Glad to see Georgia is playing Southern University

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BuckeyeNate said:
So you think scheduling BG, Western Carolina, Oklahoma and North Texas is better than scheduling
NMSU, ECU, FAU, and Florida State?

I don't get that at all. Looks basically identical. I wouldn't throw stones in glass houses.

Since Florida State won the title and made playoffs I would say that's a superior schedule.
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I'd say that's about equal, with a slight edge to UF because FSU > OU and BG and ECU are both decent mid-major teams.

If you look at the last two decades as a whole (and even the future), then I would give the edge to UT. My main issue with UF's OOC schedule is that it's boring. You can spice it up while scheduling games that are 95% sure wins.
 
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BuckeyeNate said:
That scheduling Florida State every year is good enough. If you think Tennessee schedules tougher non con each year you are blind.
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Assuming they're at typical UF level rather than Muschamp levels, what exactly would UF lose by playing Fresno State or Cincinnati instead of New Mexico State?
 
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UTCVol said:
Assuming they're at typical UF level rather than Muschamp levels, what exactly would UF lose by playing Fresno State or Cincinnati instead of New Mexico State?
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What does Tennessee lose by playing Memphis or Fresno State instead of Western Carolina? We can do this all day. Again Florida State has been a top 5 program for 2.5 decades. Florida plays them every year.

Enjoy playing Cal and Nebraska though.
 
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BuckeyeNate said:
What do does Tennessee lose by playing Memphis or Fresno State instead of Western Carolina? We can do this all day. Again Florida State has been a top 5 program for 2.5 decades. Florida plays them every year.

Enjoy playing Cal and Nebraska though.
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I have no idea why we scheduled Western Carolina. I would also love for Memphis to become a yearly game, but unfortunately the ingrates at Tiger High won't let that happen.

I actually think UT is beginning to shift to the Alabama model of "1 neutral site game, 3 cupcakes", and I am not in favor of it. But the fact is UT has shown a willingness to go anywhere in the last 20 years.
 
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UTCVol said:
I have no idea why we scheduled Western Carolina. I would also love for Memphis to become a yearly game, but unfortunately the ingrates at Tiger High won't let that happen.

I actually think UT is beginning to shift to the Alabama model of "1 neutral site game, 3 cupcakes", and I am not in favor of it. But the fact is UT has shown a willingness to go anywhere in the last 20 years.
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Is a Buckeye fan arguing SOS?
 
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UTCVol said:
I have no idea why we scheduled Western Carolina. I would also love for Memphis to become a yearly game, but unfortunately the ingrates at Tiger High won't let that happen.

I actually think UT is beginning to shift to the Alabama model of "1 neutral site game, 3 cupcakes", and I am not in favor of it. But the fact is UT has shown a willingness to go anywhere in the last 20 years.
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I don't have any issue with the way Tennessee schedules. I just think it's funny if you are a Tennesssee fan and you want to crack on the Gators schedule when they play an as tough or tougher non conference.
 
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UTCVol said:
I'd say that's about equal, with a slight edge to UF because FSU > OU and BG and ECU are both decent mid-major teams.

If you look at the last two decades as a whole (and even the future), then I would give the edge to UT. My main issue with UF's OOC schedule is that it's boring. You can spice it up while scheduling games that are 95% sure wins.
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If we are going by the last 2 decades, then Florida State has played in 12 BCS bowls and won 2 national titles.

In the previous 8 seasons before that, they played in a BCS level bowl every season and won a national title.

I am willing to bet that Tennessee's non-conference opponents over the last 28 seasons did not play in a total of 20 BCS bowls and win 3 national titles.

I am willing to bet that Tennessee's non-conference opponents didn't accomplish half of that.

The "edge" is not with UT
 
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99gator said:
If we are going by the last 2 decades, then Florida State has played in 12 BCS bowls and won 2 national titles.

In the previous 8 seasons before that, they played in a BCS level bowl every season and won a national title.

I am willing to bet that Tennessee's non-conference opponents over the last 28 seasons did not play in a total of 20 BCS bowls and win 3 national titles.

I am willing to bet that Tennessee's non-conference opponents didn't accomplish half of that.
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Quit using facts, man. It's frowned upon.
 
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jlindsa4 said:
Speaking of facts, must be nice having a guaranteed playoff birth every year given that the buckeye sos is non existant.
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Well it's the 2nd year of the playoffs. The schedule isn't great this year. I will never argue it is.

That being said the B1G is on the rise. Ohio State and Michigan State are elite programs. Thankfully for Vols fans James Franklin quit taking the Vols lunch money and moved to Penn State. They are going to be better going forward. I am assuming eventually Michigan will be improved in be next couple of years.
So it's not going to be the free ride you want to sell it as.
 
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BuckeyeNate said:
Well it's the 2nd year of the playoffs. The schedule isn't great this year. I will never argue it is.

