Hendon Hooker to the Titans?

[loservol]

A mid-round pick for Hooker would be smarter than throwing the #1 away on Cam Ward. The Titans will never learn. The fact alone that no one wants to move up should make them take caution.

 

[Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va]

Titans are not a serious organization and are only concerned with making as much money off of a mediocre product as they can. They are a small market team that isn't willing to invest in being anything more than a potential playoff berth. The whole new stadium is just a cash grab at the taxpayer's expense. $2.3 billion in our money is going into a new dome for a team that struggles to get to .500 in the weakest division in the sport.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Titans are not a serious organization and are only concerned with making as much money off of a mediocre product as they can. They are a small market team that isn't willing to invest in being anything more than a potential playoff berth. The whole new stadium is just a cash grab at the taxpayer's expense. $2.3 billion in our money is going into a new dome for a team that struggles to get to .500 in the weakest division in the sport.

Disagree with most of what you're saying here. Market size has no impact with team success in NFL. See Pittsburgh, KC, and Green Bay. In this case, you have an owner who has never had to work a day in her life and has largely surrounded herself with people who cant properly evaluate talent. Its not that she doesnt want to run the football side properly, she just doesnt know how....

Agree on the stadium. The ROI for the state will be negative...

 

[LAVol1]

A mid-round pick for Hooker would be smarter than throwing the #1 away on Cam Ward. The Titans will never learn. The fact alone that no one wants to move up should make them take caution.

If you want to be an elite NFL team, you have to have an elite QB. To get an elite QB, you have to take a calculated chance in the draft or get really lucky. Ward or Sanders could turn out to be elite--or they could be busts. But, you have to take that chance. If you want to hedge your bet, you take Ward or Sanders, draft OL with your next couple of picks, then trade for Hooker with a low round or future draft pick.

 

[loservol]

Titans are not a serious organization and are only concerned with making as much money off of a mediocre product as they can. They are a small market team that isn't willing to invest in being anything more than a potential playoff berth. The whole new stadium is just a cash grab at the taxpayer's expense. $2.3 billion in our money is going into a new dome for a team that struggles to get to .500 in the weakest division in the sport.

Because of money involved, it should have been on a ballot so taxpayers would have had a say in how their money is spent. In all honesty, I think the NFL considers TN a lost cause and could care less if they have a franchise in Nashville

 

[loservol]

If you want to be an elite NFL team, you have to have an elite QB. To get an elite QB, you have to take a calculated chance in the draft or get really lucky. Ward or Sanders could turn out to be elite--or they could be busts. But, you have to take that chance. If you want to hedge your bet, you take Ward or Sanders, draft OL with your next couple of picks, then trade for Hooker with a low round or future draft pick.

They have taken a calculated risks 4 times now and they have all ended in disaster. Maybe time to consider a different approach. If none of the other franchises are interested in trading up for Ward, that should be a major warning sign.

Smart move, would be to wait a year and see if Arch Manning will be the next big thing.

 

[Skullbone]

The Titans aren't "avoiding" Tennessee players, they've drafted tons of them.

That is a terrible reason, lol. Becoming the NFL Vols won't make them any money if they suck

Well, I disagree. Firstly, they suck already and it's not making any money NOW. Secondly, being the NFL Vols would imo bring them more money both when they suck and when they're good because people might actually give a damn around here. Lastly, no one proposed ONLY having former Vols. It's not all or nothing. I'm not suggesting choosing crappy players over good ones just because they're from TN. I'm saying it would behoove them to get MORE former Vols when the good ones at positions of need are available. I don't understand how anyone here could be against that.

 

[NashVol11]

Well, I disagree. Firstly, they suck already and it's not making any money NOW. Secondly, being the NFL Vols would imo bring them more money both when they suck and when they're good because people might actually give a damn around here. Lastly, no one proposed ONLY having former Vols. It's not all or nothing. I'm not suggesting choosing crappy players over good ones just because they're from TN. I'm saying it would behoove them to get MORE former Vols when the good ones at positions of need are available. I don't understand how anyone here could be against that.

It behooves them to get the best players possible. More Tennessee players isn't really related to that and doesn't help them unless those Tennessee players are the best players possible, which they are already targeting. They also have multiple Vols right now and it doesn't seem to make a difference to the people complaining

 

[TheVolsFrog]

If you want to be an elite NFL team, you have to have an elite QB. To get an elite QB, you have to take a calculated chance in the draft or get really lucky. Ward or Sanders could turn out to be elite--or they could be busts. But, you have to take that chance. If you want to hedge your bet, you take Ward or Sanders, draft OL with your next couple of picks, then trade for Hooker with a low round or future draft pick.

Titans got the #1 pick and need a QB. The way it's setup now. I'm drafting a QB unless some gives a crazy offer. Most other teams already have a QB except NYG and sitting at 3 they would take Ward or Sanders depending on which TN took. There is no guarantee you wind up this high after this season. Titans should've got Dobbs, Big Ben said he was good with helping him game plan film. That's what your rookie QB needed was someone that was willing to mentor and teach your rookie, not a guy that's trying to take your spot. Not sure Hooker is the guy I'd want backing up my rookie QB, not a lot of NFL playing time

 

[TheVolsFrog]

They have taken a calculated risks 4 times now and they have all ended in disaster. Maybe time to consider a different approach. If none of the other franchises are interested in trading up for Ward, that should be a major warning sign.

