Gurley 1.5 yrds short on 3rd down

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A game is never decided on one play. We had chances and didn't capitalize.

I get your point and there is no telling what the outcome would have been but the decision making and play call for a 4th and 5.5 is much different than 4th and 3. Richt may have opted to punt in that case or may have opted for a pass play. Did it decide the outcome. .. probably no. Did it impact the outcome? Quite possibly.
 
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Ok I'm not going to say it would've made a difference which it may or may not have. Maybe it certainly makes them call a different play? Who knows.

But good Lord when you put the two pictures together like that... That is terrible...
 
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Thats it, blame the refs again. Theyre our problem. The only thing keeping us from being amazing.
 
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It was a terrible spot.

I don't think that the spot made a huge difference, but the added effect of all the hometown officiating probably cost us the game.

I have seen it posted on this forum before, but it should not surprise anyone that Georgia had an officiating advantage (Freakonomics » “Football Freakonomics”: How Advantageous Is Home-Field Advantage? And Why?).

The referees can't help but be biased according to the above-linked article.

Georgia receives a substantial home field boost (Phil Steele).
 
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I noticed the terrible spot and wondered if Butch would challenge, but we didn't have a timeout left.
 
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We were screwed on many calls... That spot...gurley supposed reach over touchdown...no call on fair catch n run..I counted 7 holding calls refs missed going over the tape.. And I could go on... But its not worth it...

It boils down to uga being sece best chance at playoff and gurleys heisman campaign. And it was between the hedges..

I believe it bc u can see it....it doesn't take a genius to see the corruption or favorites. Also I don't believe that halftime penalty would have been called on the SEC good ole boy saban either. But its not why we lost
 
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you can't fumble in your own end zone and expect to win....against anyone, much less the#12 in the country on the road. We make less mistakes in this game and we win it in spite of Gurley's 200 yards effort. This game wasn't about the ref's robbing us, we beat ourselves more than anything Saturday.

Really? No one has ever won a game after fumbling in their own end zone?

Of course UT has a better chance of winning if they make fewer mistakes. But you are trying to draw a false dichotomy. The fact that fewer mistakes might have turned the game does NOTHING to diminish the possibility that some poor decisions by the officials could have turned the game.

Mistakes happen. Officials make mistakes. I'm more bothered by patterns. Their pattern in this game was to let UGA get away with holds and take downs. It may not have changed who won... but it did have some impact on the result.


Oh, and frankly, the poor spot might have had as much impact on the end of this game as the fumble in the end zone. With a true spot, you have a punt and UT gets a shot.
 
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Holy cow, I just watched the replay after seeing this to double check and his knee was down at the 31 yard line (AND THAT'S VERY FAVORABLE) and they spotted the ball at the 34! How do you miss 3/4 full yards?! That's 12 feet!
 
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Disgraceful! For perspective,He is in the same spot in both pics; pic 1 is where he was down on the previous play, pic 2 is where he began to go in motion on the following play.

How is that missed?????
 
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One play never loses or wins a game. I know fans like to focus on what if that one play didn't happen but one play is normally less than 1℅ of the plays in a ball game. The other 99 plays had a bigger influence on the outcome of the game
 
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CBJ has a lot to discuss with the SEC office regarding Saturday's officiating. The holding discrepancies are one thing, but the no-calls on the fair catches (our guy gets hit, theirs takes off running) and this crucial spot are either complete ineptitude or refs playing favorites. I lean toward the latter.
 
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We were screwed on many calls... That spot...gurley supposed reach over touchdown...no call on fair catch n run..I counted 7 holding calls refs missed going over the tape.. And I could go on... But its not worth it...

It boils down to uga being sece best chance at playoff and gurleys heisman campaign. And it was between the hedges..


SEC officiating is suspect at best. They protect the higher ranked teams.
 
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I agree one play doesn't make a difference (usually). however I myself said the same thing when watching the game. I don't think he made the 4th down either. If you watch the replay I believe the ball was short although at fast speed his momentum appears he made it easily.

I also hate the rule about just the ball having the pass the plane on the goal line. I think a player should have to get in the end zone or at least shoulder pads up. I hate they can be 1 yard out and reach out the ball.
 
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SEC officiating is suspect at best. They protect the higher ranked teams.

