Graphic Anti-abortion commercials during Super Bowl

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Scotty's Flat Top said:
How in the hell is this comparable to Westboro protests?
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Both are attention whoring, imo.

One could argue that Westboro is far worse in degree because its at a funeral.

One could argue the SB ad is far worse in degree because it reaches millions of people.


Overall, best way to put it I think is that both are wildly inappropriate to the occasion.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Both are attention whoring, imo.

One could argue that Westboro is far worse in degree because its at a funeral.

One could argue the SB ad is far worse in degree because it reaches millions of people.

Overall, best way to put it I think is that both are wildly inappropriate to the occasion.
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You use this statement frequently and broadly to dismiss anything you don't like.
 
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It's all shock persuasion. If anyone thinks these commercials are going to persuade a significant number of people, they're high off their gourd.

Headed For Home said:
How do you propose that pro-lifers gain this credibility?
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Well, they can start by pulling ads like these. Just like many posters have said, this ad will only further entrench everyone in their respective beliefs and cement stereotypes already in place.

Pro-lifers can gain this credibility simply by vacating their current tactics. The clinic protests, the commercials, the rallies... it's too extreme to persuade others.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
It's all shock persuasion. If anyone thinks these commercials are going to persuade a significant number of people, they're high off their gourd.



Well, they can start by pulling ads like these. Just like many posters have said, this ad will only further entrench everyone in their respective beliefs and cement stereotypes already in place.

Pro-lifers can gain this credibility simply by vacating their current tactics. The clinic protests, the commercials, the rallies... it's too extreme to persuade others.
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This tells me what you think they should not do but nothing about what they should do.
 
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You asked what he propose they do. He proposed what they should do. There's your answer. Just because it isn't lining up with your proposal doesn't mean he didn't answer you. He just didn't give you the answer you desired.
 
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nbakerld said:
You use this statement frequently and broadly to dismiss anything you don't like.
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Ok. But I see a lot of conservatives agreeing with me as to its application to this particular issue. So if you'd like to explain why I'm wrong, giddy up.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Ok. But I see a lot of conservatives agreeing with me as to its application to this particular issue. So if you'd like to explain why I'm wrong, giddy up.
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It's attention whoring just as much as any campaign or political commercial.

You said airing this during Super Bowl is inappropriate. I don't understand why. Maybe you can elaborate on that, and maybe suggest an appropriate time to get their message out there.
 
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It seems to be more the "how" than the "when". Running an anti-abortion ad during the Super Bowl is fine. Running an anti-abortion ad full of images of aborted fetuses during the Super Bowl is in absolutely pathetic taste. It's disgusting enough to pull this stunt on college campuses. It's even worse to do it to millions of people all at once.
 
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DynamiteMcGhee said:
It seems to be more the "how" than the "when". Running an anti-abortion ad during the Super Bowl is fine. Running an anti-abortion ad full of images of aborted fetuses during the Super Bowl is in absolutely pathetic taste. It's disgusting enough to pull this stunt on college campuses. It's even worse to do it to millions of people all at once.
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Kind of reminds me of this, but hopefully I'll only have to see the abortion one once.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gspElv1yvc[/youtube]
 
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DynamiteMcGhee said:
You asked what he propose they do. He proposed what they should do. There's your answer. Just because it isn't lining up with your proposal doesn't mean he didn't answer you. He just didn't give you the answer you desired.
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No you are incorrect. The argument has been that the spots are inappropriate and counter productive. I am asking what these guys think would be productive. That is the answer I have not received.
 
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Headed For Home said:
No you are incorrect. The argument has been that the spots are inappropriate and counter productive. I am asking what these guys think would be productive. That is the answer I have not received.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqReTDJSdhE[/youtube]

It's probably the corniest commercial ever made, but it's lightyears better than having your Super Bowl party ruined by pictures of an aborted fetus. Shock factor is going to get you more cable news network buzz than changed minds.
 
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DynamiteMcGhee said:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqReTDJSdhE[/youtube]

It's probably the corniest commercial ever made, but it's lightyears better than having your Super Bowl party ruined by pictures of an aborted fetus. Shock factor is going to get you more cable news network buzz than changed minds.
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I don't think either one are changing minds.....or changing policy.
 
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nbakerld said:
I don't think either one are changing minds.....or changing policy.
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No, but if you absolutely must put out a pro life ad on Super Bowl Sunday, that seems to be the better route. I'd rather have "I chose not to do it and now my child is living a healthy, successful life" as opposed to dead, underdeveloped babies flashed on screen.
 
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DynamiteMcGhee said:
No, but if you absolutely must put out a pro life ad on Super Bowl Sunday, that seems to be the better route. I'd rather have "I chose not to do it and now my child is living a healthy, successful life" as opposed to dead, underdeveloped babies flashed on screen.
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Where is Nick Cannon when you need him? Maybe he's changed his views on abortion since having twins with crazy-ass Mariah.
 
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nbakerld said:
It's attention whoring just as much as any campaign or political commercial.

You said airing this during Super Bowl is inappropriate. I don't understand why. Maybe you can elaborate on that, and maybe suggest an appropriate time to get their message out there.
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I'm going to go with the point someone else made earlier itt that the Super Bowl is a spectacle of sport and basically a celebratory party. Call it tradition, but commercials during the SB are renowned for their humor and lightheartedness, not shock value for a long smoldering debate about a complicated issue.
 
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