That being said the B1G is on the rise. Ohio State and Michigan State are elite programs. Thankfully for Vols fans James Franklin quit taking the Vols lunch money and moved to Penn State. They are going to be better going forward. I am assuming eventually Michigan will be improved in be next couple of years.
So it's not going to be the free ride you want to sell it as.
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You'd better hope the Big 10 stays down. Otherwise, Urban might get the vapors and quit again so he can get the Notre Dame job.
 
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UTCVol said:
Mississippi State is the worst. Arky, Vandy, UK, and UF as well.
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Oh Mississippi State is almost beyond awful in that regard (take a look at who they were playing OOC last season...it's like Baylor's scheduling). Ole Miss wasn't been terribly great either in that regard multiple years, either.
 
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BuckeyeNate said:
Well it's the 2nd year of the playoffs. The schedule isn't great this year. I will never argue it is.

That being said the B1G is on the rise. Ohio State and Michigan State are elite programs. Thankfully for Vols fans James Franklin quit taking the Vols lunch money and moved to Penn State. They are going to be better going forward. I am assuming eventually Michigan will be improved in be next couple of years.
So it's not going to be the free ride you want to sell it as.
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Yep Penn state looked great
 
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UTCVol said:
Florida State has played Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, and Alabama in recent years. They will also play Ole Miss, Boise State, and Bama and ND (again) in the next few seasons. Seems like it would pretty easy them to just say screw it and run the table on the relatively weak ACC to get to the playoffs by dropping those teams for New Mexico State and Miami of Ohio.

Again, I don't want UF to schedule a big name opponent every year. Just someone with a pulse. Quite a few UF fans feel the same way from what I've seen.
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FSU was more obligated by the conference to play Notre Dame, though; they didn't schedule that (it came from Notre Dame's having to play an average of 5 ACC teams every year in football in order for it to become a partial member in the conference in all sports but football)...that might as well be called a conference game as far as making a schedule goes.

ACC, Notre Dame Announce Football Playing Dates Through 2025 | - ACC News


Wasn't the Alabama-FSU game also a 1-game thing organized by a kickoff committee or something out of Jacksonville was offering both teams money to play at a neutral site, also? Like a River City Showdown, or something like that?
 
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TrueOrange said:
FSU was more obligated by the conference to play Notre Dame, though; they didn't schedule that (it came from Notre Dame's having to play an average of 5 ACC teams every year in football in order for it to become a partial member in the conference in all sports but football)...that might as well be called a conference game as far as making a schedule goes.

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Wasn't the Alabama-FSU game also a 1-game thing organized by a kickoff committee or something out of Jacksonville was offering both teams money to play at a neutral site, also? Like a River City Showdown, or something like that?
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Yeah, you're right - I always forget about the ND situation. Although I would say most major OOC rivalries are an obligation. It doesn't stop Georgia or Michigan from playing interesting OOC games.

Like I said, UF has a good reason to schedule like this. Doesn't mean it isn't boring.
 
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BuckeyeNate said:
Who does Tennesssee "schedule with a pulse"? Florida State since 1990 is a top 5 program. This convo is hilarious.
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If we're going as far back as 1990 (can go back further though, if we want to):

1990 - #5 Colorado (they went on to finish #1 11-1-1 in the AP Poll, splitting the title with Georgia Tech that year), at #1 Notre Dame (finished #6 10-2),

1991 - #21 UCLA (they finished the year #18/#19 9-3), #5 Notre Dame (they finished the year #12/#13 10-3)

1992 - No good OOC opponents schedule; this was also the first year of divisional play, so SEC teams went from having 4 OOC games to only being able to schedule 3 (making it also the year that TN had to drop playing Auburn and Ole Miss every season, and started playing Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina yearly).

1993 - #13 Louisville (finished #23/#24 9-3)

1994 - at #14 UCLA (finished 5-6), #17 Washington State (finished #19/#21 8-4)

1995 - Oklahoma State (finished 4-8), East Carolina (finished #23/NR 9-3)

1996 - UCLA (finished 5-6)

1997 - Texas Tech (finished 6-5), at UCLA (finished #5 10-2), #25 Southern Miss (finished #19 9-3)

1998 - at Syracuse (finished #24/#25 8-4)

1999 - Notre Dame (finished 5-7)

2000 - #22 Southern Miss (finished NR 8-4)

2001 - Syracuse (finished #14 10-3), at Notre Dame (finished 5-6)

2002 - #2/#3 Miami (finished #2 12-1), Rutgers (finished 1-11)

2003 - at #6/#4 Miami (finished #5 11-2), Fresno State (finished 9-5), Marshall (finished 8-4)

2004 - Notre Dame (finished 6-6)

2005 - at #8 Notre Dame (finished #9/#11 9-3), Memphis (7-5)

2006 - #9/#12 Cal (finished #14 10-3)

2007 - at #12 Cal (finished 7-6), Southern Miss (finished 7-6)

2008 - at UCLA (finished 4-8)

2009 - UCLA (finished 7-6), Ohio (finished 9-5)

2010 - #7/#8 Oregon (finished #3 12-1)

2011 - Cincinnati (finished #24/#25 10-3)

2012 - NC State (finished 7-6)

2013 - at #2 Oregon (finished #9 11-2), WKU (finished 8-4)

2014 - at #3/#4 Oklahoma (finished NR 8-5), Utah State (finished 10-4)

2015 - #19 Oklahoma


Future scheduled opponents for UT:

2016 - Virginia Tech

2017 - Georgia Tech

2018 - West Virginia

2021 - Pittsburgh

2022 - at Pittsburgh

2026 - at Nebraska

2027 - Nebraska
 
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BuckeyeNate said:
What does Tennessee lose by playing Memphis or Fresno State instead of Western Carolina? We can do this all day. Again Florida State has been a top 5 program for 2.5 decades. Florida plays them every year.

