Glad to see Jones is not blind

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If either freshman gets a chance this week, I believe it will be Riley Ferguson. Last week, I read that CBJ had him throwing to a receiver apart from practice which is a little unusual. He was rated as a "sleeper" and one to watch out for by the ESPN so called "experts".
 
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dooley2 said:
First off, just because he's black doesn't mean he can run a read option. For the 1,000,000th time, Dobbs is a pro-style quarterback, not a duel threat.

Secondly..... This is being discussed in almost every thread. Dobbs hasn't even taken snaps this week. The battle is between Peterman and Worley.

Thirdly, Dobbs has never played a down of college football. He may be the second coming, but we can't say for sure until we see him get some PT.
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I do think Dobbs will be the future. Not because of his race, but because I've seen his tape. Dobbs can throw well from the pocket (I think better than Ferguson) and he can also run very well. He's not Vick, but is more of an Alex Smith style who can be very effective in the read option or scrambling away for yards.
 
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so tired of all the idiots that say it would be insane to start a true freshman against UF...guess what..it's insane to start Worely against anyone unless we are trying to lose...get the freshman in now and let him take his lumps..one potentially bad game at UF isn't going to kill the kid....and IMO it was a huge mistake for Jones not to let Fergy or Dobbs play in the first 2 cupcake games..i am sure he realizes that now after seeing Worey against Oregon and Peterman against anybody..i think Worely could actually be decent but he plays scared...we don't want that and its not something that is easily fixed....bring in Fergy who has the winner's mentality from everything i have heard..also heard he is super aggressive...
 
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maxxx said:
After seeing the last game it was very clear that Worley is not capable of running a read option offense. I returned to VN today to see that Jones is open to playing the BEST QB this week. Personally, I feel that the returning guys are not built for this offense at all. It requires a good athlete, and the only one I see is Dobbs at the moment. Too me it makes perfect sense to just get him on the field now and get him an early start on being the QB fir the next few years. Saving him from the schedule is useless because we will not beat anyone with Worley unless he is in a drop back offense.

Just my .02
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Worley more than likely starts tomorrow at Fla. Now what?
 
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Why do people who never see a practice & have no idea of the 1st thing that goes on with the team always think they have the answers??

Baffling!
 
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dooley2 said:
First off, just because he's black doesn't mean he can run a read option. For the 1,000,000th time, Dobbs is a pro-style quarterback, not a duel threat.

Secondly..... This is being discussed in almost every thread. Dobbs hasn't even taken snaps this week. The battle is between Peterman and Worley.

Thirdly, Dobbs has never played a down of college football. He may be the second coming, but we can't say for sure until we see him get some PT.
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Where in his post does he say that being black makes him run a read option?
 
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dooley2 said:
First off, just because he's black doesn't mean he can run a read option. For the 1,000,000th time, Dobbs is a pro-style quarterback, not a duel threat.

Secondly..... This is being discussed in almost every thread. Dobbs hasn't even taken snaps this week. The battle is between Peterman and Worley.

Thirdly, Dobbs has never played a down of college football. He may be the second coming, but we can't say for sure until we see him get some PT.
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This poster has an avatar featuring a moron. We have been warned. Mr. Lloyd Christmas here somehow has to has managed to warp his thinking to believe it's all about Dobbs being black. Yet nobody, to the thread at that point, even mentioned race. It all come out of his marvelously imaginative melon.
Secondly, he states quite emphatically that Dobbs hasn't taken any snaps this week. How does he know this? They've the most closed practices to date, and nobody knows what has been going on. But Lloyd here does apparently. This is more information coming out of the cloud of his mighty melon. He can know things that others can't.
He did get it right about Dobbs not haven't taken any college game time snaps yet. Wow!
 
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Coach Jones isn't blind but the OP is apparently blind to the 4-5 other existing threads discussing the QB position......
 
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dooley2 said:
First off, just because he's black doesn't mean he can run a read option. For the 1,000,000th time, Dobbs is a pro-style quarterback, not a duel threat.

Secondly..... This is being discussed in almost every thread. Dobbs hasn't even taken snaps this week. The battle is between Peterman and Worley.

Thirdly, Dobbs has never played a down of college football. He may be the second coming, but we can't say for sure until we see him get some PT.
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To me the issue is mobility around and out of the pocket. Dobbs is apparently seen as having more compared to Worley. I definitely wouldn't burn Dobbs' redshirt, no how, no way. Peterman...you're up.
GO VOLS!
 
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I wonder how many people will have bona fide and verifiable conniptions when Worley starts and stays in Saturday first half.

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I believe Worley, VolNation, the Team and the Coaching Staff will know after Saturday for sure whether Worley is the answer the rest of the way.
 
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majic73 said:
did it not occur to you that the coaches felt like they had the BEST qb in the game? I am hard pressed to think that any coaches would willingly put the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the game.

I hope that whoever starts has a break-out that will be a thing of legends ...but if we had that guy , I think that we would already know.

two words : Recruiting / patience
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three words: brick by brick
 
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volboy81 said:
Why do people who never see a practice & have no idea of the 1st thing that goes on with the team always think they have the answers??

Baffling!
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I know, what are these people thinking commenting on a message board when they can't quit their day jobs to be at every practice and be directly involved in decision making. Really...
 
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dooley2 said:
First off, just because he's black doesn't mean he can run a read option. For the 1,000,000th time, Dobbs is a pro-style quarterback, not a duel threat.

Secondly..... This is being discussed in almost every thread. Dobbs hasn't even taken snaps this week. The battle is between Peterman and Worley.

