Ground zero mosque.

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Earlier today, Mayor Bloomberg responded to my comments about the planned mosque at Ground Zero by suggesting that a decision not to allow the building of a mosque at that sacred place would somehow violate American principles of tolerance and openness.

No one is disputing that America stands for – and should stand for – religious tolerance. It is a foundation of our republic. This is not an issue of religious tolerance but of common moral sense. To build a mosque at Ground Zero is a stab in the heart of the families of the innocent victims of those horrific attacks. Just days after 9/11, the spiritual leader of the organization that wants to build the mosque, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, suggested that blame be placed on the innocents when he stated that the “United States’ policies were an accessory to the crime that happened” and that “in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.” Rauf refuses to recognize that Hamas is a terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of our ally, Israel, and refuses to provide information about the sources of funding for the $100 million mosque. Rauf also plays a key role in a group behind the flotilla designed to provoke Israel in its justifiable blockade of Gaza. These are just a few of the points Americans are realizing as New York considers the proposed mosque just a stone’s throw away from 9/11’s sacred ground.

I agree with the sister of one of the 9/11 victims (and a New York resident) who said: “This is a place which is 600 feet from where almost 3,000 people were torn to pieces by Islamic extremists. I think that it is incredibly insensitive and audacious really for them to build a mosque, not only on that site, but to do it specifically so that they could be in proximity to where that atrocity happened.”

Many Americans, myself included, feel it would be an intolerable and tragic mistake to allow such a project sponsored by such an individual to go forward on such hallowed ground. This is nothing close to “religious intolerance,” it’s just common decency.

- Sarah Palin

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I'd like to ship Bloomberg to Saudi Arabia and see how long he lasts!!!!!!!!!

Reportedly they wanted to build a mosque in Moscow and were told when the Russins could build an Orthodox Church in Ridyah they would consider it.

Maybe socialism is the way to go.

Calling this the Cordoba house is also an insult to anyone with any sort of historical perspective.

When the Muslims invaded and conquered Spain, they took the grand cathedral of Cordoba and converted it into a mosque.

They sent their jihadist soldiers out each year to the villiages and took thousands of the fairest young maidens to serve as concubines in the harems of the sultans.

They built their Jerusalem mosque on the ruins of two previous Hebrew temples. Just two historical examples among hundreds of thousands of examples. It's their victory statement!

In most places where islam has come to reign, they have completely erased the vestiges of any previous religion ever even being there and they continue to do so until today.
 
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The emotional resistance is completely understandable, but could anything legally be done to stop the mosque from going up?
 
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gorockytop101 said:
The emotional resistance is completely understandable, but could anything legally be done to stop the mosque from going up?
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I don't know, probably not much after the new yorkers voted 29-1 to approve the building permit, I suppose delaying law suits could be filed.

You can bet the Dakota Bar will be run out of business soon.

In Boise, Idaho Bosnian muslims have just opened up an islamic center in an old church and remodeled it to appear to be a mosque with minerets.

For those who understand how islam works, this is the infiltration phase which is used against unaware infidel societies such as ours.

Chechen Terrorists Break Into Russian Power Station, Kill Guards, And Knock Out Power For Two Months

If you're wondering how this affects America, check the subtext of Medvedev's recent visit to Washington: America listed the Chechen leader as a terrorist and Russia removed a ban on US poultry imports. In other words, we've cast our lots in this escalating crisis.
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What's so wrong with looking for a different site to build it? What an insult to so many people who lost friends and family in that attack.
 
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It's private property. So long as nothing illegal is going on it should be between the property owner and buyer. I don't necessarily like it, but the last thing I want is the government what I can and can't build on a properly zoned piece of private property.
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lumberjack4 said:
It's private property. So long as nothing illegal is going on it should be between the property owner and buyer. I don't necessarily like it, but the last thing I want is the government what I can and can't build on a properly zoned piece of private property.
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I can see both sides on this. I saw a debate last week and they said it's not a mosque, but a museum of some sorts on islam.
 
