Georgia will dominate college football for the next 3 years

[Secfan18]

UGA is the weakest of the final four, imo. Doubt they win this year. My money is on a Clemson repeat.

I don't think Georgia wins it this year, but Bama is the weakest, sure they had some injuries on the defensive side of the ball, but they weren't going both ways. Bama's offense is horrible, Hurts might be a great college RB but for a QB of an elite team he is terrible. Clemson uses the same formula as last year and beats Bama like a drum. OU will likely beat Clemson in the championship game unless Clemson's DL can get to Mayfield before he rapes Clemson's secondary.

 

[Secfan18]

Meh. Georgia will end up being Ole Miss 2.0.

Signing a killer class is one thing. Flipping 5 Star kids from OSU and Alabama and from all over the nation at will. I’m not buying it. Saban, Urban, Dabo can’t even pull that type of class off like that. They could possibly have 7 5* players in ONE class. Kirby must have dug up a bitcoin ATM down there in Athens to pay those kids.

So you see no difference in Georgia and OM? Are you overlooking Georgia just won the SEC and are in the college playoffs? I don't remember OM winning the SEC the year they signed that big class. Of those 7 5* you speak of, 4 of them are from Georgia, aren't they suppose to stay home and play for the home team? You are also overlooking the fact Kirby Smart was Bama's elite recruiter his entire time there, he was alway the point man on anyone they really wanted regardless of position. But the only way Georgia can recruit well is by cheating, what's going to be said about UT if we ever sign the number 1 class?

 

[LittleVol]

I'll predict Oklahoma will boat race GA

So many people think this.

Good defense always beats good offense. UGA has the best rushing attack OU will ever see. Frohm is poised and really puts energy into that UGA team.

Houston Cougars vs Oklahoma 2016.

That is a game people need to watch if they want to see what this game may be like before played.

UGA is a bigger more physical version of Houston early season last year. And just as fast..

38-14 UGA over OU.

 

[OriginalCoach]

So many people think this.

Good defense always beats good offense. UGA has the best rushing attack OU will ever see. Frohm is poised and really puts energy into that UGA team.

Houston Cougars vs Oklahoma 2016.

That is a game people need to watch if they want to see what this game may be like before played.

UGA is a bigger more physical version of Houston early season last year. And just as fast..

38-14 UGA over OU.

Flip the script. Auburn 40 Dawgs 17. Using HOU-OK game from a year ago is useless. Agreed the UGA Defense is good, but are they really THAT good? Just don't buy it. Best defense in this semi will be the offenses for both teams.

 

[TennTom]

Jake Fromm is a 4 year player. He's not a stud NFL prospect. Arm talent isn't elite. He's a functional QB with a limited pro ceiling.

Doubtful. He has the 6th best passer efficiency rating in the country, AS A FRESHMAN.

Once again your predictions are why no one really takes you seriously around here.

ESPN predicts Georgia QB Jake Fromm will be No. 1 pick in 2020 NFL Draft

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Here I am rubbernecking again at yet another D4H car wreck.

 

[TDawg]

I trashed the NFL potential of players on the Alabama defense. I never trashed their coaching. I've said many times their coaching is as good as it gets.

When it comes to Kirby vs Pruitt, I think both are very similar. Great recruiters and great at coaching. Difference is Pruitt is more business like while Kirby is a players coach. I think the business like approach has more staying power than the buddy buddy approach.

Don't take this as a diss to Kirby. He's a great coach. But so is Pruitt. Those matchups will come down to how the ball bounces.

1. YES, you did trash their defense and NOT just pro potential. There is a thread in here, and maybe bamawriter can pull it up, where you stated that this was the LEAST talented Bama defense they have had in the Saban era.

2. Your assessment of Kirby shows full well what we all already know. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! The buddy buddy approach?? Seriously???? No one close to that program would hear that and not believe it must have been a blind and deaf guy making that statement. Just stop man. Please stop. You literally just blindly made a statement that shows even when you don't know about thing about someone, you will throw something out there anyway. Kirby's business like approach is EXACTLY why they didn't keep their heads in their asses and went out and put Auburn away the second time.

 

[TDawg]

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What do you base this on? I'm just asking as a SEC fan. UT didn't win a SEC game this season, is not going to have a quality class this year, and will have a rough time of it next season, perhaps mirroring this season.

I liked CJP as a DC at UGA, and wanted Kirby to retain him. But there was so much conflict between Pruitt and Richt that Kirby didn't keep him. And now I'm glad that Kirby hired Tucker over Pruitt. Pruitt's a good DC and excels when he has the talent, but does UT have the defensive roster that UGA and Bama had?

So my question is, how does UT jump over Georgia (as you say), Bama, Auburn, USCe, even UK, MSU, A&M, etc. and become a SEC powerhouse in such a short period, given all of the hurdles that it faces? Remember, CJP has never HC'd a down of football, so you don't know how he'll respond to the pressure of SEC HC'ing. He could be great, he could be a total bust, or he could be something in between. The great ones don't come along very often.

