Gordon, Johnson fail qualifying inspection

#27
#27
Ok so that failed the inspection b/c of illegal fenders, right?

So they cant qualify or practice. And they better get 100 points taken off, fined $100,000 a piece and get crew chief suspened for 6 races.


But, we all know that Mike (gutless) Helton will let the wonderboys off. Just wait and see.
 
#29
#29
They should have immediately ejected the crew chiefs from the track like they've done other times when a team was caught cheating.
 
#30
#30
If they do suspend the crew chiefs 6 races, what will all you conspiracy theorists do??? Oh my, they penalized a couple Hendrick cars, that goes against all you guys believe in. I guess you'll all have to come up with some other stupid, dumb-founded reasons why Hendrick cars win all the time.
 
#31
#31
TennesseeFan07 said:
They should have immediately ejected the crew chiefs from the track like they've done other times when a team was caught cheating.
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They let Eury Jr. stay in Darlington for the rest of the weekend for his CoT infraction... of course they were caught after qualifying/later in the weekend, if my memory is correct.
 
#32
#32
tidwell said:
They let Eury Jr. stay in Darlington for the rest of the weekend for his CoT infraction... of course they were caught after qualifying/later in the weekend, if my memory is correct.
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Yep, Jr was caught after qualifying.

They shouldnt kick the chiefs out until appeals are heard and everything is fair. But there is no reason why the suspensions should be anything less the JR's.

But hell, Kurt the Idiot almost kills a guy, and he got less than JR. I guess we will have to wait and see.
 
#35
#35
They sat Kevin Harvick a few years back after reckless driving during a truck race at Martinsville... that was the last time i can remember.
 
#36
#36
Harvick in 2002, I believe.

That wasn't for a rules infraction or anything though... don't remember them ever making someone sit out a race for that.
 
#37
#37
wait, what? they held him out of the Cup race for rough driving in the Truck race?
 
#41
#41
doozer said:
wait, what? they held him out of the Cup race for rough driving in the Truck race?
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I don't think it was just for the incident in the truck race. It was everything he'd been involved in recently... had the run-in with Biffle at Bristol earlier in the year during a Busch race, wrecked the Gibbs boy in the truck race at Martinsville. After that truck race, they called him to the NASCAR hauler and he drove his truck right to the front door of the hauler and parked it, lol. Apparently they weren't amused. He was already under probation for the Bristol thing.

I forget who it was now, but recently there was another incident where someone was already on probation, wrecked someone in a Busch race and was reprimanded for it, but weren't forced to sit out of the Cup race the next day like Harvick was.

MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
They sat Jimmy Spencer out of Bristol after he broke Kurt Busch's nose. 01 or 02 (I think).
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That's right, I forgot about that. That was in August of 2003.
 
#42
#42
"I think the punishment on Friday fit the crime. I think anything more than that is going to be extremely disappointing, and really kind of a jaw-dropper." -Jeff Gordon


:rolleyes:
 
#43
#43
Turns out they got the same penalty that the #8 team did.

Kudos to NASCAR for showing a little consistency.
 
#44
#44
hey, fans want consitancy.

100,000 grr and 100 points for all!!

now let's hear the complaints from the fans.
 
#45
#45
tidwell said:
Turns out they got the same penalty that the #8 team did.

Kudos to NASCAR for showing a little consistency.
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Nascar finally got one right!

I have already seen a fan of Jimmie Johnson's on another board crying about Dale Jr not having to miss practice, qualifying, and not having to start from the back when he and his crew got in trouble. LOL

I still think the penalties and fines are harsh, no matter who it is, but they did set the rules and let them know what would happen ahead of time.
 
#46
#46
I definitely don't think the punishment fit the crime in this case. With Jr.'s penalty, they messed with fixed bolts, that NASCAR specifically said do not touch, that held the rear wing upright. They adjust those bolts, they adjust that rear wing. They did not make that car start at the rear of the field in Darlington and sit out an entire practice session. In these 2 cases, not only did they miss an entire practice and qualifying session, but they were messing an area of the car that NASCAR has no specific rules about. The template grid that the inspectors sit on the car has points that the teams cannot touch, and these teams were messing with an area in between those points on the fender. There are no specific rules about the area they were adjusting. I think the crew chiefs should have been suspended, but not for 6 races, maybe 3. I don't mind the fines and points, they will be fine with the chase. I just don't think the crew chiefs should have suspended for 6 races and the crimes were not as intentful as the ones that Jr's team pulled. Just my opinion.
 
#47
#47
there may not have been specific rules, i agree with you. however, NASCAR has made it pretty clear there are things you can't mess with, one of them being the body of the car.

i think Hendrick may have thought they found something, and wanted to test the waters. they chose the two cars they knew were in the Chase (well, pretty much) over their cars 10th and 20th.

just what i gather from what i heard and read. i think the 24 and 48 will be ok...


...unfortunantly.
 
#48
#48
oh I definitely think they'll be fine, wouldn't surprise me to see them win some races without their main crew chiefs, and in with the main crew chiefs back at the shop, they'll probably end up being stronger when the Chase starts since they'll have that time to work on those Chase cars.

I just think the penalties at the track and those announced today were altogether excessive.
 
#49
#49
and the crimes were not as intentful as the ones that Jr's team pulled.
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Are you kidding me? :eek:lol:

The 8 team used a part that NASCAR issued them while the 24 and 48 intentionally tried to get around a rule by messing with the body.
 
#50
#50
eh, maybe. depends on who you're a fan of.

i think Hendrick did this knowing what the outcome could be, therefore, they get the book thrown at them.
 
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