Thirdly, Dobbs has never played a down of college football. He may be the second coming, but we can't say for sure until we see him get some PT.
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First off, what a ridiculous statement. Him being black has nothing to do with the kid being able to run the offense or not. No one has mentioned color. For the 1,000,000th time it's been stated the coach would play who performed the best in practice.

Secondly...Every recruiting site has the kid listed as a duel threat.

Thirdly...everyone knows he's never taken a down of college football.
 
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Everyone on this board thinks they are football geniuses and most of you aren't, including myself. At this time last year the majority of the posters on VN were pro-Dooley still, again, including myself. One thing I know, and it's been something I've known since the Spring, is that Worley is not a college quarterback. Honestly, how can anyone be saying he needs to start against FLORIDA after getting blown out by Oregon. Come on guys, we owe it to these seniors to at least try to make it to a bowl game this year. Worley. Is. Not. The. Answer. Make a change now.
 
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dooley2 said:
First off, just because he's black doesn't mean he can run a read option. For the 1,000,000th time, Dobbs is a pro-style quarterback, not a duel threat.

Secondly..... This is being discussed in almost every thread. Dobbs hasn't even taken snaps this week. The battle is between Peterman and Worley.

Thirdly, Dobbs has never played a down of college football. He may be the second coming, but we can't say for sure until we see him get some PT.
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To your third point, both Worley and Peterman have both taken snaps and most would agree, they suck. I do not believe the ones calling for Dobbs are saying that he would come in and win every game right off. Most realize that Worley and Peterman are not the ones for the job, as their performances has shown. If Dobbs or Ferguson are our future, then our future should begin now. They will have to get their first college experience at some point, might as well be trial by fire, It will only make them better and more prepared for next season.
 
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From an outsider's perspective: (LSU fan)

You guys need a QB who thinks he's the baddest motherfu**** on the field at all times. You need a guy with confidence like that to help you guys win and bring a winning attitude. That guy from what I've read is Riley Ferguson. Sure, he'll make a ton of mistakes, but he'll be the only one who would take chances too.

Don't get me wrong...the Vols certainly are lacking the kind of talent they need to compete at a high level this year. HOWEVER, the talent discrepancy is not as bad as you think. This is probably the worst stretch in Vols history and you guys are still pulling in 4 stars. Your talent is certainly as good or better than Vandy's and MSU and probably even Auburn's talent level. Playing with a winning attitude can help this team overachieve and maybe go 7-5 this year. For that to happen, you guys need to beat AP, WKU, Vandy, UK,and South Alabama. Then you need to win 2 of UF, USCe, mizzou, Auburn, Bama, and UGA. Obviously, the best 2 chances would be Auburn and Mizzou. But, you probably split those and pray for an upset of UF or USCe.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
so tired of all the idiots that say it would be insane to start a true freshman against UF...guess what..it's insane to start Worely against anyone unless we are trying to lose...get the freshman in now and let him take his lumps..one potentially bad game at UF isn't going to kill the kid....and IMO it was a huge mistake for Jones not to let Fergy or Dobbs play in the first 2 cupcake games..i am sure he realizes that now after seeing Worey against Oregon and Peterman against anybody..i think Worely could actually be decent but he plays scared...we don't want that and its not something that is easily fixed....bring in Fergy who has the winner's mentality from everything i have heard..also heard he is super aggressive...
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This. Whether it be this year or next year, Ferguson or Dobbs will have to play their first game at some point. Might as well do it now while we have a good pass blocking line instead of next year when we might not.

I will say this though, if one of them does start, then they need to stick with him for better or worse, if that means missing out on a bowl, so be it.
 
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volsteel said:
First off, what a ridiculous statement. Him being black has nothing to do with the kid being able to run the offense or not. No one has mentioned color. For the 1,000,000th time it's been stated the coach would play who performed the best in practice.

Secondly...Every recruiting site has the kid listed as a duel threat.

Thirdly...everyone knows he's never taken a down of college football.
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Your spot in with your comments. Peyton had never taken a snap either, let's see how did his coming in workout? Only the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. This never taken a snap BS is getting really old.
 
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maxxx said:
After seeing the last game it was very clear that Worley is not capable of running a read option offense. I returned to VN today to see that Jones is open to playing the BEST QB this week. Personally, I feel that the returning guys are not built for this offense at all. It requires a good athlete, and the only one I see is Dobbs at the moment. Too me it makes perfect sense to just get him on the field now and get him an early start on being the QB fir the next few years. Saving him from the schedule is useless because we will not beat anyone with Worley unless he is in a drop back offense.

Just my .02
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When things are not going as one likes, the uninformed and ignorant fan will always want the second team QB. That is the hype by default. Unless Butch sees something exceptional in the freshmen, he goes with Worley. Dobbs is possibly going to be really good but he is not a dual threat QB. He and Ferguson are not going out there until Butch thinks they are ready to do better than Worley or Peterman. If he decides to go with the freshmen I will back them 100%.

Peyton himself couldn't win if his receivers are running the wrong routes and dropping passes. Neither can the freshmen QBs. Butch probably wants the QB who can best run the offense and distribute the ball to the play makers and not running the ball himself. Right now that is Worley. Maybe the others will step up later in the season.
 
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dooley2 said:
First off, just because he's black doesn't mean he can run a read option. For the 1,000,000th time, Dobbs is a pro-style quarterback, not a duel threat.

Secondly..... This is being discussed in almost every thread. Dobbs hasn't even taken snaps this week. The battle is between Peterman and Worley.

Thirdly, Dobbs has never played a down of college football. He may be the second coming, but we can't say for sure until we see him get some PT.
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It Will probably be either Worley or Peterman IMO but there have been reports that all the QB's have taken reps with 1's and 2's this week.
 
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