Hate towards others' political beliefs creates a sense of purpose, being

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Sort of matches up with my belief that political activism takes the place of religion for many. Politics promises salvation for the world if you only elect the right leaders and adopt the correct policies. As such it is „easy“ and makes the problem dependent on „other people“ who just won’t vote correctly. Religion (or at least Christianity calls for saving the world one particular soul at a time, beginning with the extremely hard work of coming to grips with your own sinfulness above and before all else. Politics says mankind is fixable with the correct governmental policies. Christianity says that man is unalterably fallen and must seek help from a savior. Only when enough people are dealing withbtheir own sinfulness and trying to live a righteous life can a civil society come about
 
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KB5252 said:
@luthervol
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lol.........It highlights exactly why I HATE trumpism. It's the very thing trumpism was designed to exploit.
Define an enemy that must be stopped. The easiest way to accomplish that? Make yourself the enemy that must be stopped and then sceam and moan about the people who are trying to stop you.

Do you people know nothing about Bannon and Stone?
 
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luthervol said:
lol.........It highlights exactly why I HATE trumpism. It's the very thing trumpism was designed to exploit.
Define an enemy that must be stopped. The easiest way to accomplish that? Make yourself the enemy that must be stopped and then sceam and moan about the people who are trying to stop you.

Do you people know nothing about Bannon and Stone?
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Fug Trumpism! I am currently immersing myself in Bidenism.
 
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luthervol said:
lol.........It highlights exactly why I HATE trumpism. It's the very thing trumpism was designed to exploit.
Define an enemy that must be stopped. The easiest way to accomplish that? Make yourself the enemy that must be stopped and then sceam and moan about the people who are trying to stop you.

Do you people know nothing about Bannon and Stone?
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Except you're every bit the glaring example here. You just can't see it because you're in the same forest.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
But you busybody liberals feel the need to push your agenda and lifestyles on others, and that is where the conflict occurs.
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What lifestyle are those liberals pushing on you? Is it just that you see lifestyles that you disagree with? How do we make lifestyles invisible so that we don't have to see ones we disagree with?
 
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hndog609 said:
I absolutely would hope you're correct. But if we're not having "hate" mean something extreme then what would be the correct terminology? Despise? Loath? Abhor? Or do we do the old high school thing.

"I mean, I like him but I don't LIKE like him." (I mean, I hate those people but I don't HATE hate those people)
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I don't think it means something that extreme.
 
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AshG said:
What lifestyle are those liberals pushing on you? Is it just that you see lifestyles that you disagree with? How do we make lifestyles invisible so that we don't have to see ones we disagree with?
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Get vaxed or find another job.
 
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KB5252 said:
Except you're every bit the glaring example here. You just can't see it because you're in the same forest.
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I understand your confusion, it's just that I hate hatred and cannot tolerate intolerance.
That's part of the evil genius of Bannon/Stone trumpism.
They love to scream "you see, they hate us!", "you see, they can't tolerate us!"
All the while it's because they are intentionally hateful and intolerable.
Diabolical.

I just never dreamed it would be so effective.
They obviously understood the darker elements of the human condition far better than did I.
 
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luthervol said:
I understand your confusion, it's just that I hate hatred and cannot tolerate intolerance.
That's part of the evil genius of Bannon/Stone trumpism.
They love to scream "you see, they hate us!", "you see, they can't tolerate us!"
All the while it's because they are intentionally hateful and intolerable.
Diabolical.

I just never dreamed it would be so effective.
They obviously understood the darker elements of the human condition far better than did I.
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That was exactly the plan. The methodology has been talked about for decades; it's basic psychological manipulation.
 
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luthervol said:
I understand your confusion, it's just that I hate hatred and cannot tolerate intolerance.
That's part of the evil genius of Bannon/Stone trumpism.
They love to scream "you see, they hate us!", "you see, they can't tolerate us!"
All the while it's because they are intentionally hateful and intolerable.
Diabolical.

I just never dreamed it would be so effective.
They obviously understood the darker elements of the human condition far better than did I.
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LOL Russian collusion was opened by the left almost immediately. If you're claiming they pulled the "they hate me" trigger the democrats gave the ammunition. You don't have to like him, hell I didn't. But I found it just the least bit refreshing they did their own dirty work instead of farming it out to proxies.

