Graduation Rates for Top 25 Teams........

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eerie how similar that is to the top 25 poll....especially at the top. apparently *shocker* smart football players are pretty good ones to boot.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Well, if that's the case, it appears the football staff is doing a pretty good job.
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You can't draw that conclusion from the data provided. The football team isn't composed of nothing but freshmen. I guarantee you that the graduation rates for sophomores, and particularly juniors and seniors for the student population as a whole are FAR higher than they are for freshmen.
 
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Vol423 said:
You can't draw that conclusion from the data provided. The football team isn't composed of nothing but freshmen. I guarantee you that the graduation rates for sophomores, and particularly juniors and seniors for the student population as a whole are FAR higher than they are for freshmen.
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They use entering freshmen to calculate this data. Hence, this measure should be for roughly the 2000 or 2001 entering class. Thus, the freshmen who came onto campus as football players did a hell of a lot better job of graduating than their non-athlete peers.
 
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Vol423 said:
You can't draw that conclusion from the data provided. The football team isn't composed of nothing but freshmen. I guarantee you that the graduation rates for sophomores, and particularly juniors and seniors for the student population as a whole are FAR higher than they are for freshmen.
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He's right. That wasn't a stat from the football team. Those were stats just saying that 1 out of every 4 people that enroll at UT will graduate. The rate is a little higher for sophomores, because alot of people leave after just one year. Of course, the numbers are substantially higher for juniors and seniors.
 
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They just single out the football team. I would be interested to see how this compares to the whole student body. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the football teams had higher graduation rates than the rest of the school.
 
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frankly i could care less. but the ncaa now has standards for grad. rates and they can reduce schollies.
 
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Also students switch schools and wind up graduating somewhere else and or later on down the road.
 
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If they really want to make graduation rates go up among college football players, give them an incentive to stay in school. As much money as the universities make from football programs, they could give them a small amount of money to account for their time practicing, the same way other students are treated with they work in the library or cafeteria or teaching a lab for x.xx amount of dollars a week. Just a thought.
 
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This is perhaps the single most irrelevant statistic ever posted on this board -- and I say that with Florida notching an 80 percent graduation clip. Why? Easy: the task of graudating from school to school is totally different. Just because you could graduate from Nebraska (and apparently virtually everyone does) does not in turn mean you would also graduate from Notre Dame. Perhaps Florida just has super-easy basket weaving classes for its players. Or maybe they have tutors and really focus their kids on academics. You don't know.

And that is why the statistic is utterly meaningless.
 
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They are misleading stats either way you look at. For sports, or the general population. Statistics is a measuring tool that bends easily for the intended result. 1 out of 4 freshmen in general population doesn't take into account if they continued there education at all, or somewhere else. Just not at UT. I went from FHU to ACU back to FHU and graduated. I got counted twice as non-graduating stat, and once as a graduating stat. Two of those stats in the same school. And hold the degree. I do agree that although I don't suuport fully paid collegiate athletes, their non-game services for time rendered to practice or other things could be treated nominally as work study, or campus employment, if for nothing else than a little pocket change. There'd have to be limits to control abuse. As long as the NCAA allows the pros to recruit early, you'll never see graduation rates climb too high.
 
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you gotta be kiddin

you know very well the vast majority of those guys are to to try to become a pro and make some cash.

school is just a diversion for them
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is perhaps the single most irrelevant statistic ever posted on this board -- and I say that with Florida notching an 80 percent graduation clip. Why? Easy: the task of graudating from school to school is totally different. Just because you could graduate from Nebraska (and apparently virtually everyone does) does not in turn mean you would also graduate from Notre Dame. Perhaps Florida just has super-easy basket weaving classes for its players. Or maybe they have tutors and really focus their kids on academics. You don't know.

And that is why the statistic is utterly meaningless.
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I figured you would be gloating LG.:question: What are you guys hiding down there?:) I'll have my private investigator to check in on that too while he's trying to figure out how Marcus Thomas had such a time lapse between drug test, which are normally 4 weeks apart, not approximately 45 days.:whistling: see attached
Marcus Thomas Scouting Report - 2007 NFL Draft Prospect
 
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patrick said:
you gotta be kiddin

you know very well the vast majority of those guys are to to try to become a pro and make some cash.

school is just a diversion for them
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Of course it is a diversion for them. That's why they bail out when their draft report gets high enough. Then they get that big bonus, spend it, get hurt, fall to the wayside, and become nothing to themselves. I've just always had the belief that it is a contract, and if you accept a scholly from a school you are obligated to fulfill that scholly. Atleast then, when the average pro athlete plays the average numbers of years of an average pro athlete, he has a more than average chance of becoming something more on the outside from having been prepared. In essence they are getting paid. Everything it costs to attend school except for spending cash is provided. Plus they get way better meals than joe student. And, I'm not a bookworm. I'm a former athlete. Not one you've heard of.
 
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