Smart move, would be to wait a year and see if Arch Manning will be the next big thing.

You don't get to say, I'm going to defer my #1 draft pick until next year. No way of knowing if you get the #1 pick next year or not.
You got a coach that needs to win now so he's not going to tank the season or may pull a Lovie. Who is to say the Manning group doesn't want Arch in TN pulls an Eli to force him to some place else.

 

[LAVol1]

Not sure Hooker is the guy I'd want backing up my rookie QB, not a lot of NFL playing time

Titans should not be looking for a backup. You look for a backup when you have a really good starter. They should be looking for an elite starter. By drafting Cam and trading for Hooker, you have two potential high-performance starters. Neither may pan out, but you have to try something to fill that position. Staying with Levis as your future is insanity. But then, so was drafting him.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Titans should not be looking for a backup. You look for a backup when you have a really good starter. They should be looking for an elite starter. By drafting Cam and trading for Hooker, you have two potential high-performance starters. Neither may pan out, but you have to try something to fill that position. Staying with Levis as your future is insanity. But then, so was drafting him.

I'm just saying I thin if you're sold on Ward you'd like you back up be a mentor more so than a guy that's gunning for your spot.

I was ok with the Titans not drafting Hooker. I get it, age, coming off an ACL and played in what would be called a non pro offense.
I thought trading up and picking Levis in the 2nd round was balls on the wall crazy. I think when Houston picked Stoud the Titans didn't have a backup game plan
I did think picking Trey late was worth the risk when they had the chance would've been a good pick, cheap

 

[LaagerVol]

They have taken a calculated risks 4 times now and they have all ended in disaster. Maybe time to consider a different approach. If none of the other franchises are interested in trading up for Ward, that should be a major warning sign.

Smart move, would be to wait a year and see if Arch Manning will be the next big thing.

Ah yes, wait for Arch, who has accomplished exactly zero to this point.

I don’t know about Cam Ward, seems like another Johnny Manziel to me from a football standpoint, and i would trade down this year if possible. But not so I could wait for Arch

 

[LaagerVol]

Well, I disagree. Firstly, they suck already and it's not making any money NOW. Secondly, being the NFL Vols would imo bring them more money both when they suck and when they're good because people might actually give a damn around here. Lastly, no one proposed ONLY having former Vols. It's not all or nothing. I'm not suggesting choosing crappy players over good ones just because they're from TN. I'm saying it would behoove them to get MORE former Vols when the good ones at positions of need are available. I don't understand how anyone here could be against that.

They 100% are making money now. I am all for them drafting and signing VFLs when possible, but People don’t buy season tickets to play watch former Vols play in the NFL. They want to see their team win, which should be the main priority, over where the players went to school

 

[LaagerVol]

Titans should not be looking for a backup. You look for a backup when you have a really good starter. They should be looking for an elite starter. By drafting Cam and trading for Hooker, you have two potential high-performance starters. Neither may pan out, but you have to try something to fill that position. Staying with Levis as your future is insanity. But then, so was drafting him.

They aren’t staying with Levis as the future. No one has even suggested that.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Titans should not be looking for a backup. You look for a backup when you have a really good starter. They should be looking for an elite starter. By drafting Cam and trading for Hooker, you have two potential high-performance starters. Neither may pan out, but you have to try something to fill that position. Staying with Levis as your future is insanity. But then, so was drafting him.

Again, why would you trade for a guy who was beat out by a retired high school coach for the #2 job in Detroit?

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

Ah yes, wait for Arch, who has accomplished exactly zero to this point.

I don’t know about Cam Ward, seems like another Johnny Manziel to me from a football standpoint, and i would trade down this year if possible. But not so I could wait for Arch

Generally Mannings are pretty good bets. I’d be willing to roll the dice on one.

 

[TheVolsFrog]

Again, why would you trade for a guy who was beat out by a retired high school coach for the #2 job in Detroit?

I think Detroit wanted to have someone with playing experience since they thought they had a good chance at a Super Bowl run but yeah it sure didn't look good for Hooker when they did that.

 

[FranklinVFL]

Ah yes, wait for Arch, who has accomplished exactly zero to this point.

I don’t know about Cam Ward, seems like another Johnny Manziel to me from a football standpoint, and i would trade down this year if possible. But not so I could wait for Arch

I would trade down as well...the Titans have so many holes that need filling on both sides of the ball that 1 QB, no matter how elite, changes the direction of the team. I doubt Peyton or Brady would have been able to get this team, as is, to the playoffs....just need to take the next two years to accumulate draft picks and fill the holes and get a QB next year...because they are not a playoff team next year and will still have a reasonably high draft slot.

Of course, that being said, Titans can't run a draft worth crap...half the time I do not know what they are thinking with who they draft.

 

[LaagerVol]

I would trade down as well...the Titans have so many holes that need filling on both sides of the ball that 1 QB, no matter how elite, changes the direction of the team. I doubt Peyton or Brady would have been able to get this team, as is, to the playoffs....just need to take the next two years to accumulate draft picks and fill the holes and get a QB next year...because they are not a playoff team next year and will still have a reasonably high draft slot.

Of course, that being said, Titans can't run a draft worth crap...half the time I do not know what they are thinking with who they draft.

I don’t have a lot of confidence in them getting it right, but maybe the new GM has a clue. Depends how much control Brinker has. Not a fan of him so far.