It's a despicable game they play, they just didn't play it the conventional way. They did nothing any other president hasn't. Hell JFK was just about everything you accuse Trump of. The point is your hatred of one side is interesting and very fitting with that article. Hell it explained my distaste in the past for Hillary, it's easy to let emotion drive your thoughts.
 
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AshG said:
What lifestyle are those liberals pushing on you? Is it just that you see lifestyles that you disagree with? How do we make lifestyles invisible so that we don't have to see ones we disagree with?
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You push vaccines, LGBTQ, feminism, CRT, taxes, etc and push them with the use of govt force.

Let's not act naive here.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You push vaccines, LGBTQ, feminism, CRT, taxes, etc and push them with the use of govt force.

Let's not act naive here.
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Is it worse for some teachers to teach any aspect of CRT or all teachers to be banned from teaching CRT at all? Who is pushing their beliefs on who? Everybody.
 
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AshG said:
New psychology research indicates hatred toward collective entities inspires meaning in life

"The ability of hatred to spur meaning in life may be explained by motivational states associated with a sense of purpose and significance. Purpose has been linked to Behavioural Activation System (BAS) related motivational states, revolving around commitment to concrete or abstract priorities, and “wanting” states that push people toward their goals. The pursuit of ultimate values is associated with these same BAS-processes and may enhance BAS activation due to excitement relating to the transcendent significance of one’s goals. If hate provides a sense of purpose by presenting an enemy that ought to be stopped, those who experience hate could gain a sense of meaning in life through these processes.

Hate may also inspire meaning in life by influencing motivational states linked to coherence and threat. Coherence involves having a predictable view of the world, which is free of threat and uncertainty. The Behavioral Inhibition System (BIS) is activated by threats; for example, a threat to one’s coherent worldview, which may spur internal conflict, as well as feelings of uncertainty and confusion. As such, hate may increase meaning in life by offering a simplistic “us vs. them” view of the world that quells BIS-linked threats."
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This is decades old and perhaps centuries old knowledge. The Soviet Communists and German Nazis founded totalitarian governments based on hatred of others. The entire communist totalitarian approach is built on this scheme of simply define the "enemy" and induce the necessary hatred. BLM and other generally leftist movements use it today.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I believe it but with the caveat that the hate stems from the idea that it's good vs. evil. You hate the other side because they are evil. To oppose them gives you purpose, not necessarily because of hate, but because of the ego boost you get from being on the side of good, vigilant against evil.
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All it takes is a good propaganda campaign to make the other side evil. This is just basically good ole **** stirring.
 
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KB5252 said:
Except you're every bit the glaring example here. You just can't see it because you're in the same forest.
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This is straight up leftist doctrine - induce hatred of competing agendas. Luther is a leftist; although he cloaks his blatant hypocrisy in something often too obtuse to penetrate and see for what it is and further disguises it with radical and meaningless parallels. It was good for the commies and Nazis, and it's good for luther, too.
 
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AshG said:
But when it comes down to it, aren't hate and disgust both simply lower order manifestations our minds use to protect us from what we perceive as danger?

(And I'm super picking nits here for the sake of discussion, not to pick you apart)
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I knew I’d have to qualify this... lol. I have in certain situation placed myself in immediate danger to stop what I considered evil from happening. The harm of children being beaten or abused, a passed out female who was about to be raped and I have stopped assaults. I have a switch in my brain that says “ stop that from happening”. So that’s not a protective mechanism for me.
I have a hard time hating anyone. I don’t like certain people and wouldn’t hang with them but I don’t hate them. That only hurts my spirit.
I learned that lesson after my husband died and his niece took my children’s inheritance. Ruminating only hurts me and God took care of the rest. I’m fine, I let it go and have been happier since. I’m blessed everyday with a better half, a rotten spoiled dog and I can practice my passion of caring for others.
I can only speak for myself and not on some grand psychological scale for others. I don’t really know what’s in the hearts of others until they act on it.
 
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AshG said:
What lifestyle are those liberals pushing on you? Is it just that you see lifestyles that you disagree with? How do we make lifestyles invisible so that we don't have to see ones we disagree with?
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Saw a news story yesterday where a professor at a college was deducting points from a student’s grade if they refused to identify their preferred pronouns on their assignments when submitted. Compelled speech is an abomination
 
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Pepe_Silvia said:
Don't hate ISIS. They're just people with differing political views.
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The difference between a patriot and a terrorist is your perspective. In the case of ISIS, we both hold the same viewpoint that they are a terrorist organization.

To the British, our Founding Fathers were the terrorists.
 
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