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#77
#77
BigPapaVol said:
I think TCU had nowhere remotely close to the second best defense in the country. When have I used state to prop any defense. I go by what I see. OU has no D. UF has D.

I know you're trying hard to convince yourself that OU played a tough schedule and that the O Is as good as it looked against HS defenses, nobody who understands football is buying it. That's why Uf is favored over a team that scored 60 per night.
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BigPapaVol I promise you you will be shocked at the D as well as the O OU puts on the field that night. Being a big football man you shouldn't but you will. Florida had it's hands full covering Julio Jones of Alabama and I assure you we have about 5 they will have just as much trouble covering.:rock::rock:
 
#79
#79
tsooner said:
BigPapaVol I promise you you will be shocked at the D as well as the O OU puts on the field that night. Being a big football man you shouldn't but you will. Florida had it's hands full covering Julio Jones of Alabama and I assure you we have about 5 they will have just as much trouble covering.:rock::rock:
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how'd that work out against TX's sorry defense?
 
#80
#80
BigPapaVol said:
how'd that work out against TX's sorry defense?
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Well BigPapaVol I know you are a big stats man so I'll invite you to check them out. Sam had somewhat of an off game and still threw 5 touchdowns and had almost 400 yards. Ryan Renolds our linebacker doesn't have a season ending injury that game changes quite a bit.

Keep in mind Texas might have a much better defense than you are willing to admit.:rock::rock::rock:
 
#81
#81
tsooner said:
Well BigPapaVol I know you are a big stats man so I'll invite you to check them out. Sam had somewhat of an off game and still threw 5 touchdowns and had almost 400 yards. Ryan Renolds our linebacker doesn't have a season ending injury that game changes quite a bit.

Keep in mind Texas might have a much better defense than you are willing to admit.:rock::rock::rock:
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That's why Tech beat them and Bradford threw 5 TDs.

Bottom line is that OU played one even remotely decent defense all season and had their asses handed to them. That would concern me if I were you. I can see that you have homerism down to a science and it probably won't bother you, but you might think it through a bit before you tunnel back into your bliss.
 
#85
#85
NCGatorBait said:
special teams as well..but please dont bring facts into this argument
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Here is a fact for you and a great one. How many even good offenses have you faced this year? I'll downgrade that to fair so you won't have to stretch it too far. I can't even find one on my own.:rock::rock:
 
#86
#86
tsooner said:
Here is a fact for you and a great one. How many even good offenses have you faced this year? I'll downgrade that to fair so you won't have to stretch it too far. I can't even find one on my own.:rock::rock:
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UGA would have looked like the early 90s Cowboys in the Big 12.
 
#87
#87
BigPapaVol said:
That's why Tech beat them and Bradford threw 5 TDs.

Bottom line is that OU played one even remotely decent defense all season and had their asses handed to them. That would concern me if I were you. I can see that you have homerism down to a science and it probably won't bother you, but you might think it through a bit before you tunnel back into your bliss.
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Tech beat Texas with their #4 in the country offense. About 25 spots higher ranked than any SEC offense.:rock::rock:

Please be careful with the homer comments for they fit you very well.:rock:
 
#89
#89
tsooner said:
Tech beat Texas with their #4 in the country offense. About 25 spots higher ranked than any SEC offense.:rock::rock:

Please be careful with the homer comments for they fit you very well.:rock:
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who am I a homer for? Just because I can objectively, as a third party, tell you that the offenses of the Big 12 are almost purely a function of the sorry defenses I'm a homer.

by the by, I'm for OU in the football game if that helps you understand a bit better where I'm coming from.

you be careful with the smileys, for they fit your communication style well.
 
#90
#90
tsooner said:
LMAO....now come on and be serious. Georgia would have been fighting it out for 4th or 5th in the Big 12 south. Dear Gawd and you called me a homer.:):)
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I hate UGA with a passion, but they would have murdered the Big 12. The level of talent across the board is simply higher than that in the big 12. There is almost no defensive talent in the entire conference.
 
#91
#91
BigPapaVol said:
who am I a homer for? Just because I can objectively, as a third party, tell you that the offenses of the Big 12 are almost purely a function of the sorry defenses I'm a homer.

by the by, I'm for OU in the football game if that helps you understand a bit better where I'm coming from.

you be careful with the smileys, for they fit your communication style well.
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Oh come onnnnnnnnnn. You say the defensives numbers in the SEC has nothing to do with the poor offenses in the SEC but the GREAT Big 12 numbers are all results of no defence in the Big 12. You can't have it both ways.

