Had lunch with Kirk Herbstreit last week

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As the title said I had a PNC bank lunch function with Kirk Herbstreet last week. The guy is amazingly personable and downright funny.

This function was at Vestavia CC in Birmingham so obviously he spoke of the iron bowl game and how everyone will remember where they were when the end of that game happened. After his synopsis he did a title game review and as he said he could not actually give a probable score as that conflicts with work require that he refrains from that but he was inferring FSU. Many Auburn fans were shouting out some comments during his team review of both. Spoke about SEC homerism and how they pay little attention to other conferences and he used Michigan State as an example as he was doing a poll on who in the crowd thought they should be number four in the playoff system next year. No one could answer after Bama at three between Baylor, Stanford, or MSU.

He then did a Q&A session and the Bama and Aubie homers came out in full force and one woman was downright rude to him about him elaborating on the fluke of an iron bowl, I know big surprise there. A guy stood up on the other side of the room and was asking about Vandy and the SEC East. Kirk said what he has done is amazing and he hears about him all the time as he lives in Nashville and his kids go to Montgomery Bell Academy, but they have hit their peak. Spoke about some of the powerhouse teams being either injured or rebuilding. Talked about Stoops helping out UK and their constant ball vs fball struggles and the energy surrounding him with regards to recruiting. Talked about Mizzou and how respected Gary Pinkle is and how for nearly a decade they have been playing good ball and he fell into his SEC homerism rant a little about their recent inclusion and lack of respect.

He avoided UF but said they have issues. He then came to us and the first thing he said was it isn't 98 anymore and we haven't been relevant since 2001. But, he did say that he thinks Butch Jones is a hell of a coach and is going to "kill it"in Knoxville. He also said he doesn't follow recruiting very much but there is a whole lot of talk about Tennessee again and there hasn't been since the Kiffin experiment. He did blame our fall on Fulmer and said it was his fault and not Kiffin's and Lane had been spreading that rumor as well.

Kirk looked over the whole crowd and said people in Alabama better watch out because the Vols will be back to their old selves and punishing some Bama teams. The hall got very quiet for a moment and it brought me back to the late 90's when I moved here.

He finished and then and I spoke to him very briefly on exiting and thanked him for his UT comments and he said he meant every word as UT will be back if Butch is given a couple of years to rebuild. He then signed a football for my son that he got for Christmas.

Enjoy and Merry Christmas
 
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As far as the national championship picture, he's right. Tennessee hasnt been in it since 2001.

I agree with the downfall starting with Fulmer. The program was practically on auto-pilot for 3 or 4 years before the reality hit in 2008. Everyone knew the roster was thin with depth and talent when Fulmer left. People talk about those players who left when Kiffin came in, well, very few went elsewhere and played. Most should have never been signed. Regardless if Tennessee had signed Saban instead of Kiffin, the mess was made and it would have taken him 3 or 4 yrs to rebuilt. That is how long it will take Jones. Lets be patient and give him time. JMO
 
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Awesome story. Ive heard him say this kind of stuff many times over the past year, i believe he is being completely honest are truly believe in CBJ. Maybe we can start getting some ESPN love if we start winning some games.

The Oklahoma game next year is gonna be huge, and a chance for CBJ to show what strides his team has made. Oh, and Florida is a MUST WIN this year, Neyland should be rocking, especially if we pull out 2 wins in Norman and Athens, which i think is definitely possible, but that hasn't been that problem in our games against Florida.

Excited to see Butch turn it around and hopefully get the Vols back on top. Next year may be the best year to do it, as it seems Florida, Georgia and South Carolina will be down. I am hoping for a Mizzou/UT race for the East, which would be amazing thinking where those two programs were when they played in Neyland 2 years ago.
 
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Kirk looked over the whole crowd and said people in Alabama better watch out because the Vols will be back to their old selves and punishing some Bama teams. The hall got very quiet for a moment and it brought me back to the late 90's when I moved here.

Favorite quote from your post. Can not wait for this to happen.
 
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I've always liked Herbstreit . Most of the guys on this site have said he was garbage when he wasn't fluffing UT. Now they will claim he's the only talking head that knows what he's talking about. LOL. This board is hilarious.

The last Herbstreit speech thread spawned the legendary Gruden series.
 
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Awesome story. Ive heard him say this kind of stuff many times over the past year, i believe he is being completely honest are truly believe in CBJ. Maybe we can start getting some ESPN love if we start winning some games.

