Hate Speech

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#127
Purple Tiger said:
Liberal city means big city.
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No it doesn't....

States with highest homeless populations (per capita not just total):

1. California (With 50% of ALL homeless living unsheltered in the US)
2. NY
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Washington
6. Massachusetts
7. Oregon
8. Colorado
9. Pennsylvania
10. Nevada


Now what do 8 out of these 10 states have in common?
 
#129
#129
GVF said:
I never had the chance to go to Austin. Or never took the chance. It was a four hour drive or so. Well, from Abilene anywhere notable in Texas was atleast 3 hours. Heck, for me that was a trip across GA. 3-4 hours out there barely made the next county. Atleast in 80's Austin I think was still a cool place. Wish I had visited a few towns besides Dallas/FW then. Made a road trip to Long Beach from Abilene, but never hit up Austin or San Antonio. go figure.
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It's Texas. Be thankful you weren't in Amarillo. I'd drive 4 hours just to get out of there.

No offense to those of you from Amarillo. Key word there is from.
 
#130
#130
Liberalism spreads worse than any virus. They leave one place they ruin then go somewhere else and start over. They have there utopias as long as there’s money.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I understand what you are saying. But in the context of this particular conversation, it is to the core about Donald Trump calling COVID-19 the Chinese Flu/Virus. Lets just cut to the chase.It is what it is.

Now, in your opinion, and in the context that he said it and considering the audience, do you think Donald Trump was engaging in hate speech? I know you are not his biggest fan, but just based on the evidence and being fair and just, was Trump wrong for what he said?
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I never said hate but after a while it was purposefully insulting. I think he made his point after the first few times. He continued to drive it into the ground like a kid who just can't let the joke go. His followers took their queues and did the same

If I say something I think is funny (like a joke, nickname, etc) and someone later tells me that affected them negatively then I would stop. A guy like Trump would actually say it more
 
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#132
ClearwaterVol said:
I am firm believer that it is the intent behind the words that matter. Trump meant it when he used it as a dig at the chinese. I didn't find it to be a dig at a race, but rather the government of a country. But there is no question that he meant it to be offensive. Even if it was meant to be racist, I believe he is well within his rights to spew racist rhetoric. There is a solution... vote him out.

For the government to censor the speech of its citizens through passing laws directed at particular words does not pass constitutional muster. You want free speech? Then you have to acknowledge and accept that another man has a right to speech that makes your blood boil. You have to accept that it is his right to claim a platform and espouse ideas that you find repulsive. That is free speech.
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I'll have the flied lice.
 
#133
#133
Purple Tiger said:
Bull$hit. Americans don't want to roof, frame, lay block or farm. If they did, there would not be a need for immigrant labor.
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There were mostly Americans doing most of those jobs in the not too distant past. The influx of illegal workers at reduced wages is what started ousting Americans from those job sectors. I believe that is what began the Great American migration from hard working grounded citizens to unskilled, head in your phone, hide in your room, kids we have today that are not replenishing that work force. Where an American can still get into those sectors and make a good living is in the skilled trades. Companies in Nashville will pay a kid $17 hour to start, WITHOUT electrical certification, and they will certify you on the job, or pay for you to attend Tech school while you are apprenticing. Skilled trades are starving for workers.
 
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GVF said:
There were mostly Americans doing most of those jobs in the not too distant past. The influx of illegal workers at reduced wages is what started ousting Americans from those job sectors. I believe that is what began the Great American migration from hard working grounded citizens to unskilled, head in your phone, hide in your room, kids we have today that are not replenishing that work force. Where an American can still get into those sectors and make a good living is in the skilled trades. Companies in Nashville will pay a kid $17 hour to start, WITHOUT electrical certification, and they will certify you on the job, or pay for you to attend Tech school while you are apprenticing. Skilled trades are starving for workers.
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Yep
 
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GVF said:
There were mostly Americans doing most of those jobs in the not too distant past. The influx of illegal workers at reduced wages is what started ousting Americans from those job sectors. I believe that is what began the Great American migration from hard working grounded citizens to unskilled, head in your phone, hide in your room, kids we have today that are not replenishing that work force. Where an American can still get into those sectors and make a good living is in the skilled trades. Companies in Nashville will pay a kid $17 hour to start, WITHOUT electrical certification, and they will certify you on the job, or pay for you to attend Tech school while you are apprenticing. Skilled trades are starving for workers.
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We have to overcome a few decades of school indoctrination telling us you should be ashamed to work in a trade and if you don't go to college you deserve to be looked down on.
 
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37L1 said:
It's Texas. Be thankful you weren't in Amarillo. I'd drive 4 hours just to get out of there.

No offense to those of you from Amarillo. Key word there is from.
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Up in the panhandle, I can only imagine that those who live there, just basically were born there and never left. There are a lot of desolate places in TX, OK, and the Southwest in general. The Texas panhandle is just a different scenario. Haven't been there, but pics and stuff were enough.

Basically, West Texas that I-20 runs through starts in Abilene, and goes Odessa/Midland, El Paso. Have passed thru those towns. and that was plenty. I literally do not recall anything else significant town wise except those. 8 Hours (550 miles) from Abilene to el Paso, and Odessa/Midland is all I remember.
 
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TheDeeble said:
We have to overcome a few decades of school indoctrination telling us you should be ashamed to work in a trade and if you don't go to college you deserve to be looked down on.
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And those kids that swallowed that indoctrination are working retail and fast food, cause the degree they chose for the money was crap and had no job market that would pay more then retail, nor had the available capacity to hire that many kids in those jobs. They were too lazy for IT degrees, or engineering, or something useful cause they were led to believe that they only needed a piece of paper to get their share of the pie. They were kids that were not academically equipped for college, and many quit with debt to pay, and no degree to support it. and they still swallow that indoctrination. Very few have realized they could go get one of these jobs in need and work themselves into a decent life in a few self-disciplined years.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
No it doesn't....

States with highest homeless populations (per capita not just total):

1. California (With 50% of ALL homeless living unsheltered in the US)
2. NY
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Washington
6. Massachusetts
7. Oregon
8. Colorado
9. Pennsylvania
10. Nevada


Now what do 8 out of these 10 states have in common?
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That they are magnificent models of how to run a state?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I understand what you are saying. But in the context of this particular conversation, it is to the core about Donald Trump calling COVID-19 the Chinese Flu/Virus. Lets just cut to the chase.It is what it is.

Now, in your opinion, and in the context that he said it and considering the audience, do you think Donald Trump was engaging in hate speech? I know you are not his biggest fan, but just based on the evidence and being fair and just, was Trump wrong for what he said?
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Second this. This is really about Donald Trump to these idiots wanting to regulate at the lower levels like they are thumbing their nose to the President. A shoe should be left so far up some of these folks arse the shoelace should look like the end of a tampon string.

Trump is making it clear to China and everyone listening that history must show this started in China. No false spin cycles by the communists and any of the sympathizers to rewrite history. You have to be clear to these people because they will turn the narrative upside down.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Second this. This is really about Donald Trump to these idiots wanting to regulate at the lower levels like they are thumbing their nose to the President. A shoe should be left so far up some of these folks arse the shoelace should look like the end of a tampon string.

Trump is making it clear to China and everyone listening that history must show this started in China. No false spin cycles by the communists and any of the sympathizers to rewrite history. You have to be clear to these people because they will turn the narrative upside down.
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What are your measurements? I want to make sure this brown shirt I'm making you fits like a glove.
 
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