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lumberjack4 said:
It's private property. So long as nothing illegal is going on it should be between the property owner and buyer. I don't necessarily like it, but the last thing I want is the government what I can and can't build on a properly zoned piece of private property.
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So if someone buys property in your neighborhood and wants to put, say, a strip club there, you would be ok with it? Of course you wouldn't. You'd be down at city hall voicing your opinion against.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
So if someone buys property in your neighborhood and wants to put, say, a strip club there, you would be ok with it? Of course you wouldn't. You'd be down at city hall voicing your opinion against.
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But I think the plot of land in question had been zoned for religious purposes, if that even makes sense. Not sure how the process works.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
So if someone buys property in your neighborhood and wants to put, say, a strip club there, you would be ok with it? Of course you wouldn't. You'd be down at city hall voicing your opinion against.
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Heck yes I'd be ok with it! All I would have to do is walk home.
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There is one going up a mile or so from my house. But I find this despicable. It really kind of sickens me.
 
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If the heathens are allowed to build a mosque on that site I hope and pray it won't stand a month. I would donate to a fund designed to see to it that the mosque received the same fate as the world trade center towers.
 
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Answering Muslims: Dearborn Muslims Mourn Death of Terrorist

Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah was the spiritual leader of Hezbollah, and was responsible for the 1983 terrorist attack against the U.S. Marine barracks and the U.S. embassy in Beirut, which killed more than 300 people.

Fadlallah has praised terrorist attacks against Israel, and has been deemed a terrorist by the U.S. government. Not surprisingly, many U.S. Muslims are mourning his death.
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Coming to a mosque near you soon.
 
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look into the symbolism behind what happened in Cordoba, Spain prior to the Crusades
 
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lumberjack4 said:
It's private property. So long as nothing illegal is going on it should be between the property owner and buyer. I don't necessarily like it, but the last thing I want is the government what I can and can't build on a properly zoned piece of private property.
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agreed. Like many issues, I may not personally like it but it is within the laws of the US/city.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
So if someone buys property in your neighborhood and wants to put, say, a strip club there, you would be ok with it? Of course you wouldn't. You'd be down at city hall voicing your opinion against.
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I would fight the city for zoning a piece of commercial property next to my house.
 
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It's in incredibly bad taste, but in a way I can see a point to separating out the overall religion of Islam from what the terrorists did.


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i was listening to a radio program about this and the guest said that to the muslims it is a very significant symbol. he proceded to give numerous example of when muslim had built mosques after they had defeated various foes throughout history. he said the mosques have always been a sign of victory over their enemy. he said when they took over land from Israel they always built a mosque once they controlled the land. it was really interesting show. the guy said this was par to the course of what muslims do to show the muslim world how they are winning against their enemies.
 
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NY city deserves this though. their liberal ideology deserves this. I have no pity for NY city.
 
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joevol320 said:
he proceded to give numerous example of when muslim had built mosques after they had defeated various foes throughout history.
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I thought we've been told on here that it wasn't important what a religious group had done in history and we should only concern ourselves with the present.
 
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joevol320 said:
i was listening to a radio program about this and the guest said that to the muslims it is a very significant symbol. he proceded to give numerous example of when muslim had built mosques after they had defeated various foes throughout history. he said the mosques have always been a sign of victory over their enemy. he said when they took over land from Israel they always built a mosque once they controlled the land. it was really interesting show. the guy said this was par to the course of what muslims do to show the muslim world how they are winning against their enemies.
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this is why i object to it. it sends a message to the terrorists that if they do evil islam will grow out of the rubble. it actually encourages further terrorism. a lot of money being spent on this and don't tell me a lot of it isn't sympathic to al queada.
 
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droski said:
this is why i object to it. it sends a message to the terrorists that if they do evil islam will grow out of the rubble. it actually encourages further terrorism. a lot of money being spent on this and don't tell me a lot of it isn't sympathic to al queada.
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That is one of the main questions, no one knows where the funding is coming from. They are trying to put one up where I live and same thing, the people behind the funding are questionable at best.
 
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