Ghislaine Maxwell

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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't buy that for a minute. It's political partisan spin on the data (it's under an opinion column - those are not facts)... but like I said, if the unemployment rate wasn't 4.8% in January of 2017... then it wasn't 3.5% in February of 2020 either. You can't have it both ways.
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You wouldn’t know a fact if it walked up and kicked you
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You shouldn't be so ambiguous. It's not clear who #1 or #2 are.... When Obama and Biden left office, the unemployment rate was at 4.8%. It is currently over 10% ... and Trump has frequently struggled with reading teleprompters himself. I would remind you of Trump's July 4th speech where he said this clusterf*** :

"In the fields and jungles of Vietnam, they delivered a swift and swippian... you know that was sweeping. It was swift and it was sweeping like nobody's ever seen happen." - President Donald Trump, July 4th speech

And let's face it, Biden isn't the one boasting about passing a test given to Alzheimer's patients. There really isn't one form of criticism that you can levy at Joe Biden, which can't also be applied to Donald Trump, twofold.
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I don't think you can hold the current rate against Trump. Unless you are like me and think that he should have closed our borders in January before the Chinese poisoned us. But if you held that opinion you probably wouldn't be supporting or supportive of the Democrats.
 
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lukeneyland said:
I don't think you can hold the current rate against Trump. Unless you are like me and think that he should have closed our borders in January before the Chinese poisoned us. But if you held that opinion you probably wouldn't be supporting or supportive of the Democrats.
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For the most part, I don't think the president has much to do with the unemployment rate, one way or the other. In the United States, we have had 34 million "baby boomers" retire since 2012. The unemployment rate pretty much had to go down, with that many people exiting the labor force. Trump doesn't deserve blame for the devastating losses the hospitality industry has seen since March... but since he is a jackass and took credit for the unemployment rate going down under his watch, when it had nothing to do with his policies... then I see nothing wrong with kicking him while he's down.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
For the most part, I don't think the president has much to do with the unemployment rate, one way or the other. In the United States, we have had 34 million "baby boomers" retire since 2012. The unemployment rate pretty much had to go down, with that many people exiting the labor force. Trump doesn't deserve blame for the devastating losses the hospitality industry has seen since March... but since he is a jackass and took credit for the unemployment rate going down under his watch, when it had nothing to do with his policies... then I see nothing wrong with kicking him while he's down.
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That first part I generally agree with. But almost every industry has been tanked because of the China flu not just hospitality. If you want to kick him for not taking decisive action in closing our borders I'll gladly kick him with you. All this America first talk and he fails to keep the dogeaters from poisoning us. The only thing I hate more than the Chinese is the university of Florida
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Don't let facts get in your way.
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Your facts don't diminish the point of the video, and BTW, human trafficking arrests don't mean pedo arrests. Human trafficking is prostitution any time a 3rd party is involved and they suspect coercion, so basically you might see HT charges any time a 3rd party is involved. For all I know, the difference between Trump and Obama is how we're counting the same crimes.

The author of the video shows how Trump initially took a hard line on pedos and then went soft on Maxwell. Your argument is just more evidence that Trump is tough when it's not Maxwell.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Your facts don't diminish the point of the video, and BTW, human trafficking arrests don't mean pedo arrests. Human trafficking is prostitution any time a 3rd party is involved and they suspect coercion, so basically you will see HT charges any time a 3rd party is involved.

The author of the video shows how Trump initially took a hard line on pedos and then went soft on Maxwell. Your argument is just more evidence that Trump is tough when it's not Maxwell.
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Epstein and Maxwell both arrested by feds under Trump's watch (after having been basically given a slap on the wrist under previous administrations). So far, actions have been speaking louder than words. By the way, who sounds like a conspiracy theorist now? His well wishes are a signal that he's going to pardon her? Lol. OK dude.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
For one thing, Donald Trump has been accused of rape by a woman named Elizabeth Jean Carroll, who is an American journalist and advice columnist. She wrote a column which appeared in "Elle" magazine from 1993 until 2019. In June of 2019, Carroll accused Donald Trump of assaulting her in 1996. Her claims are very specific to time and place. Carroll says that this assault took place in a Bergdorf Goodman store in NYC. Carroll also says that she told two friends about the incident just after it happened. Those two friends have confirmed through multiple media outlets that Carroll did relay this allegation to them, in 1996. Upon hearing this allegation, Trump immediately denied having ever met Elizabeth Jean Carroll. However, Carroll then immediately produced a photograph taken in 1987 which showed Donald and Ivana Trump alongside Elizabeth Jean Carroll and her then-husband.

The accusation you are describing concerns Trump's boasting on the Howard Stern Show that he walked into the dressing room of one his pageants for the purpose of seeing young naked girls. Multiple contestants have stated that they did see Trump in their dressing room while they were changing their clothes and were upset by his presence there. Trump laughed it off on Stern's show as if it was something innocent. Trump also claimed that he was allowed to be in there while they were undressing because he owned the pageant. Trump was in his 50's at the time. Does it get much more perverse than that?

