, TN wins by multiple scores.
 
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#30
#30
This game will come down to if our pass rush gets to Beck and if our DBs can get their WRs off their routes. Lane's guys showed the blueprint. Our defense is better than Ole Miss, but they are close. Then we just have to execute on offense. Catch the dang ball.
 
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Play calling has got to be better. You can't have Dylan Sampson run into the line 3 times straight all the time. If you're UGA why would you not key on him all the time? I don't have the answers but a novice can predict where the ball is going most of the time.
Funny how a novice like you can just easily know where the ball is going but coaches that get paid millions don’t. You really should be a D1 coach. Wonder why you aren’t?
 
#33
#33
Sigh. Playcalling has been fine. We’ve missed several open plays, had drops, fumbles, etc. This team has left a ton of points on the field this year. Now there have been some series that were wasted series imho where Heupel was going to burn clock and force the other team to use TOs.

By and large the play calling has been limited bc you’ve got a first year QB and early on we had a sub par Oline.

Playcalling has been terrible especially on 3rd down. The nico excuse is played out.
 
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I'm not sure what yall mean by vanilla calls. We take 6-7 shots per game and the box dictates how many time we run per game. This is what "take what the defense gives u looks like." If we stop overthrowing and dropping passes we would easily be the #1 offense in the country. That's not play calling that's execution. Realistically every play call can be a big play if you execute the play. Just like if you're not executing, it doesn't matter what play was called.

We have virtually no intermediate passing game. There are more plays than a wheel route or throwing across the field 40 yards on a 1 yard hit hitch where we get called for holding half the time and tackled for a 2 yard gain the other half. The 3rd down calls are awful too. Yea you might think you can get 3-4 yards running the ball and plan on going for it on 4th but when you’re tackled for no gain and punt it’s for nothing. Just call a play that gives you a realistic chance to pick it up to begin with.
 
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Playcalling has been terrible especially on 3rd down. The nico excuse is played out.
Film studies disagree. The plays are there, but there is a breakdown in 1 of 3 areas: Nico taking too long to process, WRs dropping a catchable pass, or OL blown assignment.

The Film Guy Network on YouTube broke down the UF and Bama games and showed we left A TON of points on the board from poor execution, not poor play calling.
 
#37
#37
It isn't Heupel, the OC, or the playcalling. Nico and the WRs have to execute better. What they've been doing ties the hands of a play caller.
Uh, actually it really has been Heupel, the OC and the play calling, at least in terms of running the ball straight up the middle multiple times in a row and on 3rd and long when the box is stacked. Even a Heisman candidate needs something better called every now and then. They seem to insist that something is there when it’s clear nothing is there.
 
#38
#38
We have virtually no intermediate passing game. There are more plays than a wheel route or throwing across the field 40 yards on a 1 yard hit hitch where we get called for holding half the time and tackled for a 2 yard gain the other half. The 3rd down calls are awful too. Yea you might think you can get 3-4 yards running the ball and plan on going for it on 4th but when you’re tackled for no gain and punt it’s for nothing. Just call a play that gives you a realistic chance to pick it up to begin with.
I'm going to say it again for the people in the back. The defense dictates where the ball is going. It's a read and react offense. The defense has to give up something and they choose to give up the quick screen. Only an idiot wouldn't throw the ball out there when they're inviting it. As far as running on 3rd down goes it still comes down to execution not the playcall. It's smart to run on 3rd if you're planning to go for it on 4th. If you get no gain that means you didn't execute the play. You ain't gonna say stop throwing on first down because the pass was incomplete are you?? It's real easy to criticize playcalling from home, but are you watching the All 22? Do u know what the playcalls are?? Are you reading these defenses to know what will and won't work?? Do u know the keys these guys are reading??
 
#39
#39
I'm going to say it again for the people in the back. The defense dictates where the ball is going. It's a read and react offense. The defense has to give up something and they choose to give up the quick screen. Only an idiot wouldn't throw the ball out there when they're inviting it. As far as running on 3rd down goes it still comes down to execution not the playcall. It's smart to run on 3rd if you're planning to go for it on 4th. If you get no gain that means you didn't execute the play. You ain't gonna say stop throwing on first down because the pass was incomplete are you?? It's real easy to criticize playcalling from home, but are you watching the All 22? Do u know what the playcalls are?? Are you reading these defenses to know what will and won't work?? Do u know the keys these guys are reading??

I know at some point you have to call a play and just execute it. We should’ve been able to run all over these 3 man fronts but we haven’t. You might be able to see how the defense lines up but you “can’t take what they give you” until you snap the ball.
 