It's great to have optimism, but you have to temper it with some realism or you put your HC in a tough position. And then you start writing on rocks and stuff when he doesn't pull off the impossible. :hi:

You know you're talking about a guy who has predicted or stated the following:

Dobbs would win the Heisman
Dobbs will be an NFL HoFer and is more talented than Deshaun Watson
Dan Bituli and Darren Kirkland are more talented and have more pro potential than Roquan Smith
Jalen Hurd was as good as Eddie George in 2015
The 2016/2017 Vols will have 6 or 7 NFL HoFers

This is the guy you are asking to temper his optimism with realism.

 

[TDawg]

You’re wrong on UT not having a quality class. Pruitt and company will finish very strong for the short amount of time they’ve been here. Hell, we moved up 30 spots in the early signing period so far with it being their second week, that’s impressive. Just get ready.

Well, I think he is referring to the fact that it's still not in the top 25 and UT has had what some would consider a strong class just in decommits. Losing one QB and, by most counts, pushing out another (which I think was a mistake, Penix will be VERY good) may prove to be very costly.

 

[Vol0725]

I don't like saying this because I wish it wasn't going happen but get ready for a lot of talk that Georgia is the new Alabama going forward.

Georgia will win the national title in 2017 and 2019. I've been saying for a couple of months now that this is Georgia's year. Next season will be a slight rebuild for them because they are losing so many seniors after this year. However, with how they're recruiting, they will be overwhelming favorites to win it all in 2019 and 2020. They will be young, experienced, and talented those 2 seasons. I think they win it all one of those seasons (most likely in 2019).

This is Georgia's world right now and we're all just living in it.

It's possible. They've got as much of a chance as any of the other teams that have been within the Top 10 recruiting classes over the past 4-5 years. And those that continue to stay within Top 10 'on average'. Tons of stats and evidence to support that fact, recruiting class ranks are highly correlated to championships.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You can make your infallible predictions on Vol Nation or go to Vegas and make those predictions and be $et for life. He chose to post here.

Notice that D4H never answers anybody's response to his 'predictions'. It's all good though., because I don't read anything he wrote after the first one anyway.

 

[BIG BOI 23]

Clemson will still be a factor. But Alabama is done. It was fun while it lasted but all dynasties end.

This so called Georgia dynasty you’re harping on about hasn’t even beaten Bama yet lol

My guess is playing the tide instead of a Auburn will make getting in the playoff a little tougher

But hey you wanna crown they ass crown em!

 

[BIG BOI 23]

Fromm ain’t beating those defenses of Bama and Clemson and out dueling Mayfield in back to back weeks if he does well he would of proven more in 2 weeks then he has all year

 

[checkerboards09]

Fromm ain’t beating those defenses of Bama and Clemson and out dueling Mayfield in back to back weeks if he does well he would of proven more in 2 weeks then he has all year

I don’t think so either. I’m pulling for Oklahoma to win it all, but you know how it is if Saban gets a second chance to do something big. I hate to say it, but I think Bama wins another one.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Basically Josh Dobbs 2.0

You wish.

Dobbs will be as good as any QB in NFL history.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

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What do you base this on? I'm just asking as a SEC fan. UT didn't win a SEC game this season, is not going to have a quality class this year, and will have a rough time of it next season, perhaps mirroring this season.

I liked CJP as a DC at UGA, and wanted Kirby to retain him. But there was so much conflict between Pruitt and Richt that Kirby didn't keep him. And now I'm glad that Kirby hired Tucker over Pruitt. Pruitt's a good DC and excels when he has the talent, but does UT have the defensive roster that UGA and Bama had?

So my question is, how does UT jump over Georgia (as you say), Bama, Auburn, USCe, even UK, MSU, A&M, etc. and become a SEC powerhouse in such a short period, given all of the hurdles that it faces? Remember, CJP has never HC'd a down of football, so you don't know how he'll respond to the pressure of SEC HC'ing. He could be great, he could be a total bust, or he could be something in between. The great ones don't come along very often.

It's great to have optimism, but you have to temper it with some realism or you put your HC in a tough position. And then you start writing on rocks and stuff when he doesn't pull off the impossible. :hi:

This is college football. Things can change quickly. Ohio State went from 5-7 to national champions in 3 years. Look at how quickly Kirby turned Georgia around. Tennessee had a horrible season this year but they did have back to back 9 win seasons in 2015 and 2016. They are not far removed from being pretty good.

Jeremy Pruitt will recruit at an elite level. And I believe he's a great in-game coach. That should help him turn around Tennessee quickly.

2018 might be a rough season but 2019 will be the turnaround season.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Doubtful. He has the 6th best passer efficiency rating in the country, AS A FRESHMAN.

Once again your predictions are why no one really takes you seriously around here.