The Oklahoma game next year is gonna be huge, and a chance for CBJ to show what strides his team has made. Oh, and Florida is a MUST WIN this year, Neyland should be rocking, especially if we pull out 2 wins in Norman and Athens, which i think is definitely possible, but that hasn't been that problem in our games against Florida.

Excited to see Butch turn it around and hopefully get the Vols back on top. Next year may be the best year to do it, as it seems Florida, Georgia and South Carolina will be down. I am hoping for a Mizzou/UT race for the East, which would be amazing thinking where those two programs were when they played in Neyland 2 years ago.

Easy there. Your expectations appear to be a year ahead of schedule
 
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I find it amazing that Hart's 10th choice on his list of potential head coachs at U.T. will actually turn out to be the best one.
I, for one, was freaking out when no "Big named" coach was really interested in the position or Hart was not interested in the few "Big Named" coachs who were interested.
I thought "here we go again"
 
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Thanks for posting. I've always liked Kirk Herbstreit, even if he was a Buckeye.
 
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I've always liked Herbstreit . Most of the guys on this site have said he was garbage when he wasn't fluffing UT. Now they will claim he's the only talking head that knows what he's talking about. LOL. This board is hilarious.


Kirk is the only talking head that knows what he is talking about! ........for now. :)


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As the title said I had a PNC bank lunch function with Kirk Herbstreet last week. The guy is amazingly personable and downright funny.

This function was at Vestavia CC in Birmingham so obviously he spoke of the iron bowl game and how everyone will remember where they were when the end of that game happened. After his synopsis he did a title game review and as he said he could not actually give a probable score as that conflicts with work require that he refrains from that but he was inferring FSU. Many Auburn fans were shouting out some comments during his team review of both. Spoke about SEC homerism and how they pay little attention to other conferences and he used Michigan State as an example as he was doing a poll on who in the crowd thought they should be number four in the playoff system next year. No one could answer after Bama at three between Baylor, Stanford, or MSU.

He then did a Q&A session and the Bama and Aubie homers came out in full force and one woman was downright rude to him about him elaborating on the fluke of an iron bowl, I know big surprise there. A guy stood up on the other side of the room and was asking about Vandy and the SEC East. Kirk said what he has done is amazing and he hears about him all the time as he lives in Nashville and his kids go to Montgomery Bell Academy, but they have hit their peak. Spoke about some of the powerhouse teams being either injured or rebuilding. Talked about Stoops helping out UK and their constant ball vs fball struggles and the energy surrounding him with regards to recruiting. Talked about Mizzou and how respected Gary Pinkle is and how for nearly a decade they have been playing good ball and he fell into his SEC homerism rant a little about their recent inclusion and lack of respect.

He avoided UF but said they have issues. He then came to us and the first thing he said was it isn't 98 anymore and we haven't been relevant since 2001. But, he did say that he thinks Butch Jones is a hell of a coach and is going to "kill it"in Knoxville. He also said he doesn't follow recruiting very much but there is a whole lot of talk about Tennessee again and there hasn't been since the Kiffin experiment. He did blame our fall on Fulmer and said it was his fault and not Kiffin's and Lane had been spreading that rumor as well.

Kirk looked over the whole crowd and said people in Alabama better watch out because the Vols will be back to their old selves and punishing some Bama teams. The hall got very quiet for a moment and it brought me back to the late 90's when I moved here.

He finished and then and I spoke to him very briefly on exiting and thanked him for his UT comments and he said he meant every word as UT will be back if Butch is given a couple of years to rebuild. He then signed a football for my son that he got for Christmas.

Enjoy and Merry Christmas

good post
 
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Seen Herby around town at different youth football events. I have never spoken to him, but I see many fans/parents talk to him quite a bit. He never seems annoyed.
Better man than me I would loose my mind if I was trying to watch my kids play and tons of people are bothering me about cfb.
 
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Awesome story. Ive heard him say this kind of stuff many times over the past year, i believe he is being completely honest are truly believe in CBJ. Maybe we can start getting some ESPN love if we start winning some games.

The Oklahoma game next year is gonna be huge, and a chance for CBJ to show what strides his team has made. Oh, and Florida is a MUST WIN this year, Neyland should be rocking, especially if we pull out 2 wins in Norman and Athens, which i think is definitely possible, but that hasn't been that problem in our games against Florida.