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Everyone knows UT has a really good defense that has come up big in the ranked games this season. Georgia has had problems with their offensive line this year in their big games. With no one knowing if we are going to have Nico back as a starting QB against GA, the win will come down to who calls a better game for each offense. VOLS have to do a better job at 1). Tempo..........UT has really come off the fast starting offense at the first of the year. Lack of tempo seems to be a drive killer by the Vols, along with missed or dropped passes by Nico and the receivers. 2). Offensive play calling seems to be getting more vanilla and predictable by the minute. Joey Halzle has to either call a better game by realizing that SEC coaches have seen most if not all offensive plays by UT, or use plays that were so explosive last year by our receivers that have not even been called yet by Halzle (where Jalin Hyatt lined up tight behind left offensive guard then runs down left side to catch a long pass). We have the talent, but is not being used to the UT receivers' collective abilities. 3). Offensive scheme has go become less predictable. Our scheming has less elusiveness than it did last year. Yes, I know we have a red-shirt freshman in Nico, but at least throw some less predictable schemes including a wildcat package with other backs. Mike Bobo has quite a few schemes with use by their receiving corp than we do. When their offense clicks, they score a ton of points, even against good teams.
Agree.
 
#41
#41
Simple take care of the FOOTBALL and dont make dumb mistakes and we can beat them.
This. Kirby is going to throw the entire kitchen sink at Nico or Moore. They have to know when not to make bad decisions. We can’t give them short fields and extra possessions. If we pull what we did in the first half against Bama we will lose.
 
#42
#42
It’s not been one single thing that’s kept the passing game from breaking out. One game Nico will have open receivers and miss them and the next game Nico will hit them for what would be TD throws and the receivers drop them. If they were to ever put it all together look out! Maybe this will be the week
 
#43
#43
Pound the rock, but we have to work in counter plays and misdirections, not just a steady diet of off tackle left. Passing game…loosen them up with quick slants and some crossing patterns. Have to throw more to the TE on xing routes, let them just drift out into the middle and also to Sampson or a TE on a wheel routes. Don’t turn it over and get to Beck quickly.
 
#44
#44
This. Kirby is going to throw the entire kitchen sink at Nico or Moore. They have to know when not to make bad decisions. We can’t give them short fields and extra possessions. If we pull what we did in the first half against Bama we will lose.
Yes, i think this is where you really need to drive in the "Extend the play if its not there, throw it 6 rows deep in the stands."
 
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Uh, actually it really has been Heupel, the OC and the play calling, at least in terms of running the ball straight up the middle multiple times in a row and on 3rd and long when the box is stacked. Even a Heisman candidate needs something better called every now and then. They seem to insist that something is there when it’s clear nothing is there.
Uh, UT leads the SEC and is first among P4 programs in rushing. They're averaging over 5 ypc.

Those middle runs aren't "called" per se. The O walks to the line, counts the number of hats in the box, and either hands off for an inside run or throws. This is the basic Heupel run/pass read option. You spread the WRs to the boundaries forcing the D to show you their alignment. Usually they're keying off one guy who is either cheating to cover or cheating to run stop.

You literally cannot run that play outside the tackles. If you pull defenders outside with your WR splits then why in the world would you then run outside?

Now if you are somehow whining about being #1 in the SEC in rushing by more than 10% better than #2... that's on you.

FWIW, Heupel has produced good rushing results since arriving. This one is his best through 10 games.
 
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#48
#48
No matter how many offensive sputters we have, we have to prevent putting our defense in bad field position. This game is going to be UGLY
This has the potential to be fought in a telephone booth. We can’t do what Texas did . UGA’s offense really didn’t play all that well, but they punched Texas in the mouth and put their D in bad spots.
 
#49
#49
PS- had not noticed but this O is on pace to be Heupel's least productive passing O. They would have to throw 9 TDs in the last 3 games and average around 270 ypg over 4 games (only done vs Chatt and UK) to beat the Milton O. They already have more INTs than the previous Os.
 
#50
#50
Uh, UT leads the SEC and is first among P4 programs in rushing. They're averaging over 5 ypc.

Those middle runs aren't "called" per se. The O walks to the line, counts the number of hats in the box, and either hands off for an inside run or throws. This is the basic Heupel run/pass read option. You spread the WRs to the boundaries forcing the D to show you their alignment. Usually they're keying off one guy who is either cheating to cover or cheating to run stop.

You literally cannot run that play outside the tackles. If you pull defenders outside with your WR splits then why in the world would you then run outside?

Now if you are somehow whining about being #1 in the SEC in rushing by more than 10% better than #2... that's on you.

FWIW, Heupel has produced good rushing results since arriving. This one is his best through 10 games.

Most of that has been padding the stats against extremely weak teams. We probably have the most one dimensional zone read there is but I guess we can see why after Saturday.
 

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