All I am trying to do with these icons my man is to get you rocking here with me.:rock::rock::rock:
 
#92
#92
tsooner said:
Oh come onnnnnnnnnn. You say the defensives numbers in the SEC has nothing to do with the poor offenses in the SEC but the GREAT Big 12 numbers are all results of no defence in the Big 12. You can't have it both ways.

All I am trying to do with these icons my man is to get you rocking here with me.:rock::rock::rock:
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you cannot pretend there isn't offensive talent in the SEC. The QB's sucked and that was a problem, but there is more offensive talent at UGA and UF than Tech or Texas even considered having. It's not really very close. Texas did what they did with no ability to run the football at all. You haul that kind of game up against a decent defense and it gets murdered. One dimensional teams get killed.

I'm not sure there is any defensive talent in the Big 12 whatsoever.
 
#93
#93
BigPapaVol said:
I hate UGA with a passion, but they would have murdered the Big 12. The level of talent across the board is simply higher than that in the big 12. There is almost no defensive talent in the entire conference.
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OMG you have just been SEC brainwashed. I'm thinking you listen to far to many talk radio shows in this area. Great athletes are all over the country in every conference.:rock:

Come on BigpapaVol.......I have to say that comment really makes me question you watch football. Please tell me you were joking and left out the smiley....I really want to be able to respect your opinion but that is reallly setting you back.:no::no:
 
#94
#94
tsooner said:
OMG you have just been SEC brainwashed. I'm thinking you listen to far to many talk radio shows in this area. Great athletes are all over the country in every conference.:rock:

Come on BigpapaVol.......I have to say that comment really makes me question you watch football. Please tell me you were joking and left out the smiley....I really want to be able to respect your opinion but that is reallly setting you back.:no::no:
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I listen to no talk radio whatsoever. Never. None. Nada. Zilch.

How many players from Texas Tech will play at the next level? They lost 1 game.

Great athletes are all over the country. Great football players are not playing defense in the Big 12. It's that simple. It's embarrassing. I thought the SEC defenses were the worst of my life last season, but this year's big 12 made them look beastly by comparison.

I'm not trying to talk up the SEC. I'm aware that it was awful this season. I'm aware that the Big 12 had solid college QBs this season. That doesn't change that there wasn't a single respectable defense in the entire conference.
 
#95
#95
tsooner said:
Here is a fact for you and a great one. How many even good offenses have you faced this year? I'll downgrade that to fair so you won't have to stretch it too far. I can't even find one on my own.:rock::rock:
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Guess after the game UF will have faced no good offenses all yr then.:hmm:
 
#96
#96
BigPapaVol said:
you cannot pretend there isn't offensive talent in the SEC. The QB's sucked and that was a problem, but there is more offensive talent at UGA and UF than Tech or Texas even considered having. It's not really very close. Texas did what they did with no ability to run the football at all. You haul that kind of game up against a decent defense and it gets murdered. One dimensional teams get killed.

I'm not sure there is any defensive talent in the Big 12 whatsoever.
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OMG....most the best running backs are in the Big 12.
All most all the great receivers as well. Most of the great quarterbacks....same story.....but yet in your opinion we have nothing?:pinch::pinch:

I have to go for a bit my friend....please call in Nurse Rachet and get your meds from her....and spend some alone time with your favorite coloring book and I'll be back to help you later. I promise as your new friend not to give up on you.:rock::rock:
 
#98
#98
tsooner said:
OMG....most the best running backs are in the Big 12.
All most all the great receivers as well. Most of the great quarterbacks....same story.....but yet in your opinion we have nothing?:pinch::pinch:

I have to go for a bit my friend....please call in Nurse Rachet and get your meds from her....and spend some alone time with your favorite coloring book and I'll be back to help you later. I promise as your new friend not to give up on you.:rock::rock:
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again, which of those RBs, QBs and WRs are going to play at the next level? There isn't a 1st round QB in the conference. Crabtree, Bryant and Maclin will the top players from the conference and they average about 5-8 touches per game each.

The SEC will put as many top offensive players in the league as will the Big 12, but will put about 500 more defenders up there.
 
#99
#99
tsooner said:
Biggest difference you will see is I will be back here when you get your education January 8. I suspect you won't be.:)
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ummm..i know you're new here..but if you look under my name you will see 5 stars..each star is for one yr posting here...now do you think Ill be back? Question is..will you?
 
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