Yep! Like I say it is so easy to see the corruption and how the better/favorite team gets all the calls or no calls. It is so much injustice that goes on it makes it unbearable. But everything in this world seems to be crooked so no suprise. Needs to be a union. Refs need to call it right/fair or be tossed out of the game. This is another reason I don't pull for sec.....its staged, corrupt, and buddy system.

Another one that comes to mind is ref in bama and I believe ole miss a season ago. Were the ref looked back @ first down marker to see how he was gonna set the ball...which give bama either a first down or close to it. Ref got caught cheating and nothing done.......why? Bc it helps slives good ole boy saban out that's why. I'm with the rest of the nation.....yea sec cheats!!! Love of money is root of all kinds of corruption in sports as well!
 
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Oh and since refs don't seem to be calling much holding. Maybe Vols need to look into it as well. Oh nevermind I forgot they called North for a petty non exsisting hold lol. Can't expect any help from the refs.
 
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Holy cow, I just watched the replay after seeing this to double check and his knee was down at the 31 yard line (AND THAT'S VERY FAVORABLE) and they spotted the ball at the 34! How do you miss 3/4 full yards?! That's 12 feet!

I did the same thing. Originally I dismissed this as just another whiny complaint thread. But after seeing the play - Holy cow that was a horrific spot. The linesman was way out of position and had to completely guess as he chased the play. He turned a tough 4th and 7 where they might've punted into a 4th and 3 where they could just run Gurley again.

Probably wouldn't have mattered, but that play needs to be turned in.

P.S. I still think you guys talking about ref conspiracies and picking favorites are crazy.
 
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I did the same thing. Originally I dismissed this as just another whiny complaint thread. But after seeing the play - Holy cow that was a horrific spot. The linesman was way out of position and had to completely guess as he chased the play. He turned a tough 4th and 7 where they might've punted into a 4th and 3 where they could just run Gurley again.

Probably wouldn't have mattered, but that play needs to be turned in.

Not matter??? All we needed was a FG to tie. The way Worley had been throwing...we'd had a shot even with no timeouts.
 
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I think the point may have been that the 3rd down spot would have changed the 4th down spot and possibly the play call.

I'm more bothered by the early game hold that was not called on Gurley's first good run compared with the ridiculous call on North. I'm bothered more by the double standard on holding in that game more than any other thing with the officials.

I also thought the call on North was a bit unjustified.
 
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One play never loses or wins a game. I know fans like to focus on what if that one play didn't happen but one play is normally less than 1℅ of the plays in a ball game. The other 99 plays had a bigger influence on the outcome of the game

That dropped pass by Gafney in endzone several yrs ago made influence
 
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I did the same thing. Originally I dismissed this as just another whiny complaint thread. But after seeing the play - Holy cow that was a horrific spot. The linesman was way out of position and had to completely guess as he chased the play. He turned a tough 4th and 7 where they might've punted into a 4th and 3 where they could just run Gurley again.

Probably wouldn't have mattered, but that play needs to be turned in.

P.S. I still think you guys talking about ref conspiracies and picking favorites are crazy.

I think corrupt cops, lawyers, politicians and judges sounds crazy too ......but its real! Not doubt in my heart it goes for the refs. Whenever big money is involved, chance it is some injustice goin on. Also checkout ref spotting ball for bama last yr vs ole miss I think it was. That one told me all I need to know about the injustice that ncaa and sec doesn't want ppl to know.
 
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No I completely agree with you I'm just saying with the time left the final result would likely be the same. The officials were awful as usual. Butch needs to go off on the SEC and demand some answers before this gets more out of hand.

fans miss more calls than referees:lolabove:
 
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One play never loses or wins a game. I know fans like to focus on what if that one play didn't happen but one play is normally less than 1℅ of the plays in a ball game. The other 99 plays had a bigger influence on the outcome of the game

You'd have a point if it was just one play. There have been about 5 or 6 very specific and game turning calls that have been mentioned in this very thread... and that's beyond the pattern of letting UGA get away with holding consistently. Did Gurley really need that help? I don't think so. Some of the worst examples were where UGA players would engage high then slide down UT players and finally grab them by the ankles for a few 10th's of a second. Those "blocks" often made a difference of more than 3 yards on the play.

I HOPE UGA does the same thing to you... and gets away with it while you get BS calls. Partly so you might understand... and partly just because I despise UF so much.
 
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