ESPN predicts Georgia QB Jake Fromm will be No. 1 pick in 2020 NFL Draft

LOL. Remember when Matt Barkley was supposed to be a lock to be the #1 pick in 2013 after he decided to stay for his senior year. He ended up falling to the 4th round.

You really going to believe something ESPN says about a guy 3 years before he's even draft eligible? I can promise you there isn't a single NFL draft evaluator that has watched Fromm's film. Thus that link is laughable. Its just college football writers going by college success and assuming the NFL will also be impressed.

Jake Fromm doesn't have the elite physical tools to be a high draft pick. His size and arm are average. He's not incredibly athletic. He's got nice poise and leadership attributes. But those attributes alone aren't enough to make you a three year player.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You know you're talking about a guy who has predicted or stated the following:

Dobbs would win the Heisman
Dobbs will be an NFL HoFer and is more talented than Deshaun Watson
Dan Bituli and Darren Kirkland are more talented and have more pro potential than Roquan Smith
Jalen Hurd was as good as Eddie George in 2015
The 2016/2017 Vols will have 6 or 7 NFL HoFers

This is the guy you are asking to temper his optimism with realism.

Everything else is accurate. But that part is a lie. I've never said we had 6 or 7 Hall of Famers. I've only cited 3 future Hall of Famers on the 2016 Vols (Dobbs, Kamara, and Sutton). And I said this before the draft last year.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

1. YES, you did trash their defense and NOT just pro potential. There is a thread in here, and maybe bamawriter can pull it up, where you stated that this was the LEAST talented Bama defense they have had in the Saban era.

2. Your assessment of Kirby shows full well what we all already know. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT! The buddy buddy approach?? Seriously???? No one close to that program would hear that and not believe it must have been a blind and deaf guy making that statement. Just stop man. Please stop. You literally just blindly made a statement that shows even when you don't know about thing about someone, you will throw something out there anyway. Kirby's business like approach is EXACTLY why they didn't keep their heads in their asses and went out and put Auburn away the second time.

So judging Alabama against their own standard means now they're garbage? Look I know you're trying to parse everything I post but I've made my views very clear and they are consistent. Alabama has been the best program in college football. They have set an incredibly high standard. While they might not produce NFL stars as much as one would think given their college success but they do produce a lot of college stars.

In terms of the standard Alabama has set, the 2017 Alabama team had less talent than before. Just like the 2018 Alabama recruiting class has not been up to the standard Alabama has set in the past. A 6th ranked recruiting class isn't bad. But given the standard Alabama has set it's garbage. It was in that vein I was talking about when it comes to the talent on the team.

 

[QuickSmurf]

They are 2017 SEC champions.

A lot of you consider Gator fans arrogant, but Tennessee folks are the only fan base I know that belittle schools hat actually achieve things.

Not all of us do that. As a matter if fact I don't get on UGA or UF boards trolling.

 

[TDawg]

Agree 100%. Fields is a future NFL star but I doubt he starts at Georgia either. This is Jake Fromm's team for the next 3 years. Fields will transfer in 2020 after spending 2 years on the bench.

Fields will make his legend at another school.

Another doozy! Did Tim Tebow sit and watch in 2006 when it was Chris Leak's team?????

Did DJ Shockley sit when he came in and it was David Greene's team???

Transfer in 2020? Utter incompetence is what causes someone to make a statement like this!!!

 

[TDawg]

Everything else is accurate. But that part is a lie. I've never said we had 6 or 7 Hall of Famers. I've only cited 3 future Hall of Famers on the 2016 Vols (Dobbs, Kamara, and Sutton). And I said this before the draft last year.

Splitting hairs here man ... you did say crap like 6/7 pro bowlers or something but whatever .. again, you are on posts earlier taking cracks at sports writers but I would say their resume is probably a bit better than yours in terms of making predictions.

So, what qualifies you to judge talent and make predictions on people's careers? I'll be here to listen ..

 

[TDawg]

You wish.

Dobbs will be as good as any QB in NFL history.

No Dawg fan is hoping for Fromm to be compared to a QB who, by any measure, didn't accomplish anything while in college. Had he switched to RB in the NFL, I'd say he had a shot of becoming something but he isn't as good a passer as Tebow and, well, maybe Dobbs can sit next to him on the SEC network one day.

Again, like the previous post, what qualifies you to make these predictions?

 

[NashVol11]

Doubtful. He has the 6th best passer efficiency rating in the country, AS A FRESHMAN.

Once again your predictions are why no one really takes you seriously around here.

ESPN predicts Georgia QB Jake Fromm will be No. 1 pick in 2020 NFL Draft

Fromm isn’t that good. Part of the reason Georgia has been successful is that starting Fromm forced Chaney to build his offense around the run, against his tendencies. QBs in offenses like that, even if they’re Alex Smith or Blake Bortles or Blake Sims at Alabama, tend to look “efficient.” He won’t be #1 anything, and Eason might well get picked ahead of him.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You wish.

Dobbs will be as good as any QB in NFL history.

I really like Dobbs, but get some help man.