Hart should drop the staff budget if...

#26
#26
He is bringing a majority of his staff because they know the scheme, especially on the offense

Read Bams15s thread

They know the signals and how to teach them

Smoother transition for the players if the coaches are on the same page

The new coaches will be learning like the players

It would be a cluster if all the coaches except Jones had to learn the scheme

Let him coach ladies
 
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Maybe he is bringing most of his staff with him because he likes them, thinks they are competent, and trusts them. Could it be possible he wants to embark on the challenge of the SEC with people he is familiar with as opposed to teaching new assistants on the fly?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Hart should drop ticket prices if he continues to facilitate mediocrity. The tickets just aren't worth what they used to be.
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No one knows what the future will bring. I would advise sitting back and enjoying the formation of the staff, recruiting and what the team looks like in the spring. This will be way better than the last transition.

Quit judging before you see the product
 
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golf437 said:
So funny jealous of what someone else makes.
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Did you even read what I said? The point is, that he was given a good size budget for staff so he could have the latitude to hire good coaches away from good teams...even from the NFL ranks if needed.

But if he's not going to do that, and he's just going to take care of his buds, bringing them over...then he should have a smaller budget to work with.
 
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GOVOLS94 said:
Maybe he is bringing most of his staff with him because he likes them, thinks they are competent, and trusts them. Could it be possible he wants to embark on the challenge of the SEC with people he is familiar with as opposed to teaching new assistants on the fly?
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He needs to teach a 4/3 DC how to run a 4/3 defense? :blink:
 
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I actually agree. If he sold Hart on "Best staff in America" and then clearly puts together an average staff; they should be paid accordingly.
 
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EZE said:
And Butch Jones' too. The lunacy of our fanbase is astounding.
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So, when you have an opinion about a coach....even Dooley, it's OK to speak your mind. But when others have a different opinion, they are all dumbarses, eh? Yeah, makes perfect sense. :crazy:
 
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EZE said:
And Butch Jones' too. The lunacy of our fanbase is astounding.
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Mike Hamilton and Derek Dooley thought they could do their jobs, they failed. Hart failed to get his 1st choice, its making it hard to have much faith. Time will tell, but this isn't starting off the greatest.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
My dog could do a better job. Just put a check under the collar with a note and point her in the right direction. Butch Jones is the coach and he'll get his chance to show us if he can recruit and win in the SEC. Dave Hart needs to be fired yesterday.
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Dead wrong imo.



(Bad haircut) Hart needs to be fired two / three days ago.
 
#38
#38
I'll take the attitude of let him bring in who he wants since he will have to sink or swim with them. My biggest concern is that the players will have to live with it also and the Big East didn't have coaches like Saban, Miles, Richt and Spurrier in it.
 
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SCowlsVOL said:
Pretty crazy that he said he would have the best staff assembled. Surely he can't believe that he already had the best staff assembled already.
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This guy may be delusional and/or full of ****. Best program in the country? Best staff in the country? No on both counts, not even by the biggest homer out there.

You have to be honest before you can improve. This is going to be an uphill battle to return UT to prominence and this guy is acting like we are already there.

The best programs and the best staffs in the country prove it in the W/L column.

Editing to add this: I sincerely hope BJ and his staff return UT to the point where we can claim to be "the best" at something...hell anything other than winning the Fulmer cup.
 
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Volfootball55 said:
Mike Hamilton and Derek Dooley thought they could do their jobs, they failed. Hart failed to get his 1st choice, its making it hard to have much faith. Time will tell, but this isn't starting off the greatest.
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Did you marry your first girlfriend?
 
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Just seems to me that if Hart is giving him a Lexus-level staff budget to work with, then he shouldn't be giving him/the team a Toyota Corolla staff.

But if he insists on driving the Corolla (so to speak), then all he gets is a Corolla budget. If CBJ wants to make full use of the staff budget, then he should make a full search for the best possible assistants.
 
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SlipKidVol said:
No one knows what the future will bring. I would advise sitting back and enjoying the formation of the staff, recruiting and what the team looks like in the spring. This will be way better than the last transition.

Quit judging before you see the product
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I am not judging Butch Jones, I am judging the UT administration. CBJ may turn out to be a fantastic hire but it's very questionable. Our administration made no realistic attempt to go after a proven winner but rather go for the risky hire. On the cheap. $3mil is not cheap some might say but it is when you compare it to our rivals. Not being critical of Jones as I don't have anything to criticize him for. Why would I criticize him for taking this job? Any coach on his level would have, well almost any.
 
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Through_The_T said:
To be honest, I agree. Bringing in a majority of Cincy's staff does not indicate that he was serious in saying he would bring in the best staff in America. I am all about loyalty, but we need a homerun DC in the worst way. Let Jancek coach LBs if he has to come along...
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I am upset. He said he would assemble the best staff in America and that was bs lip service. I support him ,but don't p*ss on me and tell me its raining. WTF. This worries me right off the bat.
 
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VolDomination said:
Have you ever heard of team chemistry? Going out and hiring the big name coordinator for your staff will not solve anything if they can't work well together.
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Exactly. Look at how well Clawson and Sunseri worked out? Or how about Chaney's first few years when we all wanted his head?

Find someone who buys into your system, so you don't have a revolving door of coaches like Dooley had.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Did you marry your first girlfriend?
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I thought that was funny in the presser but obviously a very unrealistic comparison. This was a business issue not a relationship with a woman. Those are on opposite spectrums...well should be at least. So that doesn't help in this set of circumstances.
 
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#47
More preteen little girls on this site! I believe in coach and team and will until proven that it is because of incompentency and not until.

Go
Big
Orange!!!
 
#48
#48
Splash names are not always great teachers of the game. In his eyes this is the best fit for the system he is incorporating. As we have all seen in the past big names tend to land you at the doorstep of the ncaa...
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Oh look...someone else that thinks they could easily do Dave Hart's better than him.
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You know what? I damn well could.

I was for hiring Gary Patterson or Brian Kelly instead of Kiffin = Right as Rain.

I was for Kevin Sumlin (who did want the job at that time) instead of Dooley = Right as Rain.

I was for Hart cutting the cord with Dooley LAST year, after the KY fiasco and his subsequent loss of 80% of his staff. Why? Because he was dead in the water at that point. 7 of his 9 assistants knew it, too. = Right as Rain

With Gruden aside, I was for Gary Patterson as the top candidate...again. Was reported to be interested the last 2 times around. Not a single mention of his name this time around. Somebody want to tell me that for $4-4.5mill/yr, he wouldn't take this job, with all the talent it has? = Right as Rain

That's 4-0 against all the Kiffinistas and Doolanders.
 
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