Give Dooley a grade...

#126
#126
Vercingetorix said:
How? Kiffin wasn't selling Tennessee; he was selling "NFL coaching" and, to defensive players at least, the chance to play for Monte Kiffin. When he skipped town all that evaporated. For our recruits, that must have been like getting engaged to a gorgeous chick, and then having her show up three days before the wedding having cut all her hair off and gotten a massive breast reduction. I'm stunned as many of our recruits stuck with us as they did.

Think back to what everybody assumed was going to happen to this class the day after Kiffin left, and look where it ended up today. I don't see how Dooley can get anything other than an A for holding it together. My only possible gripe is that the DC/DL positions both hung open too long, possibly costing us Copeland and other DL players, but since I don't have any idea what was going on behind the scenes, I won't yell about it too hard. Nice job by Dooley and the staff to avoid disaster.
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We don't know specifically what Kiffin was selling (unless you were present for all the meetings?). Clearly, alot of the players Dooley got, were committed or at least interested in UT when Kiffin was here. The fact that the stayed with UT doesn't necessarily mean that they suddenly changed their priorities and Dooley started over from scratch, re-recruiting them.
 
#127
#127
oregonvol said:
We don't know specifically what Kiffin was selling (unless you were present for all the meetings?). Clearly, alot of the players Dooley got, were committed or at least interested in UT when Kiffin was here. The fact that the stayed with UT doesn't necessarily mean that they suddenly changed their priorities and Dooley started over from scratch, re-recruiting them.
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Kiffin himself said what he was selling from the very beginning. "We're going to hire NFL coaches and recruit players by offering them a chance to receive NFL-level coaching." He was completely upfront about it. And it was reflected in the comments from recruits; the most common thing you heard from our defensive commitments was that they really looked forward to getting to play for Monte Kiffin. Dooley has been selling a far different product to these kids than what Kiffin had been.
 
#128
#128
Vercingetorix said:
Kiffin himself said what he was selling from the very beginning. "We're going to hire NFL coaches and recruit players by offering them a chance to receive NFL-level coaching." He was completely upfront about it. And it was reflected in the comments from recruits; the most common thing you heard from our defensive commitments was that they really looked forward to getting to play for Monte Kiffin. Dooley has been selling a far different product to these kids than what Kiffin had been.
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so you really believe that all the commitments we held over were because Dooley convinced each one of them that NFL coaching wasn't important and instead sold them on the program and tradition, which, to your mind, they knew next to nothing about previously? seriously?
 
#129
#129
From 1 -10, I'd give him an 11!
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#130
#130
Given the circumstances - A

Graded on covering needs - B
- QB - A
- OL - B
- RB - B
- WR - A+
- TE - B
- DE - A
- DT - D
- LB - C
- DB - B
- K - A
 
#131
#131
oregonvol said:
so you really believe that all the commitments we held over were because Dooley convinced each one of them that NFL coaching wasn't important and instead sold them on the program and tradition, which, to your mind, they knew next to nothing about previously? seriously?
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It's been awhile since somebody put words in my mouth so egregiously. You make up something that I never said and then act like I'm an idiot for believing it.

Kiffin sold recruits on his staff's energy and NFL/USC experience first, and the Tennessee program second. He said as much from the start. When Dooley came in, every bit of the first part of that was gone. Monte Kiffin was gone. All of the NFL coaches were gone, other than Chaney. The ridiculous shirtless "intensity" Kiffin kept talking about and which initially turned so many recruits' heads was gone. Instead of the head coach being the infamous Sportscenter wunderkind, he was an unknown from the WAC. If you don't get that that's a completely different sales job from what Kiffin was spinning then I don't know what more there is to say about it.
 
#137
#137
oregonvol said:
We don't know specifically what Kiffin was selling ...
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Seriously?

Then, why does he find it necessary to surround himself with the Monte 'n Ed Traveling Road Show? Think any big-time schools would hire him without it? Think any ESPNU 150s would return his call unless he could pass the cell over to Daddy?

Dude, when you see the black fur and the white stripes, it's not necessary to do a cannonball into the burrow to prove you're looking at a skunk.
 
#138
#138
Nothing short of a A+

I mean MH went down there and signed him and then grabbed the family, flew back for a press conference all in less than 6 hours. Hit the ground running three weeks before NSD, recruits confused, the coaching situation unsure, tie up loose ends at LATech, move the family, find a house, wife to deal with leaving friends, find a job and school for kids....on and on an end up signing a Top Ten Class....simply amazing!!!
 
#143
#143
TN_Vol_Fo_Life said:
Wow. With no explanation, I am not buying what you are selling. That is ludicrous.

I say B+ because we didn't get the DTs that we needed. but how can you complain too much with what he pulled in such little time!
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He was joking, and said so later in the thread. Not his fault you didn't take 5 more seconds to read it.
 
#144
#144
A- I would have liked to have seen one more DT, but great class overall, I mean 9th in the country is nothing to complain about. Only more good things to come from CDD. GO VOLS!
 
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