Halladay is unreal.

#51
#51
ip is kinda a lame duck stat. it has been decreasing at almost a constant rate since before the 1900s. what do you think pud galvin would do if he didn't avg 32 complete games a year or go the first 6 years of his career making 70+ starts and through 600+ innings. is the league "watered" down...to some extent, but you cannot make that claim with out acknowledging that koufax benefited from the pitchers era, much larger strike zone, higher mound, no slope, less physical balls used per game, bigger parks, always got to pitch to a pitcher....

batters didn't see the numbers the see now. in 64 there were 10 guys that hit 300 or better, 5 guys that hit 30 homers or more, 5 guys with 200 hits or more...

there is no way to really compare or make any judgement, everything is just opinion. all you can really say is koufax was a great pitcher in a pitcher Era and perdro/johnson/maddox/(whoever) was a great pitcher in a hitters Era. they put up similar numbers over a similar time span and that's about all anyone can really saw about it. i gotta head out for a bit. fun to talk baseball with someone though :rock:

Excellent post...the era Koufax pitched in and what Pedro pitched in were completely different.

Overall, I think that Koufax had advantages over any modern day pitcher for all the reasons that you mentioned. Thus, making what Pedro did more impressive. IMO.
 
#52
#52
Excellent post...the era Koufax pitched in and what Pedro pitched in were completely different.

Overall, I think that Koufax had advantages over any modern day pitcher for all the reasons that you mentioned. Thus, making what Pedro did more impressive. IMO.
Exactly. The Fodgers would never have dreamed of holding Koufax's innings down to save him for later.
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#56
#56
I like the kid, I just don't know if he can keep it up all season long...he may be able but I have a lot of faith in Halladay.

i don't see why not. he has pitched 200+ in each of his first full seasons. he is going to be great. he has better velocity then lincecum and more late end movement then halladay. he just needs to learn how to pitch at the majors. in 2014 he will be signing a big big contract.
 
#61
#61
Personally I don't think there's any way he can keep it up, but it'll be fun it watch.
 
#65
#65
8 more shutout innings against a pretty good lineup. No signs of slowing down and I don't see it happening. He's finally able to control all his pitches and they way he hides the ball before delivery is incredible.
 
#69
#69
Only saw the 9th, but that fastball had some serious ride on it tonight.
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#74
#74
Unfortunate pose.

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#75
#75
Possibly the most understated reaction by anyone, ever, after getting the final out.
 

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