Goins' lack of assists

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With Pearl announcing that he plans to look at other options at point, I decided to check Goins' assist stats. It's worse than I imagined.

Alabama 31 minutes - 1 assist
Kentucky 32 minutes - 1 assist
Florida 31 minutes - 0 assists

Total 94 minutes - 2 assists
 
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I honestly think that the low assist totals are a function of us virtually having no half-court offense. Goins could function decently in a motion offense, but Chris Paul isn't going to load up on assists with the garbage we're currently doing in the half-court. Not saying Goins is anywhere in the same stratosphere as Paul, he's marginal at best, but I think the low numbers are much more a function of the system rather than Melvin Goins the player.

Basically, the only time we're going to get some assists is in transition, not in the half-court.
 
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Golden

Alabama 15 minutes - 3 assists
Kentucky 9 minutes - 0 assists
Florida 9 minutes - 1 assist
 
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LawVol13 said:
I honestly think that the low assist totals are a function of us virtually having no half-court offense. Goins could function decently in a motion offense, but Chris Paul isn't going to load up on assists with the garbage we're currently doing in the half-court. Not saying Goins is anywhere in the same stratosphere as Paul, he's marginal at best, but I think the low numbers are much more a function of the system rather than Melvin Goins the player.

Basically, the only time we're going to get some assists is in transition, not in the half-court.
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I agree, when half the time we just swing passes around the arc and wait for the shot clock to hit 5 to panic and find some halfway decent shot its gonna be tough to find assists.
 
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Freak said:
With Pearl announcing that he plans to look at other options at point, I decided to check Goins' assist stats. It's worse than I imagined.

Alabama 31 minutes - 1 assist
Kentucky 32 minutes - 1 assist
Florida 31 minutes - 0 assists

Total 94 minutes - 2 assists
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Probably why Pearl is going to have Tobias running the offense. We have got to get mcbee going from 3. It's amazing to see how pure his shot is in practice but not translate
on floor. One thing about mcbee even though he has clanked a lot, teams have not shown a plan to slack off of him. If they do
I think he can get some confidence. Tobias is going to be the one facilitating the offense which means a big must cone out to the perimeter and Brian will have a chance to work 1 on 1. I'm interested to see if this dynamic works.
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tvols75 said:
One thing about mcbee even though he has clanked a lot, teams have not shown a plan to slack off of him. If they do
I think he can get some confidence.
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Good point. That explains why about his last 20 threes have been totally uncontested.
 
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Magic was 6'9 and ran point. Who's to say Tobias can't do the same?

PG-Harris
SG-Tatum
SF-Hopson
PF-Williams
C-Fields

Hows that for size?
 
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It is extremely hard to have an assist passing the ball around the perimeter. I think to assist someone you have to put them in a position to draw their opponent to you so that opens up passing lanes and easy shot for them. We have not been doing that!
 
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I think many posters in this thread have said it well.
Its extremely hard to have any assists when the other 4 guys are just standing around. There is no motion in this offense. Its frustrating to watch McBee actually be the only one running around, because as much as he may run, he can't hit a consistent three ball. We have a bunch of 1-on-1 ballers.

Pearl needs to get these guys to move. I think i'd rather see the scrubs on the court if they are actually moving and willing to hustle.
 
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Freak said:
With Pearl announcing that he plans to look at other options at point, I decided to check Goins' assist stats. It's worse than I imagined.

Alabama 31 minutes - 1 assist
Kentucky 32 minutes - 1 assist
Florida 31 minutes - 0 assists

Total 94 minutes - 2 assists
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That's horrible. Almost unbelievable
 
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I agree that our offense isn't assist friendly, but there are other teams that run the flex that have a lot more assists than us. Maryland for example has almost 100 more assists this year than UT does. Obviously it is not all on the system.
 
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Yeah, the system didn't seem to prevent every other PG having a significantly higher number of assists. Melvin just doesn't have the mentality of a quality PG. He either doesn't see or doesn't want to make the passes a PG must in order to be successful. It's why I hate scoring PGs and wasn't saddened Selby didn't sign here. Melvin hunts too mush for his own shot and drives too deep into the paint trying to make things happen for himself.
 
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It's not the damn system. A good pg will penetrate at any opportunity, call for a pick and roll or be vocal on the floor to get the ball in a scorers hands in scoring position, regardless of the system. I've never heard Goins bark out orders to other players either and he has to. The pg is the coach on the floor and the offense is in his hands. It's called playing basketball. BP has to call more sets because Goins will dribble the ball into the ground until he does. Fla won because their pg took over the last 5 minutes and started balling. Our pg didn't get within 20 feet of the rim. Are you saying BP coaches that with the flex? Wrong.
 
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From my knowledge of the rules, it is impossible to get an assist when the ball only goes from his hand to the floor, hand to floor, hand to floor, and on and on and on.
 
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therickbol said:
From my knowledge of the rules, it is impossible to get an assist when the ball only goes from his hand to the floor, hand to floor, hand to floor, and on and on and on.
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Maybe someone could lay on the floor. That way goins dribbles on top of them, they catch and shoot from their back.

If it goes in...BOOM...Assist.
 
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LawVol13 said:
I honestly think that the low assist totals are a function of us virtually having no half-court offense. Goins could function decently in a motion offense, but Chris Paul isn't going to load up on assists with the garbage we're currently doing in the half-court. Not saying Goins is anywhere in the same stratosphere as Paul, he's marginal at best, but I think the low numbers are much more a function of the system rather than Melvin Goins the player.

Basically, the only time we're going to get some assists is in transition, not in the half-court.
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Exactly. Pearl's half-court offense (or lack thereof) has always been painful to watch.
 
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Freak said:
With Pearl announcing that he plans to look at other options at point, I decided to check Goins' assist stats. It's worse than I imagined.

Alabama 31 minutes - 1 assist
Kentucky 32 minutes - 1 assist
Florida 31 minutes - 0 assists

Total 94 minutes - 2 assists
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credited with zero assists at uga as well.
 
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