Finally, many of Epstein's crimes did take place at his Manhattan residence where Donald Trump was a frequent guest. The videos I'm sure you have seen of Trump and Epstein gawking at young girls were taken at the Epstein Manhattan mansion.
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Those were grown women - not young girls.

That’s an important detail when you’re talking about a convicted sex offender and alleged prolific pedophile in Epstein.

You can think what you want, but there’s zero credible evidence to support the narrative that Trump is a pedophile.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Epstein and Maxwell both arrested by feds under Trump's watch (after having been basically given a slap on the wrist under previous administrations). So far, actions have been speaking louder than words. By the way, who sounds like a conspiracy theorist now? His well wishes are a signal that he's going to pardon her? Lol. OK dude.
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He's probably making too much out of Trump's comments, that's a fair point. You mistake my posting of the video as an indication that I believe everything in the video. It's mostly for the laughs.
 
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Volatility said:
Anyone else think she and Epstein were mossad assets used to get dirt on politicians?
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Ghislaine’s father had alleged ties to MI6, Mossad and the KGB.

Epstein and Ghislaine were definitely involved in a blackmail operation. Not sure for whom - that could be the most disturbing part.

What if it turns out to be C I A? Serious question.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
For what it's worth, this is how former Trump White House Press Secretary, Anthony Scaramucci, interpreted President Donald Trump's "well-wishes" to Ghislaine Maxwell this week:

"She (Ghislaine Maxwell) has the goods on him (Donald Trump). He is signaling 'please don't talk'." -

Anthony Scaramucci, Former White House Press Secretary under President Donald Trump, in a tweet posted on Wednesday July 22, 2020 at 7:04 AM.
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Scaramucci is dirty. JMO
 
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ajvol01 said:
You’re delusional
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Said the Qanon disciple. Found that pizza restaurant's basement yet?

So you're saying that he really wants to be reelected? He's doing a fantastically poor job is showing it

"The best day in my life in terms of business and life and everything was the day before I announced I'm running for president. Everything was good."

"I wish her well"

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MurphyVol said:
Said the Qanon disciple. Found that pizza restaurant's basement yet?

So you're saying that he really wants to be reelected? He's doing a fantastically poor job is showing it

"The best day in my life in terms of business and life and everything was the day before I announced I'm running for president. Everything was good."

"I wish her well"

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This is your evidence?
 
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ajvol01 said:
This is your evidence?
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Do you have evidence otherwise? Does he act like he's trying to win?
He absolutely has to pull in a large amount of independents and a small ammout of right learning Democrats.

Does he act like someone trailing by double digits?

If he's truly doing all he thinks he should to win then maybe he's as senile as Biden
 
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MurphyVol said:
Do you have evidence otherwise? Does he act like he's trying to win?
He absolutely has to pull in a large amount of independents and a small ammout of right learning Democrats.

Does he act like someone trailing by double digits?

If he's truly doing all he thinks he should to win then maybe he's as senile as Biden
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Who do you believe is actually voting for Biden?

I understand people not voting for Trump because they don’t like him.

I don’t understand anyone voting for Biden - he’s literally the definition of a puppet / figurehead candidate. The VP & cabinet would be running the country if Biden wins.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Who do you believe is actually voting for Biden?

I understand people not voting for Trump because they don’t like him.

I don’t understand anyone voting for Biden - he’s literally the definition of a puppet / figurehead candidate. The VP & cabinet would be running the country if Biden wins.
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Who is voting for Biden?
More people that will vote for Trump is my guess.

And my post/views have absolutely nothing to do with Biden. He's a clown and will hopefully be a one termer.

There was a lot of talk from Roger Ailes, Michael Coen and several unnamed sources that he never dreamed he'd be elected.

Do you truly believe he's doing everything he can to get reelected?
 
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MurphyVol said:
Who is voting for Biden?
More people that will vote for Trump is my guess.

And my post/views have absolutely nothing to do with Biden. He's a clown and will hopefully be a one termer.

There was a lot of talk from Roger Ailes, Michael Coen and several unnamed sources that he never dreamed he'd be elected.

Do you truly believe he's doing everything he can to get reelected?
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Biden supports defunding the police.

Trump supports law and order.

What do you think most Americans will vote for based on the past 2 months of unrest?









 
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ajvol01 said:
Biden supports defunding the police.

Trump supports law and order.

What do you think most Americans will vote for based on the past 2 months of unrest?









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Most Americans voted against Trump last time but not enough to impact the eletorical college.

Based on what I see in the battleground states I believe Biden will be elected.

Well wishes to pedophile ringleaders, constantly flip flopping on the virus and arguing with celebs on Twitter may be the new textbook way to getting elected but I strongly doubt it
 
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