Excited to see Butch turn it around and hopefully get the Vols back on top. Next year may be the best year to do it, as it seems Florida, Georgia and South Carolina will be down. I am hoping for a Mizzou/UT race for the East, which would be amazing thinking where those two programs were when they played in Neyland 2 years ago.

Hey man you have A LOT of optimism and hope that does make you loosing next season. IF they win in NORMAN great. I just want to see a good game. The UGA game will be good just because the game last season.
 
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Saying Kiffin had nothing to do with the shape the program is in now is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. He did his part in sinking the ship.
 
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I also had the chance to meet him after he did gameday. And he was a very nice guy. I have always liked listening to him call games for abc
 
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I've always liked Herbstreit . Most of the guys on this site have said he was garbage when he wasn't fluffing UT. Now they will claim he's the only talking head that knows what he's talking about. LOL. This board is hilarious.

I agree. But I think Palmer needs to go back to reality TV.
 
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I also had the chance to meet him after he did gameday. And he was a very nice guy. I have always liked listening to him call games for abc

how many awards did u receive, were u nervous, thanks for making it possible for us to view the inside workings of big time celebrites.
 
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Awesome story. Ive heard him say this kind of stuff many times over the past year, i believe he is being completely honest are truly believe in CBJ. Maybe we can start getting some ESPN love if we start winning some games.

The Oklahoma game next year is gonna be huge, and a chance for CBJ to show what strides his team has made. Oh, and Florida is a MUST WIN this year, Neyland should be rocking, especially if we pull out 2 wins in Norman and Athens, which i think is definitely possible, but that hasn't been that problem in our games against Florida.

Excited to see Butch turn it around and hopefully get the Vols back on top. Next year may be the best year to do it, as it seems Florida, Georgia and South Carolina will be down. I am hoping for a Mizzou/UT race for the East, which would be amazing thinking where those two programs were when they played in Neyland 2 years ago.

I definitely think Butch will bring us back but counting wins in Athens and Norman next year is a little much to be counting on this soon, in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong but unreal expectations like these will maybe cause Vol nation to be down on Butch next year if it does not happen. I believe we are looking at 2015 before we begin to turn the corner. We are going to be awfully young next year whick usually brings growing pains. I hope I am wrong but maybe a little patience for another year might be required. GO VOLS!!!
 
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As far as the national championship picture, he's right. Tennessee hasnt been in it since 2001.

I agree with the downfall starting with Fulmer. The program was practically on auto-pilot for 3 or 4 years before the reality hit in 2008. Everyone knew the roster was thin with depth and talent when Fulmer left. People talk about those players who left when Kiffin came in, well, very few went elsewhere and played. Most should have never been signed. Regardless if Tennessee had signed Saban instead of Kiffin, the mess was made and it would have taken him 3 or 4 yrs to rebuilt. That is how long it will take Jones. Lets be patient and give him time. JMO



There has never been a head coach who stayed for years at the same bigtime program who didn't have a down period- eg, Bryant, Woody Hayes, Paterno (before that sick mess was exposed), Bobby Bowden, Darrell Royal, Frank Broyles. Call it human nature, but what happened with CPF happened to every single one of them, only he was shown the door and the above listed were given another chance. Anybody who's been married for 20 years has had rough spots which they overcame or they got divorced. Even ole Spurrier said he left UF because it was time and he was getting stale. Not saying Phil did or didn't deserve another chance, just saying what happened to him happened to all who stayed at the same place.

The hiring of Kiffin, given Hamilton had months to make that hire, was the real killer. Kiffin's recruiting class is/ was nonexistent and his leaving when he did forced Hamilton into making an instant decision when he hired Dooley. I don't agree with saying it would have taken anybody years to get things back together after Fulmer, although I do agree he had taken his foot off the pedal.

The mess Kiffin- and Hamilton- left was the real killer, setting the program back a solid year in recruiting and opening the door for the Dooley hire, which of course, set things back even more. Whatever numerous issues Dooley had, the biggest was the guy was a lousy recruiter.

Had Hamilton hired a Brian Kelly type right after Fulmer things would have rocked along pretty good.

As it stands today, UT is very fortunate to have found Butch; nevertheless 2014 looks like a very tough year where 6 wins is gonna be difficult to achieve.
 
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