Enjoy playing Cal and Nebraska though.
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Almost everyone plays an FCS team each year at this point, though. I get that you guys haven't this year and last season - and I'm not a fan of every school making sure they get one of those each year - but until next season, there's not even a whole conference worth of teams in a that has gone without scheduling an FCS team since the NCAA started allowing it to count for bowl eligibility every year back in 2006.
 
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UTCVol said:
I'd say that's about equal, with a slight edge to UF because FSU > OU and BG and ECU are both decent mid-major teams.

If you look at the last two decades as a whole (and even the future), then I would give the edge to UT. My main issue with UF's OOC schedule is that it's boring. You can spice it up while scheduling games that are 95% sure wins.
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UCLA was mediocre to terrible when we played them, Cal started off top 10 twice and finished with .500 seasons, OU lost 5 games last year, ND was .500 in 04 and top 10 in 05. Oregon is the only marquee OOC opponent we've had in 10 years who can actually be considered elite. FSU's up and down run of the last decade makes them an as formidable opponent as anyone we've played.
 
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TrueOrange said:
If we're going as far back as 1990 (can go back further though, if we want to):

1990 - #5 Colorado (they went on to finish #1 11-1-1 in the AP Poll, splitting the title with Georgia Tech that year), at #1 Notre Dame (finished #6 10-2),

1991 - #21 UCLA (they finished the year #18/#19 9-3), #5 Notre Dame (they finished the year #12/#13 10-3)

1992 - No good OOC opponents schedule; this was also the first year of divisional play, so SEC teams went from having 4 OOC games to only being able to schedule 3 (making it also the year that TN had to drop playing Auburn and Ole Miss every season, and started playing Georgia, Florida, and South Carolina yearly).

1993 - #13 Louisville (finished #23/#24 9-3)

1994 - at #14 UCLA (finished 5-6), #17 Washington State (finished #19/#21 8-4)

1995 - Oklahoma State (finished 4-8), East Carolina (finished #23/NR 9-3)

1996 - UCLA (finished 5-6)

1997 - Texas Tech (finished 6-5), at UCLA (finished #5 10-2), #25 Southern Miss (finished #19 9-3)

1998 - at Syracuse (finished #24/#25 8-4)

1999 - Notre Dame (finished 5-7)

2000 - #22 Southern Miss (finished NR 8-4)

2001 - Syracuse (finished #14 10-3), at Notre Dame (finished 5-6)

2002 - #2/#3 Miami (finished #2 12-1), Rutgers (finished 1-11)

2003 - at #6/#4 Miami (finished #5 11-2), Fresno State (finished 9-5), Marshall (finished 8-4)

2004 - Notre Dame (finished 6-6)

2005 - at #8 Notre Dame (finished #9/#11 9-3), Memphis (7-5)

2006 - #9/#12 Cal (finished #14 10-3)

2007 - at #12 Cal (finished 7-6), Southern Miss (finished 7-6)

2008 - at UCLA (finished 4-8)

2009 - UCLA (finished 7-6), Ohio (finished 9-5)

2010 - #7/#8 Oregon (finished #3 12-1)

2011 - Cincinnati (finished #24/#25 10-3)

2012 - NC State (finished 7-6)

2013 - at #2 Oregon (finished #9 11-2), WKU (finished 8-4)

2014 - at #3/#4 Oklahoma (finished NR 8-5), Utah State (finished 10-4)

2015 - #19 Oklahoma


Future scheduled opponents for UT:

2016 - Virginia Tech

2017 - Georgia Tech

2018 - West Virginia

2021 - Pittsburgh

2022 - at Pittsburgh

2026 - at Nebraska

2027 - Nebraska
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Life pretty boring these days?
 
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TrueOrange said:
Almost everyone plays an FCS team each year at this point, though. I get that you guys haven't this year and last season - and I'm not a fan of every school making sure they get one of those each year - but until next season, there's not even a whole conference worth of teams in a that has gone without scheduling an FCS team since the NCAA started allowing it to count for bowl eligibility every year back in 2006.
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As I stated previously I have no issue with Tennessee's non conference scheduling. My only point was pointing out the Vols fans in this thread that were saying Florida doesnt do enough.

Florida playing Florida State is better than any team Tennessee schedules on a year to year basis.
 
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