Grade UT vs Ole Miss game

#26
#26
Originally posted by vol_freak@Oct 1, 2005 9:56 PM
Really, Ga? I thought we didn't run enough of it. I just don't think we have much luck running the ball with our "beef" formations. Even against teams like Ole Miss.
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I'm just saying that I wanted to see us go smashmouth in the 4th quarter and just run over Ole Miss like the good ole days. But you are probably right . . .. I liked some of the wrinkles we showed with the bunched receivers, inside handoff to Taylor etc. . . .. but still, I think we really should be able to get in an I and show enough diversity get the running game going a little bit better.

This may sound odd, but I think our lack of a deep passing game is why we are running so much spread. We can't stretch the field vertically, so we are spreading it horizontally. I do give Randy Sanders props for being flexible though.
 
#27
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 1, 2005 10:04 PM
I'm just saying that I wanted to see us go smashmouth in the 4th quarter and just run over Ole Miss like the good ole days.  But you are probably right . . .. I liked some of the wrinkles we showed with the bunched receivers, inside handoff to Taylor etc. . . .. but still, I think we really should be able to get in an I and show enough diversity get the running game going a little bit better.

This may sound odd, but I think our lack of a deep passing game is why we are running so much spread.  We can't stretch the field vertically, so we are spreading it horizontally.  I do give Randy Sanders props for being flexible though.
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I will give Sanders credit for finally figuring it out.

I would love to see us line up in the I and just run it right down their throat but it's just not going to happen with this line, even against a 1 win Ole Miss team.
 
#28
#28
You know, I thought that Riggs looked good if not better running out of the shotgun on the delayed handoff and draws.

Sometimes Riggs will slow up after about 10 yards trying to make something happen when it just seems like he should power his way through at full speed and see what happens.
 
#29
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 1, 2005 10:15 PM
You know, I thought that Riggs looked good if not better running out of the shotgun on the delayed handoff and draws. 

Sometimes Riggs will slow up after about 10 yards trying to make something happen when it just seems like he should power his way through at full speed and see what happens.
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I totally agree. I think running out of the shotgun allows Riggs the chance to create for himself without having to rely on specific blocks to run behind.
 
#30
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I agree with you guys. I was surprised at how well Riggs did playing more like a scatback. That play where they bunch receivers to one side with Riggs behind them and then hand it to Riggs on a sweep is cool.
 
#31
#31
How can you not love our offensive line after the second half of the LSU game?

And

How can you not love our defense period?

I’m just waiting for everyone else to catch up.

The rest of our offense needs to step up and get right.
 
#32
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 1, 2005 9:15 PM
You know, I thought that Riggs looked good if not better running out of the shotgun on the delayed handoff and draws. 

Sometimes Riggs will slow up after about 10 yards trying to make something happen when it just seems like he should power his way through at full speed and see what happens.
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Riggs does the classic UT back field move, wait for the lead blockers to open a hole then burst through it. It's too predictable and unnecessary if the right plays were called, our offensive line should have to carry the backfield on it’s back.

 
#33
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Originally posted by Volsaholic@Oct 1, 2005 10:40 PM
Riggs does the classic UT back field move, wait for the lead blockers to open a hole then burst through it.  It's too predictable and unnecessary if the right plays were called, our offensive line should have to carry the backfield on it’s back.
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I'm not following you. Are you saying you don't like the zone plays and would rather run to a specific hole?
 
#34
#34
2 times UT had 1st down on Ole Miss's 8 yard line and couldn't run the ball.
 
#35
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Originally posted by Vol67@Oct 1, 2005 10:52 PM
2 times UT had 1st down on Ole Miss's 8 yard line and couldn't run the ball.
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Yep . . . That was my point earlier when I said something about using the spread. I'm all for using the entire field, but not at the expense of going completely away from power football. You have to be able to run it in the red zone and at the end of games when everybody expects it.
 
#36
#36
Not trying to add anything to the ST play, But its showing signs of improvement. Wilhoit has to be in a slump? I dont pin the blocked attempts on him. (unless he flat didnt get the ball up) Also for anyone with the handy stats was that Colquitts longest thus far ?(51)

It looked a bit like some of Dustins, good hang time with that lazy descent.
 
#37
#37
I am trying to remember, wasn't that the series when we ran it well out of the shotgun and then once we got in the red zone we lined up in the I and could not get it done??
 
#38
#38
What happen to the Power I UT use to run inside the 10? Think about it Anderson at FB 275, Holbert at Blocking Back 265, Riggs at TB 225. BEEEEEF.

Also what happened to the 5 wides UT use to run?

Fulmer has cut out alot of the playbook that was successful.

1 time Clausen lined up under center and once in shoutgun. Same results.

Explain to me why when its 3rd down and 10 or 15 Ut runs 3 to 6 yard routes?
 
#39
#39
I honestly can't remember. I will say too that another drawback to using a lot of spread is that if you don't throw from the I, then defenses will obviously tee off it when you try to run.

I sound like I don't like the Spread, but really I just want to see it sprinkled in and not poured in.
 
#40
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67, don't you think a lot of the 5 yard routes are because of Clausen being a little too willing to check down to them?
 
#41
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Originally posted by Vol67@Oct 1, 2005 11:00 PM
Explain to me why when its 3rd down and 10 or 15 Ut runs 3 to 6 yard routes?
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I was asking that in another thread. That drives me crazy.
 
#42
#42
No not really, they have done it all year with both QB's and they did it alot last year also.
 
#43
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Oct 1, 2005 11:05 PM
I was asking that in another thread. That drives me crazy.
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I credited to the genius of Randy Sanders
 
#44
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maybe because they expect the recievers to break tackles and run for yards after contact?
 
#45
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Originally posted by dan4vols@Oct 1, 2005 11:09 PM
maybe because they expect the recievers to break tackles and run for yards after contact?
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Hard to do when the defense is playing cover 3
 
#46
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Originally posted by Volsaholic@Oct 1, 2005 10:40 PM
Riggs does the classic UT back field move, wait for the lead blockers to open a hole then burst through it.  It's too predictable and unnecessary if the right plays were called, our offensive line should have to carry the backfield on it’s back.
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I have been saying this all season!!!!

Get rid of the fullback and use a single back offense with a tight end or 4 wr's. Let him find the running room. Forcing him to run behind the fullback is great if there is a hole but if there is no hole he's committed and he gets not much.
 
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Originally posted by dan4vols@Oct 1, 2005 11:09 PM
maybe because they expect the recievers to break tackles and run for yards after contact?
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I think that's obviously the idea but it doesn't work and I don't think the WRs have much of a chance to break 10 yards after the catch on the plays I have seen.
 
#48
#48
No lie. Ole Miss was dropping like crazy on defense. There were times when they dropped 8 into coverage.
 
#49
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 1, 2005 10:15 PM
You know, I thought that Riggs looked good if not better running out of the shotgun on the delayed handoff and draws. 

Sometimes Riggs will slow up after about 10 yards trying to make something happen when it just seems like he should power his way through at full speed and see what happens.
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I have been saying this all season. Ditch the fullback and go with either a tight end or 4 wide receivers. All these backs run better as a single back because they find the running and arent forced to follow the lead block hoping a hole opens up.
 
#50
#50
I know it's not cool nowadays, but I think football was meant to be played with a fullback.
 
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